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Partner doesn't help when our children are being a handful

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YesIWillHaveaGin · 05/11/2025 11:47

Feeling unsupported by my partner at the moment and want to gauge whether that's fair or if I'm being a perimenopausal witch.

I had a horrible bedtime with the kids last night that resulted in me losing my temper and shouting at them both to get into bed. I don't have many bedtimes like that with them but they had been hard work during bath time (constant screaming/shrieking, which they do a lot in the morning too. Constant mucking about/winding each other up while trying to do teeth, PJs on, reading etc). We always read but I actually threw the towel in last night as it was pointless. Admittedly I am perimenopausal and I don't have the patience that I used to but I think even if I wasn't I would have found last night hard.

While all of this was going on my partner who had just finished work (at home) was listening to it going on and stayed fully out of things. I work 3 nights a week and he does those bedtimes, so I understand that he doesn't get involved in bedtime when I'm home as he wants a break. But they were being awful and I expected him to come and help tackle what was going on behaviourly. I wasn't expecting him to help out with getting them ready. Instead he just stays in another room and listens to me getting more and more exasperated with them until I end up shouting at them.

For background he works from home 5 days a week officially from 9am - 7pm, but he spends most of the morning checking emails/taking very long comfort breaks/uninterrupted shower/walking the dog. He does do the kids packed lunches as I insisted he help with something after an argument but this is slowly getting delegated to the kids.

I lay out uniform, cook everyone breakfast, chase everyone to get ready, get ready myself etc. My 3 minute shower is always interrupted and for the 5 minutes that I do my makeup in my room the kids come into my bedroom shrieking and screaming. They are playing for the most part, but I could scream myself (and sometimes do) as it's the only time I have to myself and they decide to join me and scream. I often order them out of my bedroom but they continue shrieking somewhere else/come back in and my partner is usually engaged in one of his morning activities.

I don't mind doing most of the morning on my own - I actually find it easier, but what I do struggle with is his lack of support. Again if the kids are playing up in the morning he doesn't back me up - he can hear that I've asked them 6 times to put their socks on/brush teeth/get dressed etc. If he does get involved it will be a comment like "Put your socks on or your Mum will get angry". If the roles were reversed I'd say something like "Put your socks on because you've got school in 10 minutes and Daddy's asked you 6 times already."

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outerspacepotato · 05/11/2025 12:31

You work 20 hours a week, your kids are in school, but you only get 3 minutes to shower?

Time management needed.

Your husband is working 50 hours to your 20. You say he showers and does dog walks while he works. So take off an hour a day. He's still working double your hours.

When the kids are screaming and out of control, go ask him for help.

I think the two of you need to sit down and have a talk. He seems to think he only parents on certain days and that's not going to work unless you guys split up.

Sartre · 05/11/2025 12:30

Sorry, just kind of laughing at him feigning help by doing lunchboxes (which is a 2 minute job anyway) but now delegating the task to your 8 year old who does both!

He’s a bit useless isn’t he? But you’re letting him get away with it. He isn’t much of a parent or husband as it stands, he’s acting like a single man with noisy lodgers.

YesIWillHaveaGin · 05/11/2025 12:30

Grinsta · 05/11/2025 12:24

Ok so when you specifically asked him for help, in the moment last night, he said no? Or you didn't ask because you have this conversation a million times and he has made it clear that he will never help, but you expected him to spontaneously offer anyway? There is a communication or expectation gap somewhere.

I suspect you have a tough gig parenting with this man and this is really more about your whole set up than just last night.

Edited

He said "over to you" last night and when I brought it up this morning it resulted in an argument and him basically saying it's for you to deal with. Posted on here as I just needed another perspective. And yes it's definitely more about our whole set up and not just last night.

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ShodAndShadySenators · 05/11/2025 12:27

It's like your partner has divvied up parenting to be either your day or his day. We never did parenting like this, we were always both on duty all the time as a team.

Your partner's method of dealing with playing up also is irritating, using the threat of you getting angry rather than telling them the behaviour he wants to see. I wouldn't be happy with that. It's like those parents whose children are misbehaving in shops who say "You better not do X thing or the shop lady will be angry with you!"

He needs to step up. Parenting is best done pulling together as a team with a common aim. Children need consistent rules and parents as a united front to be most effective. And focus on sorting out that bloody screaming, it just winds everybody up and your neighbours probably hate you.

YesIWillHaveaGin · 05/11/2025 12:26

goforadrive · 05/11/2025 12:11

Mine do as well. They don’t apart; DD is quietly playing with toys as I type this. Together they do shriek and screech and scream. It does happen.

Problem with posts like this is that you always get people picking at little things that you weren’t posting about, like critiquing your shower or daring to put an egg on to boil which annoys me.

YANBU @YesIWillHaveaGin … I have to say though that when DH was WFH quite a lot after Covid I found it so, so stressful. It’s much easier when he’s in the office, it just is. DH being there but not there seems to stress us all out.

Thanks @goforadrive - ha ha yes, it wasn't really about an egg :)

I really wish my partner would go into the office :) It used to happen once a week and it makes such a difference. I appreciate coming straight out of his office into a tricky bedtime is stressful for him, but I wouldn't stay in another room if I heard them misbehaving majorly.

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Grinsta · 05/11/2025 12:24

Ok so when you specifically asked him for help, in the moment last night, he said no? Or you didn't ask because you have this conversation a million times and he has made it clear that he will never help, but you expected him to spontaneously offer anyway? There is a communication or expectation gap somewhere.

I suspect you have a tough gig parenting with this man and this is really more about your whole set up than just last night.

YesIWillHaveaGin · 05/11/2025 12:19

NET145 · 05/11/2025 12:08

They are his children he should be supportive end of!

That's my opinion too!

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YesIWillHaveaGin · 05/11/2025 12:15

BaconCheeses · 05/11/2025 11:57

How old are your kidd that they are simultaneously acting like toddlers and needing to be put to bed but packing their own lunches?

5 & 8 - daughter is very capable of making her own lunch but sometimes ends up doing brother's too.

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YesIWillHaveaGin · 05/11/2025 12:14

goforadrive · 05/11/2025 12:12

It’s about her DH, is possibly why.

They're 5 & 8.

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YesIWillHaveaGin · 05/11/2025 12:13

No5ChalksRoad · 05/11/2025 12:08

Why are they screaming and shrieking so much?

I don't really know - that's half my battle. I suspect they've raided their Halloween stash of sweets this week so I have hidden them away now. My daughter is a wind up merchant by nature.

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frontwoman001 · 05/11/2025 12:12

ForZanyAquaViewer · 05/11/2025 12:11

OP has written half a dozen comments and we still don’t know how old these kids are.

12 and 17
Throwing in my guess.

goforadrive · 05/11/2025 12:12

ForZanyAquaViewer · 05/11/2025 12:11

OP has written half a dozen comments and we still don’t know how old these kids are.

It’s about her DH, is possibly why.

ForZanyAquaViewer · 05/11/2025 12:12

YesIWillHaveaGin · 05/11/2025 12:11

Thanks @HappyNewTaxYear - that's good advice. Yes, I'm usually ordering them out of my bedroom when they do that. I'll say it in a reasonable tone but end up shouting at them as they can't hear the reasonable tone what with the screaming.

How old are they?

ForZanyAquaViewer · 05/11/2025 12:11

OP has written half a dozen comments and we still don’t know how old these kids are.

goforadrive · 05/11/2025 12:11

No5ChalksRoad · 05/11/2025 12:08

Why are they screaming and shrieking so much?

Mine do as well. They don’t apart; DD is quietly playing with toys as I type this. Together they do shriek and screech and scream. It does happen.

Problem with posts like this is that you always get people picking at little things that you weren’t posting about, like critiquing your shower or daring to put an egg on to boil which annoys me.

YANBU @YesIWillHaveaGin … I have to say though that when DH was WFH quite a lot after Covid I found it so, so stressful. It’s much easier when he’s in the office, it just is. DH being there but not there seems to stress us all out.

YesIWillHaveaGin · 05/11/2025 12:11

HappyNewTaxYear · 05/11/2025 12:00

How old are they?

I’d be putting a stop to all screaming and shrieking right away.

How do you speak to them? Firm, stern voice giving commands rather than asking? (Recommended!)

I would also change their routine depending on how old they are. They shouldn’t have time or opportunity to be messing around. Can they do their teeth separately etc?

I think the discipline needs to be a lot better with or without a partner.

Thanks @HappyNewTaxYear - that's good advice. Yes, I'm usually ordering them out of my bedroom when they do that. I'll say it in a reasonable tone but end up shouting at them as they can't hear the reasonable tone what with the screaming.

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ShenandoahRiver · 05/11/2025 12:09

What age are they?
I feel sorry for your neighbours with all the shrieking and screaming (if you have neighbours).

No5ChalksRoad · 05/11/2025 12:08

Why are they screaming and shrieking so much?

NET145 · 05/11/2025 12:08

They are his children he should be supportive end of!

YesIWillHaveaGin · 05/11/2025 12:08

YesIWillHaveaGin · 05/11/2025 12:05

I have time to do both those things and we walk to school so I shower first. Time isn't the issue.

I work 20 hours/week.

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YesIWillHaveaGin · 05/11/2025 12:07

Grinsta · 05/11/2025 12:02

There is a LOT spiralling round in your head.

Did you try asking if he could come and give you a hand? Do you often end up lending a hand when he has a difficult bedtime?

I'm at work when he does bedtimes with them so no, but I 100% back him up if the kids are being naughty/a handful etc.

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YesIWillHaveaGin · 05/11/2025 12:05

TwinkleTwinkleLittleBatgirl · 05/11/2025 11:52

Why are you only having a 3 minute shower then make up on every morning? Wouldn’t it be more restful to do that once home from school run @YesIWillHaveaGin ?
is it only the 3 nights a week you work ?

I have time to do both those things and we walk to school so I shower first. Time isn't the issue.

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YesIWillHaveaGin · 05/11/2025 12:03

Sillysoggyspaniel · 05/11/2025 11:51

Slightly less aggressive than the above poster, but the same sentiment - have you spoken to him about how he can best support you when they are playing up? My DH has said he doesn't want me coming in and helping as he then feels undermined.

Yes I have spoken to him about it and his response is that he does it on the other nights so over to me. Again I've made it clear that I don't expect help for those bedtimes, but I'd like him to back me up when they're being a handful.

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Grinsta · 05/11/2025 12:02

There is a LOT spiralling round in your head.

Did you try asking if he could come and give you a hand? Do you often end up lending a hand when he has a difficult bedtime?

YesIWillHaveaGin · 05/11/2025 12:01

Dacatspjs · 05/11/2025 11:51

Cooking breakfast? You're really doing a cooked breakfast every morning, or are you just bunging cereal in a bowl? Laying out uniforms? How long does that take.

I think you are dismissive of his work-"just doing emails" and bigging up your contribution.

It sounds like you both work hard, and have a lot going on. Dismissing his full time job is completely unfair though.

I didn't say he "just does emails" - the point I was making is that he spends a large chunk of the morning doing work before he officially starts working. That's fair enough but he's not present much with us and when he is, I'd rather feel supported by him with their behaviour/dragging their feet.

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