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The immigration related clown show continues

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WildLimePoet · 05/11/2025 17:09

So now an Algerian national who was released by mistake last week is at large. As if the previous debacle with the Epping forest sex offender wasn’t bad enough.

The fact that we are hearing about this again and again tells us that,
This happens all the time
Foreign national offenders are over represented in crime statistics
Immigration is out of control
People working in Home office, prison service and and every other government department are incompetent and beyond useless.

And these people have the audacity to tell us that they want more of the public’s money in taxes.

At this point, this government (and the previous one) is laughing at us. They are taking the piss out of us. This country is broken and Labour and Tories need to be voted so far into oblivion and out of power that they never get anywhere power, ever again.

OP posts:
CaptainMyCaptain · 06/11/2025 07:43

Great post.

jasflowers · 06/11/2025 07:42

hamstersarse · 06/11/2025 07:10

I think it’s relevant to mention the lefties.
The Rwanda plan could have been fully implemented had it not been for the bleeding heart lefties scuppering it at every turn

Why do the right wing lie? its like the go to option whenever they get found out.

Sunak had a majority of 80 ish MPs, he could have passed whatever law he wanted and changed any he didn't like.

He didn't, instead he called a GE.

Rwanda plan was for 250 in the first year, with max of 5000, across 5 years, so a less than 1% chance of being deported.

No deterrent at all.

Havanananana · 06/11/2025 07:33

cityanalyst678 · 06/11/2025 07:14

Why do you lot keep banging on about austerity?
In Covid more money was given out through the furlough scheme than in any other non war time in history. Yes they completely messed up with PPE, but why is that you only talk about austerity?

Because "Austerity" was a deliberate plan to de-fund public services i order to give tax cuts to the wealthy and to businesses in the misguided belief that this wealth would "trickle down." The government expected volunteers and "big society" to step in.

It didn't work. Instead it resulted in the start of the downward spiral in the quality of public services while the money that should have trickled down was instead stashed away in bank accounts or moved abroad to be invested there.

Any idiot can claim to have "saved" money by not having their car regularly serviced, by not replacing the tyres, not changing the oil and ignoring all of the warning lights - but the inevitable result is that at some point the car will either break down, or even worse crash, as a vital part fails.

Havanananana · 06/11/2025 07:22

hamstersarse · 06/11/2025 07:10

I think it’s relevant to mention the lefties.
The Rwanda plan could have been fully implemented had it not been for the bleeding heart lefties scuppering it at every turn

Opposing the deportation fellow humans to a prison camp in a third-world country does not make someone a "lefty."

25% of men in the UK have a criminal record. Should they all be deported - something that used to happen until the 1860s?

Iwantitidontwantit · 06/11/2025 07:19

WildLimePoet · 05/11/2025 19:11

An overstayer since 2020, still here, and he was a sex offender to boot. You could not make this shit up.

But of course, the far left Marxist fans of open borders don’t mind.

You hard of thinkers need to decide what the "far left" actually are. Just this week I've been called a Socialist, a Communist and now a Marxist. All very different things, but I doubt you know that as you get your news from Facebook and X

cityanalyst678 · 06/11/2025 07:14

SerendipityJane · 05/11/2025 17:21

How come 14 years of austerity and cuts have only led to a handful of cock ups like this ?

Why do you lot keep banging on about austerity?
In Covid more money was given out through the furlough scheme than in any other non war time in history. Yes they completely messed up with PPE, but why is that you only talk about austerity?

scalt · 06/11/2025 07:14

Is the right-wing Tory-owned media no longer bothered about the cost of living? Oh wait, they never were.

hamstersarse · 06/11/2025 07:10

I think it’s relevant to mention the lefties.
The Rwanda plan could have been fully implemented had it not been for the bleeding heart lefties scuppering it at every turn

jasflowers · 06/11/2025 06:58

Blarghism · 06/11/2025 05:41

Why mention Marxists? It was the Tories who vetted him, granted him a visa then didn't know where he was or bother to remove him when it ran out.

Don't know why Lammy, who knew about this release, didn't hammer this home yesterday.
By not asking the Tory question, he looked stupid.

However, why is it a Govt ministers fault if a Prison Officer doesn't do his job? all they can do is set the conditions, they cannot be held responsible for human error.

Apparently, Sunak called the last election when he did, because he knew the Prison System was about to collapse.

BlossomingSlowly · 06/11/2025 06:43

Not bothered by what nationality a criminal is, nor the colour of their skin. Mad that some people are. I heard the guy was a scorpio, maybe we should print that on the front pages?

Monty27 · 06/11/2025 06:09

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Nocknick · 06/11/2025 05:57

Blarghism · 06/11/2025 05:41

Why mention Marxists? It was the Tories who vetted him, granted him a visa then didn't know where he was or bother to remove him when it ran out.

You’re absolutely right.

The amount of stupidity on show is staggering.

I really worry we are turning more like the US each day. And I say that as someone who visits there regularly and has many loved ones there.

A large part of the population has always been stubbornly and unashamedly ignorant and prejudiced. This is why they jumped on to the Maga hate train so easily. Not a fan of Clinton but she was right to call them deplorables.

There are good things to take from the U.S. but we just seem to take the bad things and run with it.

Nocknick · 06/11/2025 05:52

Bringemout · 06/11/2025 05:23

Isn’t it the point though that it should be zero.

How is that the point? Someone claimed they’re over represented and apparently they’re not so that poster was correcting them with FACTS.

It should be zero with British nationals too but it’s not as we don’t live in a utopia.

The fact that there is imperfection and deviance in any group of people, doesn’t mean they’re all bad. Plenty of countries have British “ex-pats” (ie immigrants!) and even British tourists who commit crime too.

Nocknick · 06/11/2025 05:49

Havanananana · 05/11/2025 21:19

@WildLimePoet

"The fact that we are hearing about this again and again tells us that,
This happens all the time
Foreign national offenders are over represented in crime statistics
Immigration is out of control..."

Except you're wrong:

UK Prison Statistics Reveal Surprising Imbalance: Foreign Nationals Underrepresented in England and Wales Jails [Source - Britbrief.co.uk]

Edited

Don’t bring facts and statistics to this discussion.

We need to protect ARE girls and women etc

MumofCandRA · 06/11/2025 05:43

Anecdata

Blarghism · 06/11/2025 05:41

WildLimePoet · 05/11/2025 19:11

An overstayer since 2020, still here, and he was a sex offender to boot. You could not make this shit up.

But of course, the far left Marxist fans of open borders don’t mind.

Why mention Marxists? It was the Tories who vetted him, granted him a visa then didn't know where he was or bother to remove him when it ran out.

mellongoose · 06/11/2025 05:33

Glitchymn1 · 06/11/2025 05:25

Tories caused this, not Labour.

In April 2006, you may recall, Labour’s Home Secretary Charles Clarke offered Blair his resignation because 1,000 foreign national offenders were released at the end of their sentence without being considered for deportation.
It was refused but he was sacked in the reshuffle after the local elections.
History repeating itself?

Glitchymn1 · 06/11/2025 05:25

Tories caused this, not Labour.

CurlewKate · 06/11/2025 05:24

WildLimePoet · 05/11/2025 19:11

An overstayer since 2020, still here, and he was a sex offender to boot. You could not make this shit up.

But of course, the far left Marxist fans of open borders don’t mind.

Why wasn’t he deported under the previous administration? They had 3 years to do it.

Bringemout · 06/11/2025 05:23

Havanananana · 05/11/2025 21:19

@WildLimePoet

"The fact that we are hearing about this again and again tells us that,
This happens all the time
Foreign national offenders are over represented in crime statistics
Immigration is out of control..."

Except you're wrong:

UK Prison Statistics Reveal Surprising Imbalance: Foreign Nationals Underrepresented in England and Wales Jails [Source - Britbrief.co.uk]

Edited

Isn’t it the point though that it should be zero.

Bringemout · 06/11/2025 05:21

Ablondiebutagoody · 05/11/2025 23:43

I suspect that they would prefer their attacker wasn't subsequently granted asylum. Currently crimes with sentences of less than a year in prison are overlooked for asylum decisions. Our Government considers that men with convictions for indecent exposure for example are a welcome addition to our society.

I find it really easy to not commit crimes, I regularly don’t sexual assault anyone, violently assault anyone or steal anything. I don’t understand why we think that anyone that commits any kind of crime should be eligible to live in the UK.

It’s not that fucking hard.

Bringemout · 06/11/2025 05:19

If someone has committed a crime it should be straight on a plane and deported. The other guys who was accidentally released was apparently given £500 to not try to appeal because once he does we are stuck with him for years. The reality is it appears to be difficult to get rid of people. A visa overstayer should have been escorted directly to the airport.

This was true under the conservatives as well. I remember those idiots that managed to prevent the deportation of a bunch of sex offenders on their plane. Oh and the labour Mp’s objecting the deportation of criminals too.

It’s actual insanity.

Summerhillsquare · 06/11/2025 05:05

Aye, people voting for tax cuts are definitely going to vote for parties explaining tax rises are necessary to fund good public services 🤔

IAmTheLogLady · 06/11/2025 05:02

sleepwouldbenice · 06/11/2025 00:26

agreed. I have been thinking this for weeks, months

I have no problem with a rational balanced plan for immigration, there are problems

but the problems are so overblown. I genuinely don’t understand why people believe all problems are caused by it

all sense of proportion has been lost, blown apart by hate and misinformation

It's scary isn't it. How much some people want to hate.
I don't necessarily believe in completely open borders.
I don't care more about immigrants more than homeless (white) veterans.
I don't think all immigrants should be given a brand new house with a home gym, big flat screen tv and a huge wad of cash while (white) British citizens starve. (I know this doesn't actually happen incase it's not obvious.)
I don't hate asylum seekers though, I'm balanced enough to see what is going on here.
The rich continues to get richer whilst blaming the most vulnerable in society for their mess and there's enough hate and prejudice in built in people to believe it.
Yes, I know some of those vulnerable people will be criminals, sex offenders etc. No I don't like having sex offenders of any background in the UK. I don't think anyone does.

IAmTheLogLady · 06/11/2025 04:43

ilovesooty · 05/11/2025 23:13

I expect the OP wants Reform to take a hatchet to the Civil Service. Perhaps she'll tell us more about Reform's justice policy. Or perhaps not.

It's not just to do with immigration- honest.