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To not understand the "holidays with small children is just parenting in a different place" complaints?

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LadyGreyjoy · 03/11/2025 14:42

We have an 18 month old and have just got back from a week all inclusive in Spain. Obviously we did just parent out daughter in a different place, but I don't see that as a bad thing and certainly not a reason to say there was no point in going. I love being a mum, I waited a long time for my daughter due to infertility and I've been dreaming of family holidays for years. Whilst I still had to do the parenting (which I enjoy doing anyway) I didn't have to cook, wash up or clean, the food was lovely and far better than we cook at home, I did no laundry for a week and instead of working all day and only getting two hours in the evening with my daughter a day I got to play in the pool/on the beach with her all day every day for a week. After she was asleep instead of watching TV and being too tired to do anything we sat on the balcony listening to the music from the bar and drank cocktails and chatted, real quality time with my husband I am usually too tired to enjoy.

On here there are many threads making out a holiday with small children is shit and not worth the effort and that hasn't been my experience at all. The journey there and back was a bit rough and exactly what I expected it to be like tbh. Other than that it's been bliss and I would 10/10 recommend people go and do it. I was kind of dreading it after reading all the threads here but I wish I hadn't worried about it so much now.

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LadyGreyjoy · 05/11/2025 09:06

divorcinganabsolutewanker · 05/11/2025 09:01

Having only one child sounds awful to me.

Having to go through IVF must be awful.

Going on holiday with 3/4 kids is was not awful to me.

I wanted to fill my home with children as I come from a large family and I love it.

Not being able to have a child and carry them to full term is awful.

I wouldn't say it's chaos, it is for some but not for all.

I started taking my children abroad when they were 5, 6 and 6 and it was wonderful. They are grown now and go on their own holiday but every couple of years we still go on holiday together.

I get the feeling that you resent women that are able to carry more children and don't need IVF. You sound quite bitter.

That's not our fault.

No, I don't resent your multiple children. I literally don't want them.

All the mums gleefully saying "wait until you've got three kids, the you'll see holidays are stressful and not fun" are the bitter ones.

Just because you wanted loads of kids, it doesn't mean that the rest of us or jealous of them.

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LadyGreyjoy · 05/11/2025 09:04

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I see plenty of bullies.

Derisive comments about my life, calling my child a poor thing, declaring my marriage needs work when they've never even met me and I hadn't made a single comment about how my marriage is, telling me having more children is unachievable for me so I'd never know anyway, all of these things are bullying. Sarcastic pity for someone who is actually happy serves no purpose other than to belittle someone.

If you can't see that and think this is a normal civil conversation, you've spent far too much time online and have become desensitised to it.

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MermaidMummy06 · 05/11/2025 09:03

I didn't really like holidays with young kids. You spend all day at the park or pool, or cooking & cleaning. I'm an adventure traveller & find it tedious to do the same things we do at home.

All inclusive isn't a thing here, except for cruising, which is hugely popular. Tried it. Never again.

Now the DC are 9 & 13 it's fab. 3 weeks in Japan in cherry blossom season this year & they were a ball to travel with. Could have done without two visits to the Kirby cafe, though. 😂 DD wants to zipline or ski next. So more fun, just more expensive! Just have to figure out where to go that my DM doesn't want to go as she announced she wants to tag along on our previous choice. I'd rather travel with young children than my DP's!!

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LadyGreyjoy · 04/11/2025 16:44

It certainly sounds awful to me.

Apparently it's chaos, makes nice relaxing holidays unaffordable and makes holidays at all unenjoyable. So unenjoyable posters with 3-4 kids are laughing at how mums with only children have no idea how hard it is and won't be enjoying their holidays anymore if they have more!

No thanks!

Having only one child sounds awful to me.

Having to go through IVF must be awful.

Going on holiday with 3/4 kids is was not awful to me.

I wanted to fill my home with children as I come from a large family and I love it.

Not being able to have a child and carry them to full term is awful.

I wouldn't say it's chaos, it is for some but not for all.

I started taking my children abroad when they were 5, 6 and 6 and it was wonderful. They are grown now and go on their own holiday but every couple of years we still go on holiday together.

I get the feeling that you resent women that are able to carry more children and don't need IVF. You sound quite bitter.

That's not our fault.

Ducklove · 05/11/2025 08:57

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LadyGreyjoy · 05/11/2025 08:57

AQuickWord · 05/11/2025 08:53

I don't agree for a minute that just doing the same parenting in a different place makes it's not a holiday or not worth bothering.

So you really don’t understand that for some families it can be more stressful to go away? As the change in routine, difficulty to access familiar foods, overstimulation from new environment etc can lead to difficulties? I had very easy young children but I can still completely understand why holidays may not live up to their promise for other families.

If you truly do not understand, it does make your comments appear a bit thick really 🤷🏼‍♀️ Are you able to have the maturity, self-awareness and grace to reflect and rethink your attitude, based on some of the experiences listed here?

I won't be capitulating to the bullies and apologising for my point of view, no.

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LadyGreyjoy · 05/11/2025 08:55

divorcinganabsolutewanker · 05/11/2025 08:48

You don't sound like a nice person at all.

You know, I thought exactly the same about you!

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LadyGreyjoy · 05/11/2025 08:55

Didimum · 05/11/2025 08:29

I don’t understand the way you have directed the thread, OP. You specifically made a post indicating that parents are unreasonable for finding holidays with young children difficult.

Yet then you make several statements indicating that it’s ok that ’different people are different’ when it comes to justifying elements of your own life that posters say isn’t for them.

So which is it?

Well I started off a thread because I don't agree with the perspective often seen here that just parenting in a different place doesn't a holiday make. Parenting my own child isn't so much of hardship that it makes a holiday not a holiday or not enjoyable.

Then posters started banging on about how I was privileged and had no idea what a caravan holiday was like (not true). Then they wanted my full life story as justification for the pure decadence of going on an AI holiday because how dare I!? So I started to run out of patience and sympathy for the people on the thread who were clearly just annoyed that I don't agree with their opinion.

Then the outright derision, mockery and nastiness starred so I'm now I'm just enjoying winding the bullies up and watching them go because watching them get into such a froth that they are so desperate to tear me down is quite frankly hilarious!

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LadyGreyjoy · 04/11/2025 11:32

You don't need to tell me how hard it is to see people happy when you're struggling. Five years of infertility and endless pregnancy announcements taught me that.

Not once did I ever make snide comments to those women like "just you wait until they're two and they're a nightmare!" Just to piss on their joy. I guess some people are just more spiteful than others.

I understand some kids are an absolute nightmare on holiday, but they sound like the same kids who are an absolute nightmare at home and it was to be expected. I don't agree for a minute that just doing the same parenting in a different place makes it's not a holiday or not worth bothering. I stand by that.

And as for the 3-4 kids comments, these seem to come up whenever anyone mentions healthy eating, after school activities, going on holiday, paying uni fees etc. It's always the same, people pop up with wait until you've got 4 kids, then you'll see that these things aren't really doable! It just makes it sound like people are having more kids than they can cope with really then using that as a stick to beat people with who chose to have fewer kids so they didn't have to compromise on those things.

I don't agree for a minute that just doing the same parenting in a different place makes it's not a holiday or not worth bothering.

So you really don’t understand that for some families it can be more stressful to go away? As the change in routine, difficulty to access familiar foods, overstimulation from new environment etc can lead to difficulties? I had very easy young children but I can still completely understand why holidays may not live up to their promise for other families.

If you truly do not understand, it does make your comments appear a bit thick really 🤷🏼‍♀️ Are you able to have the maturity, self-awareness and grace to reflect and rethink your attitude, based on some of the experiences listed here?

Ducklove · 05/11/2025 08:52

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You don't sound like a nice person at all.

LadyGreyjoy · 05/11/2025 08:47

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And yet posters like wordler think I have to grovel and apologise for being able to go on an all inclusive holiday and weren't satisfied that my experience is justified without my whole life story as a qualifier because being able to go on an AI holiday is a sin that provokes uncontrollable jealousy in people. It's ridiculous!

I don't need people to be jealous of my life to be happy with it. That's a very sad place to be. I also don't value the opinions of online strangers about my life at all. I wake up every day feeling blessed with my daughter, my husband and my horse, look over the rolling hills and feel content. Then I set off to work knowing I'm working hard to make this happen, it's an immense feeling of satisfaction, I certainly don't need peoples jealousy 😂

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Didimum · 05/11/2025 08:29

LadyGreyjoy · 05/11/2025 08:16

Didn't come across as caring, came across as condescending. You certainly enjoyed listing all my hardships!

Having difficulties in life doesn't make poxy weeks away pure bliss by comparison clearly or all the sour pusses wouldn't be winging about their poxy caravan holidays being stressful and awful would they 🤷

I don’t understand the way you have directed the thread, OP. You specifically made a post indicating that parents are unreasonable for finding holidays with young children difficult.

Yet then you make several statements indicating that it’s ok that ’different people are different’ when it comes to justifying elements of your own life that posters say isn’t for them.

So which is it?

Ducklove · 05/11/2025 08:24

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Riverswims · 05/11/2025 08:23

I call stealth boast 🤷🏽‍♀️

Ducklove · 05/11/2025 08:18

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Didimum · 05/11/2025 08:18

I think you should accept and understand that people have different experiences to you, OP. Most often it’s that holidays feel harder than being at home due to loss of routine and home comforts for the children, especially if they are sensitive to these things. And that can feel very sad and stressful when a holiday has been really looked forward to.

Surely that’s understandable.

Ducklove · 05/11/2025 08:17

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LadyGreyjoy · 05/11/2025 08:16

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Didn't come across as caring, came across as condescending. You certainly enjoyed listing all my hardships!

Having difficulties in life doesn't make poxy weeks away pure bliss by comparison clearly or all the sour pusses wouldn't be winging about their poxy caravan holidays being stressful and awful would they 🤷

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LadyGreyjoy · 05/11/2025 08:12

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Love the condescension 😂

Most Mumsnetters are just here to piss on others parades, it's what gets them out of bed in the morning! Don't spoil the harpies' day, they certainly haven't spoiled mine 😉

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Cherrytree86 · 04/11/2025 20:38

@LadyGreyjoy

Alright, alright, OP.

You are right. You got me. Holidays with children are amazing. It’s not just parenting in a different place. And anyone saying otherwise is the kind of silly moaning Minnie that frequents mother and child groups. You’re right to not have mum friends - they are weak and moaning and whinging and ungrateful and unappreciative.

Happy now?

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