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Is this strange or not?

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Sillyjumble · 05/11/2025 19:26

I should start by saying that I was groomed by a neighbour at 12 years old. To deal with this I have been seeing a specialist counsellor.

Last week I mentioned that my niece (11) is going on holiday alone with her uncle. They have been on lots of holiday together.

My counsellor has said that this is weird. And questioned why a 49 year old single man with no kids wants to go on holiday with an 11 year old (started holidaying together at 7 years old).

Would I be unreasonable to say something, maybe ask my niece questions? I don't want to start a massive argument where ultimately I'll be shunned. I've never had reason to question this, but my counsellor pointed out that this is how children get abused. My head is a mess tonight.

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sharkstale · 05/11/2025 22:58

Sillyjumble · 05/11/2025 22:49

@sharkstale brother is close to my sibling. Niece is the only child in the family as my sibling was born years after the rest of us. Personally I've always considered their trips as innocent. DB has a good job and doesn't have an issue with paying for everything. I do have a good relationship with my niece and she tells me lots of things, doesn't really mention DB though.

I may be wrong, but if you've been abused yourself (I'm sorryFlowers) and you've always believed this to be innocent, I'd say trust your gut.

You could always speak to the parents, or your neice as you have a good relationship, but I definitely wouldn't raise it with the school.

Praying4Peace · 05/11/2025 22:56

WonderlandWasAllAHoax · 05/11/2025 20:23

Everyone saying it's weird - would you say the same if it was a male child? Or an aunt taking her nephew?

Sums it up perfectly

Sillyjumble · 05/11/2025 22:55

@Praying4Peace my niece is the only child in the immediate family at the moment. There are older 'children' who are really adults now who have their own things to do.

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Praying4Peace · 05/11/2025 22:52

Sillyjumble · 05/11/2025 19:49

@LemograssLollipop she is another one of my siblings children

Why aren't others invited?

Sillyjumble · 05/11/2025 22:51

@AlexisP90 so sorry you experienced that. This is why I don't go in guns blazing because it would be based on my own experience. And I know full well, not all men are monsters. I can't believe the therapist has laid a guilt trip on me tbh.

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Sillyjumble · 05/11/2025 22:49

@sharkstale brother is close to my sibling. Niece is the only child in the family as my sibling was born years after the rest of us. Personally I've always considered their trips as innocent. DB has a good job and doesn't have an issue with paying for everything. I do have a good relationship with my niece and she tells me lots of things, doesn't really mention DB though.

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AlexisP90 · 05/11/2025 22:38

I find it very alarming but I have been a victim of abuse (from an uncle as a child) so I really cant be a voice of reason on this one.

Your therapist was a bit out of order though. Its your therapy why are they pushing this on you? Especially with what you've been through yourself.

No advice on what I would do because what I would do is from my own negative experiences

musicinme · 05/11/2025 22:33

I would change your therapist immediately. They are unethical and unprofessional at the very least. Dangerous at the worst. Awful, just awful.

sharkstale · 05/11/2025 22:32

Initially, I didn't find this odd until I read that he wants to take her for company. That sounds a bit weird. But before my brother got married and had kids, he was very close to my dd (he and I were always very close from childhood, and I was a single parent) so picturing this scenario with the two of them, I can see it being completely innocent. (Although now we all go away together with all the kids.) How close is your db to the parents of your niece?

JLou08 · 05/11/2025 22:28

I think you need a new counsellor. She shouldn't be putting ideas in your head that cause you more anxiety.
Spend time with your niece and be someone she could confide in, that's the best thing to do regardless of the holidays. Don't go investigating things based in your counsellors warped ideas about uncles.

CantBreathe90 · 05/11/2025 22:22

The parents obviously trust him. If my brother took my sons on holiday, I'd think that was lovely. I also have a close, male friend I've been close to since I was a child myself. I would absolutely trust him aswell. A new man who had come into my life in recent years, not so much. But thus doesn't sound like it's the case. Not all men with an interest in children are paedophiles.

londongirl12 · 05/11/2025 22:11

ChikinLikin · 05/11/2025 21:03

I think it's very wrong that they share a family room. Someone suggested informing the school and I think that's a good idea.

What type of room should they have then? A child can’t have a room of their own. Surely a family room is better as they’ll be separate beds. A double room would be more concerning.

Sillyjumble · 05/11/2025 21:44

@Onmytod24 after reading all of these replies I guess I won't be going back there. You have all made me see, it won't be my fault if anything happens to my niece, it will be her parents fault. I guess all I can do is either report it to the school or ask my niece a few questions. I feel like I've been bullied by the therapist who knows my weaknesses.

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Burgerphone · 05/11/2025 21:38

I think it's strange yes and personally would not allow that.

I also think your therapist is a bit weird to be planting such a seed like this. There are lots of weirdo therapists out there but that's another thread.

Onmytod24 · 05/11/2025 21:34

Your therapist has behaved unprofessionally put in a burden on you. I would change the therapist. I would actually report them to their supervising body.

ToeJob · 05/11/2025 21:34

Sillyjumble · 05/11/2025 19:42

@PinkFrogss yes I'm feeling a bit annoyed at the therapist because she said if I don't ask my niece questions I'll blame myself if it comes out in the future.

I would change therapists. She is at best ineffective and at worst horribly unprofessional.

Glowingup · 05/11/2025 21:32

ChikinLikin · 05/11/2025 21:03

I think it's very wrong that they share a family room. Someone suggested informing the school and I think that's a good idea.

OP: Hello there, may I speak to the Headteacher?

HT: Yes, are you a parent of a child at the school?

OP: No, this is about my niece. She goes on holiday with her uncle sometimes, my brother. And you see, my therapist thinks that this is very dodgy.

HT: errrr

OP: I mean her parents are fine with it but you never know do you? I thought you should know.

Blump2783 · 05/11/2025 21:24

This would make more sense to me if the uncle is childless. If it was an aunt taking their niece or nephew would people think differently? I don't have children and would love taking my niece away as I enjoy her company.
A dad going away with their daughter wouldn't be deemed weird would it, so why not a childless uncle who loves spending time with their niece.
I do appreciate there will be situations where abuse happens but there are a lot of innocent men out there who like their family.

Ncforthis2244 · 05/11/2025 21:23

This thread is batshit! There is nothing wrong with a man taking a niece or nephew that he's close to away on holiday.

There are countless excellent aunties and uncles out there who 'shock horror' enjoy spending time with their siblings kids, especially if they have none of their own.

Inform the school for fucks sake. I despair of mn sometimes.

TheWonderhorse · 05/11/2025 21:19

Just popping on to say I would trust either of my DBs to take my kids away wherever.

PinkFrogss · 05/11/2025 21:16

Sillyjumble · 05/11/2025 19:42

@PinkFrogss yes I'm feeling a bit annoyed at the therapist because she said if I don't ask my niece questions I'll blame myself if it comes out in the future.

Your therapist sounds awful, please get a new one.

There would be no reason to blame yourself and your therapist shouldn’t be encouraging you to feel guilty about things you have no part in. I’m so sorry OP you don’t deserve it at all.

Mustreadabook · 05/11/2025 21:12

Sillyjumble · 05/11/2025 20:03

@Redhairandhottubs My niece will come to stay with me during the holidays and we will go out on trips together to the beach etc, I'm not a holiday type person. Because I'm female people would say that's ok, I don't want to be pointing the finger just because he's male.

You are right, people are pointing the finger just because he is male. Or because she is female. I expect any of the other combinations would be considered ok. Which is sad. The only time I would think it was weird is if she has siblings and she is the only one getting these holidays, and she isn't the oldest.

ChikinLikin · 05/11/2025 21:03

I think it's very wrong that they share a family room. Someone suggested informing the school and I think that's a good idea.

JediNinja · 05/11/2025 21:03

I don't know, you need to judge perhaps with other factors. It could be that DN is not usually taken on holiday so he feels she can benefit from this. Are there any other nephews and nieces? Is she the only one ? Does he offer to take only this particular DN? Do DB play and entertain his nephews and nieces when they are around? Do they all run to him in family gatherings, or avoid him? Do they happily stay alone in the same room if you go to the kitchen or would they follow you?

Glowingup · 05/11/2025 20:52

If I was the DB and my sister insinuated I was a paedophile that would be it for our relationship. It is possible for people to have close family relationships outside the traditional nuclear family without the adult being a paedophile.

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