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Is this strange or not?

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Sillyjumble · 05/11/2025 19:26

I should start by saying that I was groomed by a neighbour at 12 years old. To deal with this I have been seeing a specialist counsellor.

Last week I mentioned that my niece (11) is going on holiday alone with her uncle. They have been on lots of holiday together.

My counsellor has said that this is weird. And questioned why a 49 year old single man with no kids wants to go on holiday with an 11 year old (started holidaying together at 7 years old).

Would I be unreasonable to say something, maybe ask my niece questions? I don't want to start a massive argument where ultimately I'll be shunned. I've never had reason to question this, but my counsellor pointed out that this is how children get abused. My head is a mess tonight.

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junebirthdaygirl · 05/11/2025 20:52

My dm was 24 when l was born. All her brothers were younger and cool. They taught me to ride a bike, played football etc. But no way would l have been going on holidays alone with any one of them. It just wouldn't have happened. You know teachers cannot be alone with a child and yet these parents are allowing a man..yes a relative..to be on his own for a week with a child. No way! I wonder was your sister also abused and subsequently is not thinking straight. Most abuse is done by relatives.
Not only is it not good for the child but the uncle is being totally unwise as if the little one made an allegation he hasn't a leg to stand on.

Sillyjumble · 05/11/2025 20:51

@dollymylove yes I feel guilty for even asking peoples opinions, believe me.

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CountFucula · 05/11/2025 20:50

Of course it’s weird. It’s fucking weird. You must speak to the parents and niece.

Sillyjumble · 05/11/2025 20:47

@JediNinja no drip feed, nothing specific about the holidays. No theme parks, just beach holidays or tourist hotspots. I don't think DB was abused as a child. He used to go away on his own a lot and then suddenly started taking niece when she was about 7. He's not a very sociable person and doesn't seem to have had any long term relationships for the past 15 years.

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Dollymylove · 05/11/2025 20:47

Sillyjumble · 05/11/2025 20:03

@Redhairandhottubs My niece will come to stay with me during the holidays and we will go out on trips together to the beach etc, I'm not a holiday type person. Because I'm female people would say that's ok, I don't want to be pointing the finger just because he's male.

But you ARE pointing the finger by making this post. Imho the therapist is unethical to be making assumptions about someone they dont even know.

Its up to the parents to decide if its OK or not OK

JediNinja · 05/11/2025 20:41

I don't think that most 7-10 year olds are "travel company". So that would be odd in general. At that age, most kids l are quite dependent. At 11+, girls are almost tweens and their bodies are visibly developing as well. Many would have had their first period. For me that would be odd, most people would first invite a friend or BIL in those circumstances. Unless there's a drip feed where we are told that the holiday is to Disneyland or a theme park and DB feels self-conscious being there on their own. Did he go through similar childhood trauma?

BatchCookBabe · 05/11/2025 20:39

WonderlandWasAllAHoax · 05/11/2025 20:23

Everyone saying it's weird - would you say the same if it was a male child? Or an aunt taking her nephew?

Yes it's weird, and no, I wouldn't say it was weird if it was a middle aged woman (aunt) taking her 11 year old nephew (or niece) somewhere on holiday. You're deluded and naive, if you can't see why people are way more suspicious of a man than they are of a woman in a situation like this. As a pp said, it's a useless comparison! I bet you're the same kind of person who says 'I bet you wouldn't care if your husband was having lunch with a MAN!' when a poster is upset that her husband is taking female colleague to lunch.

@Sillyjumble YANBU at all, and I am sorry for what you've been through. I (fortunately) was not sexually abused as a child, but even I am a bit Shock at this. Why does a middle aged man want to be with a small girl on holiday? I do think it's odd. It's very possible that it's innocent, (and I hope it is,) but even if it is innocent it's still bloody weird.

SteakBakesAndHotTakes · 05/11/2025 20:37

WonderlandWasAllAHoax · 05/11/2025 20:23

Everyone saying it's weird - would you say the same if it was a male child? Or an aunt taking her nephew?

Over 90% of sex crimes are committed by men, so it's not a useful comparison.

SeaAndStars · 05/11/2025 20:33

My experience is the same as @Peakypolly . Our uncle would take my brother and I and my female on holiday. Sometimes together and sometimes individually. He was single, no kids of his own and just so lovely and caring to us and huge fun too. We would always go to special things - like the switch on of the Blackpool lights or carnival days at the seaside. My husband had a similar set up with an aunt who had much more time for him than his own parents.

He was such a lovely man and we were all bereft when he died.

I do hope all is as lovely as our experience for your niece and her uncle OP. I'm so very sorry you went through what you did.

Missj25 · 05/11/2025 20:28

Sillyjumble · 05/11/2025 19:56

@Missj25 just to be clear, she is the child of another sibling of mine. I guess most people don't believe bad things would happen to their own children. And I'm not saying my DB is doing anything wrong, just the seeds of doubt have been sown.

Yeah , look this one of those threads that’s it’s impossible to advise because we’re behind screens, & really you need to know the people involved..
I hope there is nothing sinister going on OP x

Sillyjumble · 05/11/2025 20:27

@ChikinLikin some other people have expressed that they find it weird, but parents think it's ok.

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MidnightMusing5 · 05/11/2025 20:25

Leave it to the professionals let her school know and or social services

Sillyjumble · 05/11/2025 20:24

They share a family room. They have been abroad to tourist places and the UK, just doing what everyone else does on holiday, nothing specific.

Niece is an only child. The only way I'd say her parents are neglectful are with their time. She has everything else a child could want.

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WonderlandWasAllAHoax · 05/11/2025 20:23

Everyone saying it's weird - would you say the same if it was a male child? Or an aunt taking her nephew?

ChikinLikin · 05/11/2025 20:22

Why don't you tell her parents that your therapist thought it strange? Or if you don't want them to know you see a therapist, invent a friend who thinks it's strange. My own experience is similar to yours, so I am suspicious of all older male relatives.

Neveranynamesleft · 05/11/2025 20:21

I would be asking questions....

DeemonLlama · 05/11/2025 20:16

Sillyjumble · 05/11/2025 19:42

@PinkFrogss yes I'm feeling a bit annoyed at the therapist because she said if I don't ask my niece questions I'll blame myself if it comes out in the future.

Where are the parents of the child in this though? Isn't it down to them? Rather than you to make sure she is safe? Do you have any reason not to trust their judgement because they must be giving her permission to go with him? Do they seem neglectful?

coxesorangepippin · 05/11/2025 20:13

It's weird, and you know it.

ConstitutionHill · 05/11/2025 20:13

What exactly are they doing together on holiday? What are the sleeping arrangements? Who else will be there. What do your niece's parents say/think about this?

MyLimeGuide · 05/11/2025 20:08

Does your niece have lots of siblings and gets little attention from her parents and uncle steps in to provide her with nice times that parents arent providing maybe??

Sillyjumble · 05/11/2025 20:04

@Peakypolly thank you, it's lovely you had that experience. I hope it's the same for my niece, I don't really have a reason to doubt my DB.

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Sillyjumble · 05/11/2025 20:03

@Redhairandhottubs My niece will come to stay with me during the holidays and we will go out on trips together to the beach etc, I'm not a holiday type person. Because I'm female people would say that's ok, I don't want to be pointing the finger just because he's male.

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Peakypolly · 05/11/2025 20:01

I voted YABU as I had a single uncle who took me on the most fantastic holidays as a child. He lived in the city (we were rural) and I went to amazing shows, exhibitions, restaurants (my first experiences of Chinese, Thai etc.) As I became a teen he took me to a few amazing further flung places.
Looking back I can see he would never have DC of his own. My sibling is 7 years older and he did the same with them.
We agree we both had some of our happiest times with him and are both so sad he died when I was 16/sib 22 and we didn't really get to know him as adults.
We are all formed by our existence and I can see why you feel the way you do but, from my point of view, if the Uncle is coming from the right place it can be amazing. My DH had a similar experience with a much older cousin who introduced him to loving nature and countryside crafts.
Hopefully speaking to your niece will reassure you.

Redhairandhottubs · 05/11/2025 19:57

I think it does feel odd because he’s a man, but would it feel odd for a 49 year old single woman to take her nephew or niece on holiday? Probably not, you would think that she just wanted to spend time with them as she hasn’t had children of her own.

However as most sexual abuse is committed by men, I think the therapist isn’t wrong to question it.

Sillyjumble · 05/11/2025 19:56

@Missj25 just to be clear, she is the child of another sibling of mine. I guess most people don't believe bad things would happen to their own children. And I'm not saying my DB is doing anything wrong, just the seeds of doubt have been sown.

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