Sick of people on weight loss jabs saying you still have to “put in the work” with wl jabs

I agree. I've lost 2 stone very easily in a year. I don't have to put work in because the way it makes me feel I just don't want as much food anymore. It doesn't even cross my mind to overeat. I don't think much about it at all.

That's lovely to hear. Well done. :)

To be honest I do agree with you @Plind

I do feel like people on weight loss injections can be strangely defensive. It’s hypocritical cause you get people in that camp adamant that their excess weight can’t be addressed through diet/exercise alone (ie hatred of the phrase “eat less, move more”); whilst simultaneously saying “you have to put the work in” - as if to admit that actually, diet & exercise is important after all.

Well, luckily forcing people to take medication they don’t want to isn’t legal!

Actually, no. For some people it suppresses appetite. I have deliberately under-dosed so I still have to deal with hunger and cravings, so I can off them one day. The reason I struggle is that binge eating is a symptom of anxiety - not because I just shove food in my mouth because I like the taste. When I binge I don't even taste the food anyway, it's mechanical. I have had mental space to completely change my diet and general lifestyle. I have worked fucking hard. So fuck you.

I think it comes from the sort of pilgrims progress idea that in order for something to be meaningful and moral it needs to involve some sort of work and / or sacrifice. Which I guess is fine if you’re an Olympic athlete or even a professional in any capacity but for day to day life (weight loss comes under that category) it leaves me largely baffled

If you are an emotional eater, or boredom eater, then you overeat for reasons beyond hunger, so appetite suppressant won't prevent you from overeating. The jabs might remove food noise, but you'll still be sat there going "hmmm I really fancy munching some crisps" because you enjoy the sensation or the endorphins that come after eating.

Weight loss is a minefield. I'm not going to take GLP-1s myself until there's a bit more data on long term effects, but I don't begrudge anyone for doing so. Mind your own journey, look after your own body, and leave others to do the same.

In my experience you do still have to put the work in though. Yes I cannot eat as much as I did before, but I can still pack away chocolate and crisps, more than my body needs which means if I don't change my diet I won't lose weight.

I may not get as physically hungry as I used to, but I still crave the comfort of a cup of tea with a chocolate bar, and because I can only eat such a small amount to lose weight I can't have the chocolate bar even if I wanted to because it would push me over my calories deficit.

Well done on your loss!

Yes, I feel so much better. I used to be embarrassed to even leave the house TBH, so now that I'm a size 10, I'm much more confident just living life. I can also exercise more, which is definitely a plus too!

I was never able to lose more than 3 stone without reverting back to bad habits again because I always just felt so awful, shaky and ravenous, even if I was eating enough calories. That didn't happen with Mounjaro, so I'm thinking it fixed whatever was up with my hormones.

I'm with you OP. I lost a lot of weight the 'old fashioned way' but after a year i was fed up of the constant battle with willpower. I started the WLI and i found that i didn't require that same level of constant willpower anymore, so YES you will need to eat less and move more etc, but you wont have to battle or fight with yourself to stay on track so much- at least that's my experience as i felt less hungry, fuller quicker and went off lots of high cal foods.

Yeah I totally get that. But there’s absolutely no way I’d take my chances with the pancreas.

I’ve lost the same 5 stone twice in 10 years - once naturally through diet and exercise, and once on WLIs and am now on maintenance. It took about a year and a half naturally, a year on the jabs. I agree with OP, it was far, far easier (and quicker) on the jabs. Yes I still get cravings but fewer of them and I physically can’t eat as much whereas before when I did it, it was a constant battle and I haven’t needed the same level of willpower. My DH is also on them and says the same. I guess everyone’s different though, but for me they’ve been so much easier.

I know a lot of people on these drugs who are not morbidly obese, some barely overweight. Not enough research has been done yet. They’ve already linked the jabs to a couple of cancers - wait a decade or two and let’s see what happens. As previous poster said, don’t f with the pancreas. Pancreatic cancer is one of the fastest killers.

Thanks, it's good to know I have your permission.

So odd. I was just talking to a friend today about how society needs to be healthier, yet people despise WLIs. Fewer fat people = fewer ill people = more money for society. But because it’s about fat people, there’s a lot of negativity.

Ok. Keep taking them then 🤷🏻‍♀️

Mounjaro and other GLP-1 medications don't just suppress your appetite though. I've attached a post from Reddit which explains how they work and why suddenly we're seeing a lot of people drop weight after years and years of diet and exercise with little result.

I've got PCOS and I'm 5 stone down on Mounjaro after never being able to lose more than 10lb through diet and exercise alone. I wouldn't begrudge anyone taking it - you wouldn't stick your nose up at someone using aids to stop smoking, so why be annoyed that someone is trying to stop being fat?

It was one of my reasons for doubling my efforts to lose weight - I had a bit of a scare suggesting that I might have uterine cancer. Being obese is a known risk factor for the condition. (I've had three clear biopsies, thankfully.)

I wasn’t morbidly obese but I was pretty vast. I was 15 and a half stone and at 5’3, just under the morbidly obese line.

Something doesn’t have to be life threatening to seriously impact your life, as anyone with chronic pain will tell you.

It does make things easier, of course it does. Certainly way easier than having bits of yourself lopped off.

Weight loss without WLI tends to be bloody hard work, and miserable to boot. With WLI it has it’s own challenges (just read any thread in the topic), but those challenges don’t tend to include being unable to stop stuffing your face.

They do include people hating on you for using the smart solution for getting healthy though. It’s deeply odd.

I kind of agree with you OP tbh. I’ve been losing on average a pound a week since June on MJ. I eat a lot LESS and it’s changed my need to comfort eat, that’s purely the drug. That’s what’s led to the weight loss as I’m still eating the same foods. I’m just eating less. I’m not doing more exercise. It’s not hard, and that’s what I need at the moment. I will put more hard work in as I get smaller - eating (even) better, more exercise.

Also I noticed incredible reduced inflammation 10 days - 2 weeks after starting the drug. Eg I no longer have to recover from a run, whereas off the drug it takes me a good 3 days to stop aching. People say that weight loss helps inflammation - yes, but I hadn’t lost any weight yet 10 days in. That’s purely the drug.

Of course the drugs help massively. That’s the whole point.

Possibly, but she's going to "cheat" by getting a mummy makeover, and she hasn't actually said that she thinks doing it the "hard" way is more virtuous, so who knows.

But, I agree there are a lot of goady threads on here digging at people who use WLI, and I just cannot fathom why anyone cares!

I'm just under the cut-off line now - my BMI is 28.9, after taking more than two years to lose 2st 4lbs. (I have the same again to lose.)

Well done on losing the six stone. I'm betting that you feel so much better in yourself?

Many WLI users are not morbidly obese though. The majority of the ones I know are/were a bit overweight, busy, and dont live lifestyles that enable/support the sustained healthy eating and exercise regime that weight loss in your late 40s and 50s requires.

It’s so easy to get them online without being morbidly obese.

Ah you misunderstand me - no smugness here! All weight loss is hard work and all weight loss should be celebrated regardless of how it's achieved imo. Food noise is so hard to ignore, let alone overcome. I still battle food noise daily, I don't think it'll ever go away.