AIBU to feedback to school about teachers use of glottal stops

If the teacher has a Scottish accent, then yes, they will be exposed to a Scottish accent.
would you complain if a Scottish person was teaching them?!

You draw the line at what they are likely to hear in everyday life where they currently live with the teacher they currently have.

"Lots of Scottish people pronounce letters properly, thanks all the same."

Where did I say it was the whole of Scotland? Large areas of Scotland use glottal stops. I didn't say it was the entire country. Can you list all the areas which do and don't? No. Of course that's ridiculous. It's you who is saying these parts of Scotland speak improperly, not me. That's the obvious snobbery I highlighted. And who were you thanking? Yourself? Your comment was snobby and sarcastic. Own it.

OP all the kids living in areas where a glottal stop is sometimes substituted for a word medial /t/ need to learn that that sound in that position is written as a < t >. It doesn’t matter whether it’s their first language or a second language. If it’s a variation they are likely to hear sometimes or frequently (which it is because it’s part of their teacher’s speech) then they need to learn about it. If they watch American tv shows they will also figure out that the American flapped /t/ is another variant of the same phoneme.

I didn't make 'a sarcastic remark about improper pronunciation', I corrected misconception about the whole of Scotland. HTH

If you’re teaching phonics you really have to make the effort to anúnciate the sounds correctly.

When I taught in secondary, I made sure the children knew which words and phrases they needed to use for interviews etc. Regional accents are of course very important, but so is learning to spell and speak correctly in many situations. It's the school's job to teach that.

The fact people in the "estuary" can't distinguish between sounds is enough of a reason for teachers to speak properly. It matters in the big wide world.

Your sarcastic remark about improper pronunciation was snobby

We owe it to the children to give them the best chance to succeed

Just say what you mean, which is that you think estuary accents make you sound poor, thick and common.

Unfortunately, when all your teachers and peers speak that way, no one cares. It's only when you leave Essex you realise everyone thinks you're thick.

I've tried to iron mine out but it slips when I'm getting enthusiastic or thinking about something. Fortunately my colleagues don't care because I'm really fucking clever 😀

Just to be clear @TalomaPaith - I haven’t once ‘degraded’ your spelling and grammar.

You started a Mumsnet thread asking if it would be unreasonable to feedback to a teacher about the use of a glottal stop. A large number of posters said you would be unreasonable, and it started an interesting debate about language and speech and their relationship to class and social mobility, via a discussion about what was ‘correct’.

You doubled down, as is your right, but you must be aware that on any discussion on Mumsnet about ‘correct’ use of language and speech, any hint of hypocrisy will be picked up. Someone did that to you, I think unfairly, and instead of engaging with them fairly, you made an absolutely abhorrent ad hominem attack about benefits, and tbh at that moment I lost any sympathy I had for you. You demonstrated that your first reaction when under pressure is to punch down, and that made me re-evaluate the whole thread. It’s not in good faith.

When you came back on, you again started calling people dense and boring when they disagreed with you. I fully expect you to have a go at me, and you might be right. I’m sitting on my sofa arguing with someone who is clearly not engaging in good faith, so that makes me complicit.

To paraphrase Wendy Cope, the earth will go on being round.

I complained that my DC were being taught to say Haitch

Head agreed with me 😆

I'm just back from an event at our local secondary school. Not only did the HT say, "So much work has went into this event" but also "There is so much yous should be proud of"

I will of course be sending a strongly worded email to the Director of Education in the morning.

You're losing the plot now. I think you should go to bed.

How does one use a glottal stop on an app in the bathroom???

Ahahaha!!! Hahahahaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!! This is too good. News just in - people speak differently! Oh but not differently like with glottal stops in the middle of words - that’s bad different. The way I use language is good different. The way other people use language is an excuse to make revolting comments about social welfare and class. Goddit? Right.

The irony of this statement!!!

Yes, if I believe that my assessment is true based on the things they've been saying. You asked how long someone was claiming benefits for, ffs, just because they dared to disagree with you!

i presume you are explicitly aware of the phoneme that makes the R sound at the start of words. But in an RP accent this phoneme is not pronounced at the end of words. Do you think that is “lazy” and “choosing not to use” that phoneme in that position?

As opposed to bullying a teacher who probably works a 60 hour week?