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Offered council house in a not very good area?

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rhinnq · 04/11/2025 19:41

I got a call today from the council to advise me that I have been offered a property.

The property isn't in a very good area to be honest and the rent is on level with a private rent.

I am not sure if I should take it.

AIBU?

OP posts:
Mrsnothingthanks · 06/11/2025 23:38

@Lavender14 Unfortunately not as we would be deemed to be able to afford to find another private rental. Of which there are none suitable in our surrounding area (my mum does all school runs so I can work and she lives in same village). We'd be scuppered.

Lavender14 · 06/11/2025 23:34

bestcatlife · 06/11/2025 08:05

I always find these threads hilarious.. if you want a council house so much, give up your owned property and move into temporary accommodation (much the same as where migrants stay, hotels etc) live there for months or years, until you finally get an offer - and you can't turn this down or you'll be on the streets, even if it is in the roughest part of town..!

If you have a mortgage you have an asset, you have choice, you have something to leave your children. People in social housing do not have that.

Lots of people in social housing have mortgages on those homes which they will one day own. Also legacy tenancies exist within social housing where tenancy could be passed to an adult child or a child in trust to still ensure them secure accommodation. Can't get that with a rental.

Lavender14 · 06/11/2025 23:27

Mrsnothingthanks · 06/11/2025 20:03

My husband and I don't qualify for social housing - on a good month we earn about £3.5k between us but well over 1k of that goes on our private rent. The only other
income we receive is CB.
We've been privately renting for over a decade now as we simply have no choice - we need a minimum of a 3-bed and we simply could not get a suitable mortgage.
We are not protected by the new legislation re rentals as that only applies to SH, and we could be served notice at any minute. Always a worry with a 5 year-old.
I love my house and our village, but I always worry we could lose it all at any point.

If you were served eviction through no fault of your own you'd be entitled to social housing.

Lavender14 · 06/11/2025 23:24

Mrsnothingthanks · 06/11/2025 22:38

@rhinnq Burglars will often go for affluent areas. When I was married to my ex we lived in a wealthy area and there were nice cars on drives. We were broken in to one night whilst we were asleep in bed - they were looking for car keys. It was incredibly traumatising as my sons were tiny.
I now live in a less affluent area, have a shitty car on the drive, and feel so much safer.

This depends on the intentions of the intruder. Lots of disillusioned teens will look for older cars with less advanced alarm systems if its just for a joy ride as opposed to more organised crime. Its 6 of 1 really.

Lavender14 · 06/11/2025 23:22

FlyMeSomewhere · 06/11/2025 07:48

So they are to save you money are they? This is why homeless people are screwed even if they are motivated to get off the street because these properties are occupied by people like you who are doing it out of greed! You can afford to private rent but abuse the system just to save money! There are many people that can't get a roof over their head any other way than by council housing and there's waiting lists of tens of thousands in every area because people who can afford private rent are too greedy to do so! Where else did you think people in genuine shit situations were meant to live! Shameful!

"just to avoid having the responsibility & cost of private renting?"

You're conflating two separate issues.

For lots of people (as op has demonstrated in her post) the cost of social and private housing are on a par. So the issue of finance is a non issue. Because in theory anyone who can afford to accept social housing would also be able to afford reasonably priced rentals.

The issue social housing addresses is SUSTAINABLE tenancies, where people have more security, can properly embed into a community and take ownership of their community and for people with added vulnerability or trauma or displacement (which we know op has experienced) they can feel safer knowing they are secure tenants. The responsibility for social housing and rental are the exact same- contracts are very similar around maintenance, payment and behaviour.

We also have many homeless who would not be ready for social housing as they have other complex needs that would mean they would struggle to maintain and sustain a tenancy so it's not as simple as just offering any homeless person a roof. Op obviously has points and will be offered based on points merit.

There's a lot of misconceptions on this thread about the purpose of social housing and tenants.

Mrsnothingthanks · 06/11/2025 22:38

@rhinnq Burglars will often go for affluent areas. When I was married to my ex we lived in a wealthy area and there were nice cars on drives. We were broken in to one night whilst we were asleep in bed - they were looking for car keys. It was incredibly traumatising as my sons were tiny.
I now live in a less affluent area, have a shitty car on the drive, and feel so much safer.

rhinnq · 06/11/2025 20:05

My brother in law & sister in law live about 15 minutes down the road in a different town which is considered very posh and upmarket and even on their road there has been multiple burglaries and break in's at night time.

Apparently gangs from this town are now going to the posh town and doing the masked break in's, it's getting really bad.

It would be amazing to move back it really would be a dream come true to be close to friends and family again but it is the safety aspect that really puts me of accepting the house.

OP posts:
Mrsnothingthanks · 06/11/2025 20:03

My husband and I don't qualify for social housing - on a good month we earn about £3.5k between us but well over 1k of that goes on our private rent. The only other
income we receive is CB.
We've been privately renting for over a decade now as we simply have no choice - we need a minimum of a 3-bed and we simply could not get a suitable mortgage.
We are not protected by the new legislation re rentals as that only applies to SH, and we could be served notice at any minute. Always a worry with a 5 year-old.
I love my house and our village, but I always worry we could lose it all at any point.

XenoBitch · 06/11/2025 19:55

Cat1504 · 06/11/2025 19:50

I agree with this post….also because people are buying in what we’re once less than desirable areas

I saw OP's update. People are getting burgled. You can't fix that yourself.

Cat1504 · 06/11/2025 19:50

Crudd99 · 06/11/2025 10:31

In my area the ' bad' areas are now improving because people who would of in the past refused a house in those areas are taking them. The days of picking and choosing areas is now over.

I agree with this post….also because people are buying in what we’re once less than desirable areas

Cat1504 · 06/11/2025 19:46

FlyMeSomewhere · 06/11/2025 07:48

So they are to save you money are they? This is why homeless people are screwed even if they are motivated to get off the street because these properties are occupied by people like you who are doing it out of greed! You can afford to private rent but abuse the system just to save money! There are many people that can't get a roof over their head any other way than by council housing and there's waiting lists of tens of thousands in every area because people who can afford private rent are too greedy to do so! Where else did you think people in genuine shit situations were meant to live! Shameful!

Me? …..l own my own home ( mortgage paid off) and another that I Airbnb? Why would I want a council house? …where did I say I lived in a council house ??
but I stand by my opinion…..what ‘system to abuse’ are you talking about ? Council houses are homes for life or as long as you want them..,,always have been 🤷‍♀️…. Get to the top of the list and you have a home as long as you want it…… that’s the way it works

IMustDoMoreExercise · 06/11/2025 16:52

rhinnq · 06/11/2025 13:28

We have attempted to rent privately but we never get chosen, we have good credit scores, always paid rent on time but I think it's because I work part time.

If we don't decide to proceed with this house I am just going to start selling things and get a loan to pay the rent upfront - which has been suggested by a few letting agents.

Please check that the new Renters Rights Bill does not outlaw paying rent up front as I have a feeling that it does.

FeetLikeFlippers · 06/11/2025 15:37

rhinnq · 04/11/2025 21:34

I just looked at the email and it says "Market Rent".

I can't help but think there must be a reason why tenants leave so quickly as it truly is a beautiful house inside.
From looking at their website they have closed their waiting lists now and they rarely have empty properties.

Have you double checked with the council that turning this property down would definitely mean you getting taken off the list? I wonder if there might be an exception where the rent is so high - if it’s at market rates, surely they can’t expect everybody to be able to afford this unless they receive full housing benefit. If not, then you’d be better off accepting it and then applying for a transfer if you can’t manage the rent or if the area turns out to be really dodgy - if you’re classified as vulnerable then they’d have to take that into account.

Good luck OP, I was in a similar position many years ago and it was unbelievably stressful, but I now have a lovely flat that I’m very grateful for. Hope it works out for you xx

divorcinganabsolutewanker · 06/11/2025 15:29

Cat1504 · 04/11/2025 20:01

Here it’s around £450 a month for a 3 bed council house and you get december free …..private 3 bed is upwards of 1100 ….so it’s a no brainer

Booking a flight asap.

TheScreamQueen · 06/11/2025 14:19

Just take it

Mrsnothingthanks · 06/11/2025 14:17

@rhinnq We've been privately renting for over a decade in a very well sought after village and have had no problems being accepted - I work pt, husband works ft so a similar situation to yourself? Three kids (two shared care with ex-h) and one cat. May I ask roughly how much your income is pm and how much rentals in your area are because if you can cover it on your wages you should be fine.

FallingIntoAutumn · 06/11/2025 13:41

If this is your one shot. I’d move in and really try.
Whats the worst that happens? You end up back in private rental?

I believe the new renters bill may prevent you paying up front. It’s also risky if the landlords unscrupulous

TwinklySquid · 06/11/2025 13:37

rhinnq · 06/11/2025 13:24

@SemiRetiredLoveGoddeess wow does this really happen?
I thought the council's and HA had a firm stance on that kind of thing.

The area is also well known for re housing ex prisoners who have been released from the local prison into the HMO's.

I am really torn.
When I viewed the house last year I was desperate to move due to the stalking and harassment and would of pretty much taken anything.

The house I am in now is a new build (we are the 1st family to live here) has parking, is in a cul de sac with a non existent crime rate.
I can leave the house feeling safe and confident where in this area it is very shady and relatively unsafe with high level of crime and ASB.

Like I said the house inside is very beautiful.

You are comparing your current house with a council house. The council house is unlikely to win.

I moved in to social housing several years ago. When I first saw the house, it didn’t exactly bowl me over. I’d asked around and was told it wasn’t a great area. The person showing me the flat was actually surprised I agreed as so many people had said no to it.

I didn’t have much choice but moved in. I had a toddler and a dog and been turned down for other private places.

I’ve been here several years and it’s nothing like people told me it is. I have lovely neighbours . It’s pretty quiet most of the time. You get a bit of rubbish about on bin days but that’s it.

As someone who had to move around a lot as a kid due to private rentals , this is the first time I actually felt safe and could put down roots. I’ve decorated the house, got another dog and go to bed knowing I won’t be asked to move in six months.

Id take the house. Nothing is forever . Keep yourself to yourself . Make it a home. This will always be far better than having to do a last minute eviction and put in temporary housing.

rhinnq · 06/11/2025 13:28

We have attempted to rent privately but we never get chosen, we have good credit scores, always paid rent on time but I think it's because I work part time.

If we don't decide to proceed with this house I am just going to start selling things and get a loan to pay the rent upfront - which has been suggested by a few letting agents.

OP posts:
rhinnq · 06/11/2025 13:24

@SemiRetiredLoveGoddeess wow does this really happen?
I thought the council's and HA had a firm stance on that kind of thing.

The area is also well known for re housing ex prisoners who have been released from the local prison into the HMO's.

I am really torn.
When I viewed the house last year I was desperate to move due to the stalking and harassment and would of pretty much taken anything.

The house I am in now is a new build (we are the 1st family to live here) has parking, is in a cul de sac with a non existent crime rate.
I can leave the house feeling safe and confident where in this area it is very shady and relatively unsafe with high level of crime and ASB.

Like I said the house inside is very beautiful.

OP posts:
SemiRetiredLoveGoddeess · 06/11/2025 13:04

Do what some people do.. Sign up for the tenancy. Pretend to move in. pPay a month's rent then sublet it at 3 times the rent you paid to a load of illegals who working in mail bars vape shops and takeaways.
etc.

This sort of thing is rife near me. The Housing Associations know full well about it. But as long as they get the rent they couldn't care less.

Mrsnothingthanks · 06/11/2025 12:21

Why can't you rent privately OP? It is do-able if you are both working. That way you can choose your area?

Workingoutthetruth · 06/11/2025 11:54

rhinnq · 06/11/2025 10:30

Update:
We visited the area last night and it was quite bad.
A lot of homeless people just walking past begging for money.

OH swore he saw a rat rummaging through some of the bin bags that had been ripped/torn.
Rubbish everywhere.

I spoke to one of the neighbours and she was very forthcoming.
There are a lot of thefts and burglaries on the street and the street is full of HMO.
She also mentioned there is a lot of ASB on the road as well as the area having a massive drug problem.

She said the last tenant was lovely single mother and had issue after issue and in the end had to move back to her parents as she couldn't stand living there anymore.

The rent is quite expensive, it's an old Victorian house with no parking and is on level with the private rents around here.

My own rent at the moment is £100 cheaper.

Isn't this part of the problem. Anyone wirh drug issues or anti social behaviour should lose all rights to government subsidies.

Gherkinslice · 06/11/2025 11:50

rhinnq · 06/11/2025 10:30

Update:
We visited the area last night and it was quite bad.
A lot of homeless people just walking past begging for money.

OH swore he saw a rat rummaging through some of the bin bags that had been ripped/torn.
Rubbish everywhere.

I spoke to one of the neighbours and she was very forthcoming.
There are a lot of thefts and burglaries on the street and the street is full of HMO.
She also mentioned there is a lot of ASB on the road as well as the area having a massive drug problem.

She said the last tenant was lovely single mother and had issue after issue and in the end had to move back to her parents as she couldn't stand living there anymore.

The rent is quite expensive, it's an old Victorian house with no parking and is on level with the private rents around here.

My own rent at the moment is £100 cheaper.

I see you originally applied for it, and someone else got it, and that you have now been offered it as a previous applicant. Could you say your financial situation has now worsened and that you can no longer afford that rent - that should be a valid reason and one that should keep you on the register?
We were once in same position were offered one that someone turned down, and which we had previously biddef on, but when I mentioned we would need a grab rail in the shower for a physicsl disability they said permission would not be granted for a screw in one and that meant we could not take it (it was a new build, and my dd's OT said was blatantly discriminative, and a stick on one was not safe, but they wouldn't budge and immediately offered it to someone else. I've also seen seen and heard that street is full of ferals and drugs, so I'm glad now. But we DID stay on the register as council said it was HA's choice and rules (!!)and not therefore our fault)

seasid · 06/11/2025 11:33

I’m torn on this. I took the first property offered to me as I was homeless, I was a young (19 year old) female and I got offered a studio flat in a ROUGH area. I took it because a home was a home in my eyes. The area had stigma as the roughest area in the entire county, the shop apparently had multiple stabbings and apparently the people were in gangs etc. fortunately that was NOT my experience. My experience there was not what the ‘reputation’ deemed it as. It had a lovely community feel with neighbours helping eachother out. I ended up in an abusive relationship and my neighbour would come to check up on me, I didn’t even know his name but he would ensure I was safe. People kept themselves to themselves and just went about their lives like in ‘posh’ areas. I’m now in a rich area and I miss the community feel from the ‘rough estate’ as they were so much nicer than the snobs that live here.

Though I would say, if kids are involved it changes everything. Especially if the schools are not great in the catchment area. Especially if it’s going to be a forever home, I do think you’re allowed to be choosy