The immigration related clown show continues

Yep she knew this budget was going to show the lie in the manifesto and break the pledge after the ‘24 one for a one off tax hike.

Starmer too in that last line.

How would you build more prisons & recruit the staff required inside 16months?

Cannot be done.

How is it Labours fault the prison system still, incredibly, uses paper records, Fax machines & has a staff turn over of around 15%.

Do you have any idea how long it would take to plan, build, install the cabling alone for a modern IT system, they don't even have the power requirements.

You appear to rate yourself as a fair minded person, yet time after time, just show your right wing credentials.

If by 2029, the situation has not improved significantly, then yes of course, it will be on Labour but not yet.

Is she? Not really, thats just your bias coming out, the UK is growing faster than other G7 countries, US aside, inflation stabilised, billions in tech inward investment.
Contrast that with Sunaks recession, just 3 years ago, inflation at 12%, the hiding of unemployment figures by sticking people, esp young people on disability benefits.

Tremendous damage? Yes caused by the Tories.

Of course its fixation, her crying is continuallu mentioned by people like you because you've nothing else and you like to mock, it doesn't even add anything to the discussion, you don't know the reasons, you don't know her personal life nor have access to her medical records, deeply misogynistic too.

She has since managed to deliver several difficult interviews and speeches.

Yours is yet another example of the rightwing constantly attacking Labour women.... maybe we should all stay in our lane? wasn't there a Tory minister who said we should stay at home and knock babies?

It was an act of enormous self-pity, and once again, she lied as to the reasons.

No fixation here, beyond the tremendous damage this person is currently inflicting on the UK.

Really? If we stopped all immigration right now, how do you think the care sector would cope? You could trot out the tired old chestnut about how care homes would just have to pay higher wages, but you know those costs would be passed down to the people buying in care services - so you'd have to pay them higher wages too. And so the cascade would start.

Weaning the UK economy off immigration is possible, but it would be a long process requiring patience and investment. I wouldn't be against it per se, but it is not the simple fix the anti immigrant brigade on here seem to think.

And when you say 'self sufficient and pay their way' - what does that look like for you? Are immigrants allowed to accumulate and claim a state pension (which they will be paying into)? Are they allowed to use the NHS (which their txes pay into) at some point, and how many years would that take? At which point would they be allowed to claim benefits if they became ill or disabled? I know what the Reform position on this is and it disgusts me. I am also aware of the recent bill from Katie Lam MP, which is equally vile. Is that the sort of thing you would advocate?

Foreign national offenders are over represented in crime statistics

This is not true.

The foreign born population as of 2021 was approximately 16%

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migrants-in-the-uk-an-overview/

The foreign national prison population is 12%

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/offender-management-statistics-quarterly-january-to-march-2025/offender-management-statistics-quarterly-january-to-march-2025#:~:text=Foreign%20National%20Offenders%20(FNOs),%25)%20and%20Lithuanian%20(3%25).

Meh? Ok sounds great.

Meh, I could commit a heinous crime tomorrow after 28 years here...

To be honest the economy is in bad shape now, not really understanding how the immigration we seem to have is helping when we have things like money laundering, people trafficking and so on

I have nothing against those who are self sufficient and can actually pay their way

There was a damning article in the Daily Torygraph about asylum claims.

It's nothing new- it can take 10 years for an asylum claim to be processed which is a big problem when you have many claimants who can disappear.

Plus some worrying facts about the pressure on staff to meet targets for ended claims or the case worker could face losing their job.

It’s easier to vet in some cases though. For instance ask for a police report prior to entry.

Plenty of stories about female influencers getting jobs in prisons and having sex for content. Others smuggling in drugs, phones etc. Prison Service is struggling and has been for years. Recruitment, retention, overcrowding etc

Everyone who comes to the UK is a potential criminal. Including the ones who come here legally for work or study. Unless you're proposing zero immigration, which would crash the UK economy in record time, this is really not the gotcha you think it is.

So why would you want to have even more possible criminals coming to the UK

You seem very fixated on Reeves crying. Yes it was deeply unprofessional, but why keep dredging it up?

LizzieSiddal
Where’s the outrage for the 2 women a week killed by white men?!

What makes you think that all of those women were killed by white men?

A rough count up here (80 women allegedly killed by men in the UK in 2024) reveals that 22 (27%) of the men charged with murder are not white.

(A further 5 or 6 men have white but EU/other heritage)

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ng-interactive/2024/dec/31/killed-women-count-a-project-highlighting-the-toll-and-tragedy-of-violence-against-women-in-the-uk

I can't find the original source (it was a few years old - I'll post the link if I find it) but the 2024 Home Office figures show that approx. 25% of the population of working age have a criminal record, [Source - The Law Society Gazette - 30 Oct 2024]

I'll concede that the original statement might not reflect the current situation, but it is clear that the number and percentage of people with a criminal record is perhaps higher than generally acknowleged. For example, of men born in 1953 (who therefore don't appear in the above figure for people of working age) 33% had a criminal record.

25% of men in the UK have a criminal record? Hardly. Got the source for this?

No poppy at PMQs and suit shopping in the morning.

Do you think PMQs is the correct place to read out a statement?

While being fully on the side of the rational argument that the crisis in the prison service has deep roots, I am totally frustrated by Lammy's deplorable series of own goals yesterday and his ill-judged attempts to redeem himself: no poppy so he ends up wearing a veteran's poppy on the wrong lapel; says that he went shopping 'this morning' then changes it to Monday morning; far, far too angry for a public performance at the dispatch box, in the very week that a French prosecutor accuses him of an 'incoherent rant'; has a statement about the accidentally released Algerian in his folder yet doesn't read it out, subsequently passing blame to the Met and is now accused by the opposition of misleading the House.

Angela Rayner would have done so much better but alas didn't pay enough stamp duty.

Yeah I'm good, thanks for asking. I see you like to chuck insults out, but don't respond so well if you get push back

Makes you wonder if there is something they are deliberately not telling us because if you notice this so called uncontrollable immigration has become an issue in practically every European country simultaneously. You could almost say it's a part of a conscious and deliberate policy but then someone will accuse you of being a conspiracy theorist, of course!

Having said this, migration is nonetheless a coordinated effort at the UN level, and the UN "urges governments to pursue gender-transformative, human rights-based migration policies in partnership with trade unions and civil society"

I guess what's happening now is how certainly all European governments see the pursuit of those policies. I don't know where the rights of local populations come into it though.

So is your answer is to vote Reform who are full of ex Tory MPs? Reform who have taken Russian bribes (Nathan Gill) and have no interest in supporting the rights of working people or women?

Farage the millionaire ex-banker always votes against policies that protect women (against harassment, against upskirting, stalking, drink spiking). Who thinks that young people should accept less than the minimum pay because that will make them hungry for success. One of the Reform run councils in Warwickshire is proposing to do away with free transport for children under eight who live more than 2 miles from school each way to save money (reform aren’t for the working class).

Reform who made this country poorer through Brexit and will line his pocket if he becomes PM?

Or are you proposing to support another party like the Greens? As it isn’t very clear.