Sick of people on weight loss jabs saying you still have to “put in the work” with wl jabs

Personally I'd take natural weight loss over the expense, side effects and potential longer term health risks of jabs all day long. It's by far the easier option if you can do it imo. Which luckily, like you, I could.
I genuinely don't get all this bickering and my weight loss 'journey' was harder than yours competitive nonsense. Weight loss is personal. What other people are doing has no impact on your weight or life, and vice versa.
I think people would do a lot better to concentrate on their own bodies and choices and stop having conversations about weight loss that annoy them.

@MinnilisciousI'm with you. I lost 20lbs with barely no effort on MJ. I was within 3lbs of target when the price went up. I’m eating no differently now without it yet the 3lbs won’t go. There’s something in MJ that melts fat 😂😂

lol, right?

Taking a medication prescribed for obesity? NO WAY

Putting yourself at risk (no doubt in turkey) and risking your children growing up without a mum? Fine

I do think each to their own having used them for 6 weeks and then lost reasonably well without - I’m not convinced myself That being suppressed to the level of eating like a toddler is very good for you in the long term in the cases of those people who do eat like this because of suppression - although I appreciate it will help with any ‘weigh related’ health issues . in my case as I never got above 2.5 that wasn’t the case. I think it’s more about changing your habits and ideally finding the level that works ‘for you’ - yes it’s great for weight loss to think ‘I can’t eat much’ but can you sustain that long term? Unless you plan on taking forever more of course. In my case mounjaro gave me a very good kick start , as although I could have probably eaten around the same if a little less , spending so much focussed me and I changed to Greek yoghurt and berries or ham and hard boiled eggs for breakfast, soup and a banana or a John west fish lunch grabber type thing at lunch and a slightly smaller portion of something home made and protein based at night, chicken stroganoff with green beans and cauliflower rice etc

before I would have had a ham and cheese toastie for breakfast, or a croissant and some toast, sandwich plus a banana and maybe crisps at lunch and a bigger dinner of the same with ‘proper rice’ ( and lots of it)

I also massively upped water, green tea and only drink americanos with oat milk once a day - and I don’t snack at all. No cakes, no biscuits, no crisps

I have lost weight, haven’t lost muscle or hair - and I’m 63 - I had convinced myself I couldn’t lose weight and was probably only eating around 1600 to 1800 cals a day - sadly I needed to go lower, quite a bit lower and it was about finding out what I could eat to regularly keep me around 1200 to 1400 cals a day( maybe 1800 at weekend to allow for some wine )

Same. I weigh and log all of my food. Exercise 5x per week (yoga, Pilates, HIIT, 2x weight training). I’m fighting menopausal weight gain and I am always hungry and always thinking about food. I’ve tried Juniper and another site, but I don’t qualify.

Not Egyptian mummy wrappings? I’m disappointed.

So people taking prescribed medication to lower their weight, improve their diabetes, cancer, heart risk and ease pressure on joints - cheating and open for judgement and criticism for not trying hard enough

Having general anaesthetic for a purely cosmetic procedure with no health benefits whatsoever- totally fine.

Love that for you.

Yep!

This isn't the reason for all the nonsense around them, but it's the reason for some of it. Happened to me just a few posts ago, with someone grandly assuring me I couldn't possibly be on them for life. No reason was offered, obviously, but then it subsequently became clear that it was simply her not wanting it to be possible.

But the best way to deal with this sort of thing is to laugh at it.

She means a tummy tuck and boob job

Here for the intrigue of a "mummy makeover" ...
perhaps you should do the work yourself OP, fairly sure you can paint your own nails/ cut your own hair/ make your own clothes.
You should really do it the "proper" way so you can remain on your high horse.

Oh @Dissappearedupmyownarsethrough losing all the weight on MJ I have constantly counted calories, watched what I eat and exercised! For the reason I posted above. If you don’t do those things then what is the point - it’s a tool to help you improve your health and for me that is gaining an understanding of nutrition and improving my fitness too.

For some. Not for me. I have chosen a sustainable level. For the first 3 ish stone I lost around 2lb a week, occasionally more. Now I am losing around 0.5-1lb a week and have been at that rate for months now. Losing the first 4 stone wasn’t even noticeable to others so when they did see it of course they tho it hit it had been fast, but I had actually been working at it for bloody ages

I’ve lost 9 stone on MJ. I’m 41, I’ve struggled my entire life with it. Lost 6 stone through lockdown and put it back on. The last year I’ve constantly been thinking about food on MJ - but in a completely different way. I’m training for ultra marathons and running 5 times a week - I have to plan food, think about fuelling constantly. What I’m eating day to day, what calorie requirements I have today and the quality of those calories.
but yes - it made losing the weight a fuck ton easier FOR ME. That’s sort of the point! Financially it isn’t cheap, but then the regular takeaways and wine/shit food I was wasting money on wasn’t either.
I’ve done it the hard way for decades. I’ll take an easier route happily!

Genuinely what are you sick of? You lost weight and it was a struggle? You would take WLI if they weren’t so expensive?

You say you don’t have an issue with them but clearly you want some special badge to separate yourself from the ‘cheaters’

very defensive comments imo

Right exactly. Isn’t it great that the percentage of the population who have always been unable to lose weight, are now succeeding? :)

That's nonsense.

Friend of mine is on them. At dinner she ate one spoon of rice and ate the falafel out of the middle of her wrap and left the rest. I polished all of mine off and could have eaten more.

Before the jabs she would have eaten the lot and got dessert. The jabs do the work for you to the extent she couldnt eat half of what was on her plate.

All I know is I’ve overheard obese mums at school discussing using them and now they’re actually losing shed loads of weight very rapidly. Same for celebs like Gemma Collins who has never ever been able to lose weight ‘naturally’. They must be an easy fix in that sense, the weight seems to fly off everyone in no time at all.

At what point did my post say it was effortless??
It's far easier to use weight loss injections rather than try and lose weight the traditional way of diet and exercise alone - simple as that. If it wasn't, they wouldnt be in such high demand and nobody would use them! Nobody actually likes to count calories, watch what they eat, exercise etc - its shit and hard bloody work
Why on earth would I be bitter? If i wanted to use weight loss injections I could just go and pay for them like most people have done if they decide that this is the route for them.

Yeah, you do OP. They don’t melt fat. They don’t disappear calories from food or alcohol.
They do require a complete lifestyle and habit change… don’t know why YOU’RE so bothered though. If you have found methods that work - good for you.
If others are using different methods, good for them .

Yep it's bullshit - tied up in fat phobia and ableism. There is so much of a moral judgement attached to being overweight, it's almost like losing weight has to feel like punishment - you do the crime, you do the time.

Never mind that if you do insist on looking at it like a competition, the playing field is not at all level. My female partner has always eaten way more than me, sometimes double. I give her huge portions of pasta as it's impossible to fill her up, and she has always been naturally slim. We do roughly the same amount of exercise too. I take after my mum, who has maintained her weight since I've been alive by basically eating one meal a day.

Definitely seems like an easy head start.
I lost the weight by myself because I couldn't afford the jabs 😂 if I could have I would have

Of course it’s easier, OP. If it wasn’t then those on the injections would have lost weight without them.

But I also understand why people on WLJ feel the need to say it’s not and some have probably even convinced themselves it isn’t. There is so much false morality and judgement around weight and weight loss imposed by society, it’s probably a coping mechanism in the face of years of being treated poorly for being overweight. So I’d just let that chat wash over me.

As so many other posters have said, it doesn't have to be a competition. There are no medals for losing weight the hardest and most hellish way.

All diets work, because you are eating less regardless of whether it is paleo, atkins, weight watchers, slimplan or WLI. The real work is actually addressing all the causes of what drove you to put too much food in your mouth in the first place. For so many of us there are multiple reasons and if you don't sort that out, then the pounds will go back on. @Plind maybe that is what people mean when they say "you still have to put the work in".

I don’t understand the whole obsession people not on them with folks who are on them. And then the whole bingo card, Sharon osbourne, you will regain it if you stop, and no no no don’t stay on for life, it’s so ageing, what about your pancreas, and now the bizzare it’s easy.

Effortless weightloss is the utopia. The dream. Imagine being the person who writes that like it’s a bad thing. 👀

the fact remains for many it’s not effortless. You do need to do the work, but of course doing that work is much easier and achievable when on the meds. It’s the whole point. Otherwise why would anyone take them.

But that’s nonsense, and just comes across as bitter. You can’t just eat whay you want and lose weight, the vast majority of people are actively dieting, counting cals, look at any thread on it. People have to focus on macros, ensure they eat protein, and where feasible work out. To ensure they lose fat and not muscle. Of course it’s easier, that’s the whole point, but that doesn’t mean it’s effortless and the fat melts off. There is a whole spectrum between hard and effortless.