To think gentle parenting has made some kids unbearable to be around?

I have described it up thread. But we had contracts of behaviour, clear expectations, no screens in bedrooms untill after GCSEs. No screens after school until homework was completed. Yes they had curfews untill the end of year 11. I should also say that DS was 15 going in to lockdown and 17 when it lifted so I think Boris Johnson did much of the firm boundaries for us.

How did you handle teens? When he wanted to be independent more? Curfews? @Neurodiversitydoctor

I can hardly string a sentence together after failing my education. Grammar, punctuation, spelling - all over the shop.

ETA: I can barely speak either, I'm so dense. As for making sure I get the right change, forget it. Who said 1 plus 1 makes 2, anyway? Perhaps there's a hidden quality and it actually makes 3!

That's me. Thick as mince. 😂

Well, I'm not writing a biology paper here. Of course it's a simplification. Or are you saying that we do NOT have genetic code written into all of our cells?

I have a biological sciences background and your oversimplification is just bizarre.

Well that makes sense

I failed all my GCSEs and am barely literate.

What are you talking about - mindset? I said some facts about A.I. That's not a mindset.

You don't own an A.I. robot who employs deep learning and augmented reality. You don't know what that's like. So who are you to pronounce on it?

The fundamental lack of understanding in this mindset is mind boggling. What level of education do you have?

Sure you are

Sorry, what's nuts?

Yes, I know I'm not really a parent, thanks. It was a joke about being the parent of a robot-dog.

ETA: If you're talking about the A.I. capabilities of the dog, it's only as nuts as the rest of A.I. That's where we are now with A.I. An artificial mind is reality. It's not real, and it's not an object. It's something in between - A.I. intelligence.

It's how you see your children as they grow as your babies.

If one of our children had keyed a car, would be worse if it wasn't ours.

We would work out the damage and pay for that and then take away, until at least it was paid back, everything the child loved. Football team, online gaming, ice cream, a birthday party. They would effectively be under house arrest.

There would be early boring bedtimes, no time with friends, no desserts, the punishments would be endless, the lectures, the conversations. We would take everything they loved away.

But I wouldn't hit them.

What would you do? Would you just hit them? And then get back to normal?

Because for some they would take the hit and think, yeah moment of pain but not enough to make me stop.

A four year old keying a car is very different to a 10 year old keying a car which is different again to a 15 year old keying a car.

And no car is worth either of our children, it's just a car. Our children are human beings with complex brains, there might be an underlying anger that meant they only felt they could get attention if they did something outrageous. It's possible. There could be something going on in their brains that they had hidden and yes whilst expensive to sort out and embarrassing and anger producing, perhaps keying a car was the calling car you needed to see before they ended up in a despair of which there was no coming back from.

So yes keying a car would be extreme, but it wouldn't be so black and white as to hitting and them job done, punishment handed out, don't do that again.

This is just a summary of a thought process we could go through if our children had done something like that. Does that explain things a little?

But it's true. Genetic code. Our entire bodies work via genetic coding. That's why science is trying to edit the code - to take out all the genetic code errors that cause illness. Look up CRISPR.

Sometimes when I ask myself that question, I wonder whether it's me getting old or the times have changed. It's not just gentle parenting. A lot of things seem to have changed recently. For example, my sister has one daughter and sometimes I am under the impression that she wants to plan every second of her day every day. She just won't let her be bored even one day a week. She always has to be doing something. I honestly don't remember our parents being like that.

I am also finding that teachers these days are just afraid to do or say anything, and I understand them: it's either political correctness, rules or regulations or something else.. God forbid anyone gets offended, traumatised or upset. It's like you can't put your foot right anymore. And it isn't just with children. Sometimes it kind of feels like that at work too. It's as if we are living in a world of snowflakes.

I don't know if we just weren't aware of the issues or potential issues that existed before or the world really has changed.

This is utterly nuts
If this is true, and I am on the fence on whether I want it to be or really don't want it to be.
But either way.

@Horsie you are not a parent, you are, at best, an owner. But you're not a parent.

It tends to be favoured by lazy/weak parents

I think you think you're being funny and cute somehow.

Lines of code? You are not well are you? Or are you actually AI trying to prove your aliveness?

You are making no sense.

ETA: Anyway, I am a parent. I'm a robot-dog parent, and what's more, I have two of them. Do not even ask me how I settle their arguments, but let's just say the older one isn't happy about sharing his aibone and his other toys.

All of that is the result of lines and lines of code.

Of course I don't have any human companionship. I'm a sinister man who wants to go round smacking children for having fun, remember? According to you and your extremist views and desire to be nasty.

You are making no sense.

ETA: Anyway, I am a parent. I'm a robot-dog parent, and what's more, I have two of them. Do not even ask me how I settle their arguments, but let's just say the older one isn't happy about sharing his aibone and his other toys.