Sick of people on weight loss jabs saying you still have to “put in the work” with wl jabs

Copium.

Ah so you’re trying to lose weight the natural way and are salty that people are using WLI and finding it easier than you.

Now where did the idea that you can’t stay on them for life come from? Extensive research?

Ah, so that's what motivates you to tell people you've never met that they can't possibly remain for a life on a drug that can be prescribed for life.

I've lost 2 stone this year on slimming world, one sister has lost 5 stone on wli but not changing her diet other than eating less quantities while my other sister used wli, ate regardless of not feeling hungry and lost nothing. I'd say it helps you eat LESS but ideally I'd want to do alongside a long term eating plan change so once the wli stop your habits have also changed

OP, I lost 2.5 stone through my own efforts and then ran out of steam. So I tried Mounjaro and it helped me lose another 2 stone. It was great. All that food noise was gone. If you want to try it, ignore the naysayers and give it a go.

I've took them, they really aren't a miracle worker and you don't lose that much if you don't put the work in. Maybe for some it works like magic with barely any effort but not always.

It MUST be easier on the WL jabs else why do people pay for them??

OP, I’m shocked by the ridiculous responses and by people feeling offended by what you have said. I would have thought it was common sense that the medication specifically does something to make people eat a lot less, otherwise why take it in the first place if it only has a negligible effect on the body?

In my case, WL jabs worked brilliantly. I started off with a BMI of 31 and now I have a BMI of 21. In the beginning, I just ate what I normally would eat, which was healthy enough but it also included junk food. The difference was that I was eating a lot less of it. I eventually improved my diet to include more protein and fibre because I felt a little weak from muscle loss. No matter what I ate, I still kept on losing weight. I still ate all my favourite junk foods around the time of my period and still kept on losing weight because the medication improved my insulin sensitivity.

Those who say that you still need to diet and exercise are probably morbidly obese and need to lose tons of weight. They’re probably miffed at losing slowly and having a long way to go and having to increase their dosage because the lower doses don’t work on them anymore.

You sound like the ideal patient who can remain on the lowest dose and still lose lots of weight. I stayed on 5mg of MJ and lost 30% of my starting weight.

Go for it if you ever get the chance. Or stay on your current weight and wait for these drugs to become cheaper and come out in pill form.

I’m C, trying to lose weight the natural way, calm down love.

I am the same. I think about food all the time. I saw the word Yo Yo in your post, and immediately started craving for mint chocolate biscuits. It is not fair.

I take it that’s your opinion as a medical professional?

Or are you just Maureen from accounts who’s either a) overweight but can’t afford WLI or b) skinny and can’t bear the thought of the awful fatties losing weight.

I dont see why. I'm prescribed it as a diabetic. They haven't taken me off other diabetic medicine I've been on since 2000.

Could you provide your expert medical opinion as to why?

Well, aren’t you a sweetheart. Can’t you just be happy for them?

Also, why do you think you’re entitled to know what medications other people are taking?

Yeah, staying on jabs forever will be great for your health… of course you will eventually need to come off them.

"Absolutely nuts how people care more about losing weight than they do about getting cancer"

You can care about both. Obesity is a risk factor for many forms of cancer. It also causes or contributes to many other diseases, some of which are fatal.

For SOME people they take away your appetite - didn't do it for me, didn't reduce food noise or cravings, didn't make it much easier to make healthier choices, in no way stopped me wanting to eat.

I wish WLI worked for me like they work for some lucky people, but it's just not how it went.

Can you link any sources to back this up please?

Read your replies OP but not the full thread. So apologies if this has already been said but maybe the reason your friends are telling you this is that you’ve shown them you don’t fully understand how these meds work. You DO have to put in the work, plodding weight loss is by far the norm. And appetite suppression is variable and depends on the level and type of metabolic disease that caused the overweight or obesity in the first place.

Unless you’re four foot nothing, no reputable doctor will prescribe this for a 20lb loss.

Finally, your language is a bit judgey. People eat, they don’t “shovel”. Subtext here is that you think overweight/obesity is caused by greed and/or unhealthy diets. Not true. Metabolic disease causes it, and WLI treat metabolic disease.

If you want appetite suppression, score some speed.

Why do you care what other people think about the weight loss jabs? If you think they work a a certain way then good for you.But they don't work the same for everyone.In fact, they didn't work at all for me. As you have no practical concept of them really other than what you've read I don't know why you would care whether some people say you still need to have will power or not.

Ive lost 2 stone no effort whatsoever. I'm now at a healthy weight which im maintaining again no effort whatsoever. J dont live in anyone else's head so can't speak for them but me yes its effortless just as well as any effort I make to eat less is doomed to failure.

I have done 2 stone on my own with 800Fast and 2 stone on MJ.
I love MJ, I think it is a super drug, if I can be on it for life I would.

I can still eat and I do, I still get hungry but rarely starving, or that feeling of cold and desperately need to eat everything in sight.

I managed to go out on Sat eat and drink. What it has done is made me feel fuller for longer; helped me make sensible choices (still have a sweet tooth so this might be phycological). More importantly I ache a lot less, I eat really well. Limit carbs especially bread. I am still putting the effort in. I am only on 5mg, weight loss has stalled but I have had birthday parties, gourmet meals out, holidays etc. What it has done is got me back on track, so I haven't gained. I might go up to get the last stone off. But I am fairly relaxed about it. I might go up to 7.5 in the new year.

I have energy, I do weights 5 times a week. I feel amazing. I think I look amazing; I am in my sixties and have not been this slim in 30 years! I think exercise is key with it. If you can afford it go on it. We are all different but I have not had any side effects.

You still have to do the exercising, you still have to learn more healthy habits and cook healthier food. Doesn't sound like you need them though, all that burning resentment will fuel the old metabolism.

I am being investigated for gallstones that have probably precipitated by WLI, and my GP was crystal clear that she was supportive of me proceeding with caution.

I have absolutely no dog in this fight, as a person who is significantly underweight (autistic) and is on a medication that's supposed to increase my appetite (mirtazipine). But I don't really understand the objections.

Clearly, WLI make it easier for people to stick to a calorie deficit. I don't think anyone denies this. Otherwise what would be the point of them? No-one is paying hundreds of pounds per month for a medication that doesn't make it easier to stick to a calorie deficit, which is all weight loss comes down to. It seems to me that this is excellent news. Just like when any other medication is invented that helps a lot of people with a significant problem. People who are taking it are either prescribed by the NHS, in which case they must be in a state of really significant poor health, and no more to be envied than I would envy a person with alcoholism being prescribed antabuse. OR, they're paying for it. Quite a lot of money. You're angry that other people have an easier method of doing something that's hard for you? Well, you have the same options to get it as anyone else does - really significant health problems to get prescribed, or...pay money. In which case....you're angry that other people have more disposable income, I guess? That's...not going to be productive.

(Edited because I wrote WLS instead of WLI, wrong abbreviation)