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To think that most women crave companionship, even if they don’t always admit it?

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UnmaskedAmberFinch · 03/11/2025 15:34

I’m not saying every woman is desperate for a relationship, plenty are happy being single.
But in general, I feel like most women do want meaningful companionship at some point in their lives, whether that’s romantic, deep friendships or close family bonds. Sometimes it feels like society pushes this “I’m totally fine alone” narrative and while independence is great, I wonder if deep down, many people (women especially) really do long for connection, partnership and emotional intimacy.

AIBU to think that the need for companionship is pretty universal and not something to be ashamed of?

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WestwardHo1 · 05/11/2025 16:16

If im asked to go with friends i can and not have to rush back for anyone.

Though IME this does rather depend on your friends also being single and looking to do stuff with you. It's tough shit if all your friends are preoccupied with partners and families and will only do stuff with their friends a few times a year. As I said on another thread, as a single person you either have to be happy to do stuff on your own when you fancy doing it - go for a coffee, go to the theatre, go to a concert, anything - or wait for your friends to have time to fit you in. Plus no one is mentioning sex of course, which given that the OP has cut and run, is probably wise.

UnimatrixZeroOne · 04/11/2025 19:19

ilovesooty · 03/11/2025 15:52

I have no desire for closeness or dependence, and do not want to be part of a couple again. Others may be different.

Exactly this.

SeaAndStars · 04/11/2025 16:08

StrawberryJangle · 04/11/2025 15:59

As a single woman/parent of 16 years if we're going to be specific...
I have to say -

I have no idea what the pair of you are spouting about.

Some of us just make a choice without wondering whether we are a feminist or not.

Read the thread and then you might understand what I am 'spouting'. If the thread is too long and you can't be bothered to read it all then to sum up -
My point is about the original poster and these types of drop and run, provocative, anti feminist, anti woman, trad wife type OPs that occur daily on MN.

I'm a feminist and I would say it does impact on the choices I make.

Refreshing0 · 04/11/2025 16:02

Thegrassroots26 · 04/11/2025 15:42

What’s the secret to living like this happily? Don’t you ever get lonely or bored or sad? Genuinely interested to know how to do it happily. My kids will fly the nest in a few years so I’d like to know how you live happily alone.

I can only speak for myself and i do what the fuck i like and all i could not do before.
I can close my door when i get home and unwind watch a film or binge online knowing know one will ask me do so something.
If im asked to go with friends i can and not have to rush back for anyone.
But being around alot of drama in the past i really dont have time for it now my space is mine.
I really have got to know myself over the years.
And i love my peace and quite time alone.
I can say i am genuinely really happy.

Only you know what will make you happy.
Like right now most are getting in and getting tea on waiting for their partners/kids etc, getting night time routines in place.
im sitting on my bed eating crisp and binging on mumsnet & looking for a mini getaway.
Sometimes i think people just need to find themselfs again years of raising kids maybe along marriage etc.
You being second to everything nows the time to change that.

StrawberryJangle · 04/11/2025 15:59

gannett · 04/11/2025 15:53

Everything they post seems guided by the principle of hammering home that every aspect of human behaviour is gendered. Everything boils down to whether you're a man or a woman. If I want companionship it's because I'm a woman. If I don't, I'm lying about it because I'm a woman.

This one is particularly boring though. Humans want companionship with people they like. Not with people they don't. That determines it rather more than their genitalia.

As a single woman/parent of 16 years if we're going to be specific...
I have to say -

I have no idea what the pair of you are spouting about.

Some of us just make a choice without wondering whether we are a feminist or not.

StrawberryJangle · 04/11/2025 15:53

ilovesooty · 03/11/2025 15:52

I have no desire for closeness or dependence, and do not want to be part of a couple again. Others may be different.

Same here.

I don't understand people that do need someone (thinking of a highly successful friend who admitted she did and went from relationship to relationship).

Maybe it's my mental energy and feelings that know I couldn't cope with that over and over so I choose nothing.

gannett · 04/11/2025 15:53

SeaAndStars · 04/11/2025 10:58

The problem for me is the repeated pushing of anti woman/anti feminist bilge. It's a drip drip drip in an attempt to change perspective, create division and manipulate what people find acceptable/mainstream view.

I also don't want to spend my life interacting with BOTs and more frequently this is seeming the case on here. If it continues I'll probably sling my hook.

Everything they post seems guided by the principle of hammering home that every aspect of human behaviour is gendered. Everything boils down to whether you're a man or a woman. If I want companionship it's because I'm a woman. If I don't, I'm lying about it because I'm a woman.

This one is particularly boring though. Humans want companionship with people they like. Not with people they don't. That determines it rather more than their genitalia.

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 04/11/2025 15:51

I love my friends.

I don’t yearn for romance. I feel like it’s a trick!

HRTQueen · 04/11/2025 15:49

The most lonely I have ever felt (apart form terrible times in my childhood) was when I was married and wanted to be out of the marriage.

It was an awful feeling, I don't want to hurt my ex, I felt trapped and just so so lonely as I could not be myself

Thegrassroots26 · 04/11/2025 15:42

Refreshing0 · 04/11/2025 11:14

Never bothered me.
I love being alone i live alone and wouldn't change it.
No pets no kids no man no drama blissful.

What’s the secret to living like this happily? Don’t you ever get lonely or bored or sad? Genuinely interested to know how to do it happily. My kids will fly the nest in a few years so I’d like to know how you live happily alone.

The13thFairy · 04/11/2025 11:32

It's the 'even if they don't always admit it' that interests me. Sounds like this is you telling women that you know them better than they know themselves. Tiresome.

Refreshing0 · 04/11/2025 11:14

Never bothered me.
I love being alone i live alone and wouldn't change it.
No pets no kids no man no drama blissful.

EveryMeandEveryYou · 04/11/2025 11:03

SeaAndStars · 04/11/2025 10:58

The problem for me is the repeated pushing of anti woman/anti feminist bilge. It's a drip drip drip in an attempt to change perspective, create division and manipulate what people find acceptable/mainstream view.

I also don't want to spend my life interacting with BOTs and more frequently this is seeming the case on here. If it continues I'll probably sling my hook.

I think that is actually makes me post more feminist stuff in retaliation. They often highlight the exact things that men do really really badly, like companionship, and then run off.
It actually makes me think about it more.

SeaAndStars · 04/11/2025 10:58

arethereanyleftatall · 04/11/2025 10:22

Best just to reframe this is your head - it doesnt actually matter if the op is genuine or not. If one wants to participate in this discussion, they can. Even If it’s clear the op has no intention of returning, you can use the thread for your own means - sort out your own feelings or listen to what other people have ti say.

The problem for me is the repeated pushing of anti woman/anti feminist bilge. It's a drip drip drip in an attempt to change perspective, create division and manipulate what people find acceptable/mainstream view.

I also don't want to spend my life interacting with BOTs and more frequently this is seeming the case on here. If it continues I'll probably sling my hook.

WellSurely · 04/11/2025 10:36

arethereanyleftatall · 04/11/2025 10:22

Best just to reframe this is your head - it doesnt actually matter if the op is genuine or not. If one wants to participate in this discussion, they can. Even If it’s clear the op has no intention of returning, you can use the thread for your own means - sort out your own feelings or listen to what other people have ti say.

Well, sure, but I think I’d rather be aware if an OP is a habitually name-changing poster who asks the same type of deliberately clickbait-y questions every day or two, rather than someone raising a topic in good faith. Absolutely you can engage with other posters who are replying in good faith, but I’m not keen on being part of someone’s deliberate coat-trailing policy.

arethereanyleftatall · 04/11/2025 10:22

SeaAndStars · 04/11/2025 10:11

You can spot them a mile off now.

Best just to reframe this is your head - it doesnt actually matter if the op is genuine or not. If one wants to participate in this discussion, they can. Even If it’s clear the op has no intention of returning, you can use the thread for your own means - sort out your own feelings or listen to what other people have ti say.

SeaAndStars · 04/11/2025 10:11

WellSurely · 04/11/2025 10:03

It’s the same poster as usual who uses a variety of three-part names and posts a clickbait title question, aimed at stirring up debate. Very occasionally a subsequent post, often not.

You can spot them a mile off now.

WellSurely · 04/11/2025 10:03

JHound · 04/11/2025 09:53

Oh I see this was a plop and run from OP.

It’s the same poster as usual who uses a variety of three-part names and posts a clickbait title question, aimed at stirring up debate. Very occasionally a subsequent post, often not.

JHound · 04/11/2025 09:53

Oh I see this was a plop and run from OP.

JHound · 04/11/2025 09:48

TodaRythm · 03/11/2025 18:30

Of course they do. The overwhelming majority of women want to to find someone to spend their days with. If it is not a partner, then they have to make do with a dog or a cat. How many single middle aged women do you know that live on their own and have no pets ? Widows don't count.

Most of the single middle aged women I know do not have pets - myself included.

I would be interested to see if more single people have pets compared to married people. I doubt it.

JHound · 04/11/2025 09:46

notgoingonabearhunt · 03/11/2025 17:57

I do know what the OP means.

There’s this ‘why on earth would you want to be married?’ (or in a relationship) mantra which definitely permeates MN.

Yes you see that here and there but lets not act like the overwhelming messaging from society is that being single is a defiency. There is no equivalent, married term that holds the contempt the term “spinster” does.

WellSurely · 04/11/2025 09:21

And yet again we have a tripartite-named OP asking a clickbaity question.

EstherGreenwood63 · 04/11/2025 09:19

So. You mean 'humans' not women. hth

5128gap · 04/11/2025 09:15

Iwanttoliveinagardencentre · 04/11/2025 09:05

Problem is that most men don’t seem to feel the same.
There priorities are sex, domestic support for their own comfort, sex, possibly spreading their genes, sex and did I mention sex?

That's not my experience. While they do want all that, they also want someone to listen to them, sympathise with them, flatter them and encourage them, sort out problems for them (while ideally pretending its them that have arrived at the solution), ask them if they're OK, make them feel good about themselves. And all this tends to intensify as they get older and less 'relevent' by comparison with other younger men. Unfortunately this often tends to be something of a one way street, with many being quite poor at reciprocating the things they want and need. Men do want companionship, the problem is, they're not always the best companions for women. Hence a lot of women choosing to be single, and a lot of men being forced to be.

PollyBell · 04/11/2025 09:08

Well i dont presume it is just woman, I prssume all humans need connections of some description