17yr old boy found guilty of child abuse

Saying it isn't worth the risk is not the same as saying all blokes are peados.

It’s grim, but the study says this number of 1 in 10 includes technological sex abuse, ie accessing child abuse images.

In addition, a “child” includes children up to age 17, the rate of offending against nursery age children is much lower.

Finally the “large study” was actually a study with a teeny tiny sample size of 1,945 men.

I know that men are way more likely to do that but you can't just say people who don't assume all blokes in early years care are paedos were wrong.

I think most women understand that men are more of a risk to babies and children than other women but I don’t think it’s likely there will be some sort of law change banning men from these sort of jobs. It’s normally because of cases like this that new safeguarding measures are put in place, will it ever be 100% safe, sadly probably not.

No it's not.

That's like saying we were all wrong to trust that women are safe to work with babies after the Vanessa George case?

There have been women caught sexually abusing children in a nursery. A woman has very recently been in the news for physically abusing children in a nursery.
Would it be fair for me to tell parents they are wrong to put their DC in nursery at all?

A few years back, I was at a lecture by a renowned lecturer / author in child protection and he said that if he was getting a babysitter then the easiest way to keep a child safe was to only use female babysitters. If 90 % of perpetrators are male then it is obvious that statistically a female is safer and I struggle as to why people refuse to see that.

This teen was 16 when he was working in a nursery.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-57257664.amp

Of course she would mind.

There isn't a mother in the whole world who would choose a random man to look after her children over a random woman.

I know very few men and know 100% they are safe around my child, or I'd not leave them with them would I. I don't leave them with them anyway.

You? I was talking about me.

There will be many who do it for those reasons and I know a few myself, but just one half conscious one can end a child's life. I've worked in nurseries.

Of course it's not all men that abuse
But the statistics show it is overwhelmingly more likely to be a man - whether this is a parent, a sibling, a partner, a professional, a stranger, a friend......etc

Maybe @pottylolly knows of others but I also only remember Vanessa George in the last couple of decades.

Whereas men:
Thomas Waller: A teenage nursery worker from Surrey was convicted in November 2025 of raping and sexually abusing children as young as three. His offences were deemed serious enough for a potential prison sentence of up to 17 years when sentenced at a crown court.
Andrew Evans: In December 2024, a former nursery worker from East Sussex was jailed for 14 years and four months for sexually assaulting young children at a nursery in Crowborough. He pleaded guilty to two counts of penetration of a girl under 13, one count of assault by touching, and one count of assault by penetration of a boy under 13.
Craig Ordish: A nursery worker from Staffordshire was jailed for 10 years in April 2024 for sexual offences involving children, including sexual assault, inciting sexual activity, and possessing indecent images.
Jayden McCarthy: Jailed in July 2021 for 11 years and six months for raping and sexually assaulting children at a nursery in Torbay. CCTV footage was used as evidence in his conviction
And currently one on trial:
Bristol-based nursery worker charged with rape of toddlers - BBC News https://share.google/Len0TtV4dRsO28jFp

The only woman convicted of CSA I’ve heard about was Vanessa George, the publicity about her was intense. But women like this are very rare, so it’s highly unlikely to happen again. The other abuse cases I’ve heard about have been of physical/emotional abuse nor sexual. And one recent murder of a 9 month old baby (convicted of manslaughter), which was talked about at length on the other thread.

Abuse by mothers/stepmothers is sadly not all that unusual, though again physical/emotional abuse not sexual. I have heard of mothers sexually abusing children but it’s vanishingly rare.

Is it? How many women are convicted?

To be fair most child sexual abuse at nurseries is still committed by white women in this country. This boy is disgusting but very few men ever choose this career in a caregiving capacity.

Fine OP. You feel the same way. What of it?

Why is it obtuse? A lot of fathers do sexually abuse children (including my own F). A child is much more likely to get sexually abused by their father (even more so by a stepfather) than by a male nursery worker.

And yet there are men who are very loving towards children and no threat at all. I’ve never had any reason to be suspicious of my DH, but then he’s always been scrupulously careful to ask me to clean our DDs’ private areas. We surely wouldn’t want to deprive children of a decent loving parent who happens to be male.

I don’t know how I feel about male nursery workers, I’m not comfortable as I’m sure paedophiles do target such roles. But saying that a young man is ‘creepy’ because he loves being around babies and toddlers is very much uncalled for. Plenty of men love being dads/uncles and are also thoroughly trustworthy.

That guy is clearly a wrong 'un but like lots of stuff these days, it's not considered acceptable to point out the obvious. So our children suffer.

More men than women abuse full stop, so where do you draw the line? For me no one should be left unsupervised to be able to carry out such atrocities.