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DH always complaining about or wiggling out of taking DD to her swimming lessons

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Jensagi · 04/11/2025 19:52

DH and I have 2 Dads, DD1 is 4 and in reception, DD2 is 2. I work 3 days a week Monday, Wednesday and Friday, I do the majority of school/nursery runs. DH works full time, from the office Monday-Thursday and generally from home on Fridays. He gets an early finish on Fridays so picks DD up from school then gets DD from nursery.
Currently DD1 does 3 activities, swimming, ballet and tennis, she loves tennis and was begging to go more so she goes both on a Tuesday and Thursday. Swimming on a Wednesday and Ballet on Saturday mornings. I know this might seem like too much to some but she really enjoys it and even now half a term into reception doesn’t seem too tried by it.
The deal DH and I had was I’d do tennis and ballet runs, he’d do the swimming run. Swimming is at 6pm, he finishes at 4.30 and generally it takes him 45 minutes or so to get home, with 15-20 minute drive to swimming it is a tight turn around especially with traffic. I make sure DD is ready to go so he can arrive home, pop DD in the car and go. They don’t need to arrive too early as I put DD’s swimming stuff on under clothes. I feed the girls as soon as we all get home on Wednesdays around 5. I have DDs bath run for them getting home so he doesn’t need to do any of the prep before swimming or sort her much after.
Anyway DH seems to have got into a habit of conveniently booking work dinners for Wednesday nights, or if he can’t coming home and complaining about taking DD. He is effectively the client in the work dinners so does get quite a lot of say over when they are, and before DD started school they were more often on Mondays than any other day.
He has again this week booked a dinner for tomorrow and it frustrates me so much! I find it much harder to take DD to swimming with DD2, the kids play area at our gym closes at 6 so during the lesson DD2 is quite agitated and wants to run around but can’t. Also just getting DD1 dried etc, not to mention it messing up the bedtime routine as I haven’t even run the bath by the time we get home around 6.50, so have to run the bath, bathe both girls, do stories/milk/bedtime. Then DH just swans in at 9/10pm no stress in the world.
I understand it might sometimes be inevitable that he has to work late or go to a dinner on Wednesdays but I think it being more or less every other week is taking the piss a bit.
DH hides behind it being work, but I know he does have some control over the day of the week these are.
I’ve suggested we move DDs swimming to a Friday after school, they could go straight from school 4-4.30, DD2 could stay in nursery until I could pick her up at 4.30, but he doesn’t want this as he likes their “daddy daughter time” on Friday afternoons where he gets both girls and takes them for a treat, I’m fine with this but I feel like it has to be one or the other as too much of the hobby runs fall on me otherwise.

AIBU?

OP posts:
PullTheBricksDown · 04/11/2025 21:52

RandomMess · 04/11/2025 19:56

Tell he either makes Wednesdays happen or it moves to Friday or she quits swimming.

This. Say 'if we end up with any more Wednesday dinner clashes then I'm just going to move swimming to Fridays'. Will be interesting to see what happens after that.

whyaretheylikethis · 04/11/2025 21:46

He knows what he’s doing. He doesn’t want to do the swimming so he covers it up with ‘work’ knowing you will pick up the slack and ‘work’ is a more valid excuse.

tell him he starts doing it or you move the day.

im so sick of men picking and choosing when they want to parent.

whatisheupto · 04/11/2025 21:37

Just read your update OP.

So he gets two women to step up and do the job he had promised to do, instead of getting on with it himself.

TWO women inconvenienced so that he can go and wine and dine.

Can you imagine this if genders were reversed?

Sorry but it makes my blood boil.

I think it's a mistake not to pull him up on this OP. You're teaching him that not only can he wriggle out of responsibilities, but his mummy and wife will run to help him do so. Expect to see this happening on repeat if you don't challenge it now.

Jensagi · 04/11/2025 21:31

ThisOldThang · 04/11/2025 21:16

I guess all pools are different, but the beauty of an early morning lesson is that plenty of people do miss lessons. My son has sometimes had one-to-one lessons and it's usually no more than four kids.

Are your discounted lessons actually any cheaper than the public pool's standard pricing?

I'd make enquiries for the first lesson of the day on Saturdays.

With regards to your current set-up, why are you messing around with your daughter's hair if you're just going to put her straight in the bath at home? Why does she need a bath that night? Just skip it.

I can see why your husband can't be bothered with rushing home, not even getting his foot in the door and then having to turn around and take your daughter swimming. Has he even had a chance to eat, take a dump, etc?

Edited

They work out about the same price. As for DDs hair we need to wash it after swimming, like I said she has quite curly hair that takes a while to dry so it makes sense to wash it while it’s already wet, not mention the chlorine leaves a scent DD doesn’t really like and makes it feel quite dry and frizzy. DH doesn’t have to deal with her hair though, he just has to pop her in the car and bring her home and I sort her hair. Early morning also just wouldn’t be ideal as we have a family meal every Friday night and DD tends to stay up quite late and doesn’t wake up until 9 or so on Saturdays which leaves just enough time to get her ready and out the door to ballet, not to mention the wet hair I mentioned above. I think it might be easier if your child has short hair or hair that dries quickly to pick different swimming times.
In general DH gets home at about 5.20 on the Wednesday and doesn’t need to leave until 5.40 so he has time to get changed etc.
DH and I tend to eat together alone on a Wednesday once the girls have gone to bed if he isn’t out for dinner (we do family meals every other day of the week) so eating isn’t something he’d do in that time anyway.

OP posts:
Lucy5678 · 04/11/2025 21:26

ThisOldThang · 04/11/2025 21:04

@Jensagi

Why don't you do swimming on a Saturday morning at the local communal pool? My eldest son starts his lesson at 8:15 am.

@ other people

Why do so many posters think that swimming is the worst activity for a parent? It seems pretty simple to me. We drive to the pool, my son has his lesson, he gets changed and we go home. It's almost zero effort.

For me, it’s worst because I have to rush home after school, get child to eat snack in speedy fashion, get child fully undressed and into costume with clothes on top, remember a bunch of bits of kit like goggles, drive to pool, get child stripped, sit cheek by jowl in an overheated, overcrowded and very noisy viewing area surrounded by other people’s annoying noisy toddlers and phone conversations, watch the utter tedium of front crawl widths with a float for thirty minutes, then collect dripping child, queue for grotty shower surrounded again by other people’s annoying toddlers, attempt to get my child’s hair washed in grotty shower, put clothes on damp child, drive home, dry hair, wash and dry kit and make a late dinner with hangry child.

Cubs, chess club etc are great as the child only changes clothing once, stays dry, there’s no hair fussing or wet kit to wash and, best of all, I can drop and go or wait in the car. Swimming I’m required by the club to stay in the viewing area of the pool for the entire lesson until my child is at least secondary school age. Even team sports where I also have to stay at least a football match is more interesting than swimming to watch.

I will grant you it’s better now with a KS2 age child that can do some bits themselves than when they were age 4 and still needed help even to get their costume on.

Koalaman · 04/11/2025 21:23

We are a family who do loads of extracurriculars as well. At that age we managed it by doing 2 clubs after school that needed ferrying (I did both as I work very pt, with younger dc in tow) and 3 other clubs after school which were run by the school, so no ferrying and a slightly longer school day for dc1, but not too tiring. I wouldn't have done 4 activities after school that needed transporting, it was hard enough with just those 2 clubs and it was because they offered a particularly good programme.

We do swimming early on a weekend morning rather than after school, but that's partly due to the distance to our pool which means it would be too tiring after school. I have never minded doing it though and don't consider it the worst activity (I find music school much worse, with instrument lesson, orchestra and musicianship crammed into one evening!).

Busy families around here often use nannies to ferry to clubs, which is pricey but takes away a lot of the stress and it makes sense for dual working parents.

whatisheupto · 04/11/2025 21:18

JustMarriedBecca · 04/11/2025 20:06

Sorry but if you work 3 days and he works FT, do swimming on a day you have off and go straight from school. Onesie on straight after swimming and throw both kids in the bath at normal time for bed.

Yes swimming is non negotiable but you don't work full time. He does. If you are supposed to be facilitating his career by going part time then you have to understand that BD activities necessary to further that career are also important.

No one I know does BD on a Monday. It's all Wednesday and Thursday nights as they are the day most people are in the office. Monday and Fridays are usually the WFH days in most places.

I'm willing to bet OP works a lot more hours than her DH.
If he can't manage swimming once a week with just one child, I doubt he's managing much of the laundry, cleaning, cooking, food planning and shopping and all the rest of the mental load we all know so well.

I also doubt she gets to go out for dinner very often.

You need to have it out with him OP. And if all else fails, I'd make the new deal that he has to take both DDs with him to swimming as you need to go out for "insert preferred activity" and it makes wonderful sense to do it while they're all at swimming.

ThisOldThang · 04/11/2025 21:16

I guess all pools are different, but the beauty of an early morning lesson is that plenty of people do miss lessons. My son has sometimes had one-to-one lessons and it's usually no more than four kids.

Are your discounted lessons actually any cheaper than the public pool's standard pricing?

I'd make enquiries for the first lesson of the day on Saturdays.

With regards to your current set-up, why are you messing around with your daughter's hair if you're just going to put her straight in the bath at home? Why does she need a bath that night? Just skip it.

I can see why your husband can't be bothered with rushing home, not even getting his foot in the door and then having to turn around and take your daughter swimming. Has he even had a chance to eat, take a dump, etc?

WelshRabBite · 04/11/2025 21:14

So your DH has offloaded his parenting responsibilities onto you OP and his mother, while he spends his time wining and dining.

Some men are just so predictable aren’t they?

”If I become unreliable at this parenting task for long enough, the women in my life will do it so I don’t have to and I can just enjoy my free time.”

Jensagi · 04/11/2025 21:12

BlueMum16 · 04/11/2025 21:10

So he's swerving swimming on most Wednesdays to go for works dinner and swerving family life on a Thursday to go for drinks for many hours.

You do all other clubs.

Please tell me he has your youngest DD while you take oldest to clubs?

When is your time?

He needs to move swimming to a Friday and if he's not looking after DD2 on other nights he needs to start.

He has DD2 while I take DD1 to ballet but not for tennis as he is still at work during tennis lessons, however I don’t mind this as much as DD2 loves playing in the play area and play park at the gym where DD1s lessons are so it doesn’t feel as bad.
He does have the girls anytime I want to go out with friends and is generally a good dad, I don’t resent the work drinks on a Thursday as long as he actually pulls his weight on other days as I get that it’s part of his office culture, and a good opportunity for him to spend time with friends and have some fun.

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Zanatdy · 04/11/2025 21:12

I did years of picking up DC from ASC and straight to swimming, showered, cook dinner, homework bed. Yes he works full time, but he comes home and sure his dinner is waiting and he doesn’t need to do much else. Typical he’s got a woman (his mother) stepping in to save him from such hardships.

BlueMum16 · 04/11/2025 21:10

Jensagi · 04/11/2025 20:23

I only work term time so I do get lots of special time with the girls when I’m off. When he complains about it he claims it makes him feel awkward as the other parents are all mums and that he is too tired to do it after a long day at work (conveniently not too tired to go out for dinner though or to go out for work drinks nearly every Thursday after the same length of work day!)

So he's swerving swimming on most Wednesdays to go for works dinner and swerving family life on a Thursday to go for drinks for many hours.

You do all other clubs.

Please tell me he has your youngest DD while you take oldest to clubs?

When is your time?

He needs to move swimming to a Friday and if he's not looking after DD2 on other nights he needs to start.

Jensagi · 04/11/2025 21:07

ThisOldThang · 04/11/2025 21:04

@Jensagi

Why don't you do swimming on a Saturday morning at the local communal pool? My eldest son starts his lesson at 8:15 am.

@ other people

Why do so many posters think that swimming is the worst activity for a parent? It seems pretty simple to me. We drive to the pool, my son has his lesson, he gets changed and we go home. It's almost zero effort.

We get discounted swimming lessons through our gym membership and the ratio is better than at our local pool. Not to mention our local pool has a wait list that is massive.
Maybe a little easier if you have a boy but I think with DD it’s a combination of getting dried/changed and she has curly hair that takes a while to dry and needs to be washed and combed properly or it dries frizzy that makes it more annoying than say tennis where we can just put her hair in a ponytail and off she goes.

OP posts:
ThisOldThang · 04/11/2025 21:04

@Jensagi

Why don't you do swimming on a Saturday morning at the local communal pool? My eldest son starts his lesson at 8:15 am.

@ other people

Why do so many posters think that swimming is the worst activity for a parent? It seems pretty simple to me. We drive to the pool, my son has his lesson, he gets changed and we go home. It's almost zero effort.

Jensagi · 04/11/2025 21:04

Jellybunny56 · 04/11/2025 21:00

The thing is OP there’s a lot of “this is right for US”, but it’s not, is it? It’s not right for your family because you’re having to post here for advice on tips and tricks to force your husband to take her to one of these activities having outlined that it’s a busy day of work, a quick turn around etc.

The very fact you’re even on here at all tonight questioning this means this doesn’t work for your family at all.

I was more responding to the “it’s too much for a child, she needs more free play” in terms of its right for DD. The only person who isn’t a fan is DH, but frankly it could be just swimming and he still wouldn’t want to take DD which I think is the core issue. Plenty of parents work full time and still manage their children’s activities.
Anyway we have 2 options sorted if DH has to work his mum has replied and said she will come over and stay with DD2 and give DD2 her bath, if DH doesn’t have to work I’ll take DD1 swimming and he will stay with DD2.
All’s well that ends well.

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Jellybunny56 · 04/11/2025 21:00

Jensagi · 04/11/2025 20:57

I guess I don’t view it as really being that much time. School at her age still has a lot of free play time, weekends lean unstructured and it adds up to about 3.5 hours of activities a week, all of which DD loves. She doesn’t have adhd that we know of but I think it’s possible for neurotypical children to also just enjoy being active. It’s a child by child thing. I’d understand this more if we were forcing her, she was permanently exhausted or she didn’t enjoy it. DD is full of beans and still has plenty of energy even after the activities so I think it’s right for us. Obviously everyone is entitled to parent differently and I don’t think this is one of those parenting decisions where choosing differently makes you a bad parent or a worse parent than someone who does less/more than you do. We all know our children, their needs and their abilities best.

The thing is OP there’s a lot of “this is right for US”, but it’s not, is it? It’s not right for your family because you’re having to post here for advice on tips and tricks to force your husband to take her to one of these activities having outlined that it’s a busy day of work, a quick turn around etc.

The very fact you’re even on here at all tonight questioning this means this doesn’t work for your family at all.

Jensagi · 04/11/2025 20:59

Jellybunny56 · 04/11/2025 20:53

For me this is a conversation to have with your husband, if he doesn’t want to take her or commit around work and you also can’t do it or don’t want to do it on top of the other clubs then the simple answer is that swimming lessons get cancelled.

He may pay lip service in agreeing with you about these clubs and swimming being essential etc etc but his actions tell the truth- he doesn’t want to do it, you can’t force him, and a 4 year old honestly does not need hobbies 4 days a week anyway.

If you think swimming is important and don’t want her to miss out then you’ll have to take it on.

Ironically when I suggested we cancel another activity DH said no, DD really enjoys them etc.
We have spoke about it more tonight and he’s going to call his mum to see if she will be able to have DD2 while I take DD1 this week and potentially as a more permanent set up.

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Lucy5678 · 04/11/2025 20:58

I do 99% of children’s hobby running around in our household - swimming lessons are the worst kids activity. The baths, early dinner, changing, kit drying etc just makes it worse, so he has it easy not doing those bits. That said I think a 6pm swimming lesson for a reception child is insane and having to take a two year old along even worse. I’d just tell him it’s moving to Fridays at a sensible hour and he can take them both, then take both for a treat before or after.

Ignore the posters saying it’s too much - it’s obviously not it she’s happy and not exhausted. My DC is a very extrovert child who likes to be busy and even when doing a different activity every day of the week wanted to start an eighth and ninth. Plus it’s swimming ie a physical activity with a fair amount of fun involved, it’s not maths tutoring! For an awful lot of kids I suspect that “three hours unstructured time” involves screens, I’d say swimming and ballet and birthday parties are all better uses of her time than that.

RandomMess · 04/11/2025 20:57

I think you options are clear tbh he makes Wednesdays happen or you are switching to Fridays.

Jensagi · 04/11/2025 20:57

arcticpandas · 04/11/2025 20:49

Exactly. I think some parents are afraid of not having their children's time occupied with activities. When does your 4 year old has the time to just have unstructured play? I do think this is ott for such a young child. Well, for any child really. Does she have adhd and needs to be moving non-stop?

I guess I don’t view it as really being that much time. School at her age still has a lot of free play time, weekends lean unstructured and it adds up to about 3.5 hours of activities a week, all of which DD loves. She doesn’t have adhd that we know of but I think it’s possible for neurotypical children to also just enjoy being active. It’s a child by child thing. I’d understand this more if we were forcing her, she was permanently exhausted or she didn’t enjoy it. DD is full of beans and still has plenty of energy even after the activities so I think it’s right for us. Obviously everyone is entitled to parent differently and I don’t think this is one of those parenting decisions where choosing differently makes you a bad parent or a worse parent than someone who does less/more than you do. We all know our children, their needs and their abilities best.

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AutumnAllTheWay · 04/11/2025 20:54

You need more family time

To play and chill out

Jellybunny56 · 04/11/2025 20:53

For me this is a conversation to have with your husband, if he doesn’t want to take her or commit around work and you also can’t do it or don’t want to do it on top of the other clubs then the simple answer is that swimming lessons get cancelled.

He may pay lip service in agreeing with you about these clubs and swimming being essential etc etc but his actions tell the truth- he doesn’t want to do it, you can’t force him, and a 4 year old honestly does not need hobbies 4 days a week anyway.

If you think swimming is important and don’t want her to miss out then you’ll have to take it on.

Jensagi · 04/11/2025 20:52

Calliopespa · 04/11/2025 20:46

Well it's worth bearing in mind.

The figure I see a lot is three hours free play each day. That's hard to achieve with school, commutes, bath-time, suppertime, activity.

I’d argue it’s really difficult for most children to get 3 hours free play outside of school hours every day. If it weren’t for my favourably work hours DD could easily be in after school club which at least at our school has some element of structure to it until 5/6. I am not someone that’s inclined to focus on exact metrics on a daily basis as I don’t think it’s helpful, I feel like if my DDs are getting lots of structure free time on the weekends, school holidays, at least some time most evenings etc. then over the course of time it all adds up. I’d be keen to see any studies though which recommend 3 hours as I’d love to know why that is the cut off, from my unknowing perspective it feels a tad arbitrary.

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arcticpandas · 04/11/2025 20:49

Tammygirl12 · 04/11/2025 20:45

It just sounds a bit intense. Dropping some activities would solve your issue. There’s years and years of activities ahead of you and both your kids

Exactly. I think some parents are afraid of not having their children's time occupied with activities. When does your 4 year old has the time to just have unstructured play? I do think this is ott for such a young child. Well, for any child really. Does she have adhd and needs to be moving non-stop?

Calliopespa · 04/11/2025 20:46

Jensagi · 04/11/2025 20:30

Even if we got rid of say tennis (which would break DDs heart), our gym doesn’t have lessons for DDs age on at better times on the days I don’t work. DDs age is only available Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday afternoon. We don’t do Saturday afternoons as we tend to find there are so many birthday parties, family lunches, activities we want to take the kids to etc. on at the same time.
Getting rid of tennis would just upset DD and not actually help as tennis works really well for us right now (the kids play area is still open at the gym so I can just take DD2 to play there while DD1 has her lessons).
I know not everyone agrees with this but I built a career out of a childhood hobby I loved, I know my children probably won’t do the same but I’m so grateful my parents supported me with my hobbies.
I don’t mind having busy nights, I do just want DH to pull his weight.

Well it's worth bearing in mind.

The figure I see a lot is three hours free play each day. That's hard to achieve with school, commutes, bath-time, suppertime, activity.