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Every morning I wake up with dread.

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SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 03/11/2025 05:47

It is horrible. My dreams are full of worry and scenarios that are familiar in rl or that I think will happen. It is like I am in constant dread for my present life and for the future possibilities. No relief at all.

I only expect disaster and trouble because that is what life with my ex was like for the last 9 years of our 22 year relationship. I am separated from stbxh for three years.

He financially ruined us. He was also adulterous. Verbally, financially and occasionally physically abusive.

I work, 4 dcs. Youngest is 13.

I hate my job. I’m crap at it. They ask me to do stuff like create things in Canva and then tear it apart. Job description does not have creative design in it. I need to retrain and get better job but I do not know which way to turn.

I constantly worry about money. Ex left me with debt that I did not know he was racking up. Every month I worry and fret about bills and paying off these debts.

My 13 year old adores him. He is however, unpleasant to me. Surly, full of contempt and never wants to do anything with me. He wants to live with ex and when ex visits him, is really chatty and wants to do stuff with him. Never me. Not even watch a film together. In fact, he is adamant in telling his dad we never do stuff together.

I know he wants to and is going to live with his dad. Except I think that would be a big mistake as I don’t think his dad is mentally stable enough so I will try to fight that. Not least because ds13 would lose his school place here and would be very unlikely to get it back if he changed his mind. But I doubt there is nothing I can do about it ultimately. My other dcs think ds13 is mad to want to live with his dad. But he doesn’t care.

I feel overwhelmed and anxious all the time. Money worries and my youngest son wanting to live with his dad and my future. I am 54 and it feels like it’s game over. Poverty and anxiety. I wouldn’t mind but these debts are not my doing. But because we were married, I too am liable. I am pissed off that I was tricked like this. He would scream in my face if I made enquiries about the money situation.

Taking medication is not going to take away the source of my dread. I reminisce to the 1900s before I met my ex and when I was free of this awful feeling. I just cannot imagine happiness or freedom from the dark constant worry.

I just wish I were more spirited or entrepreneurial but I just can’t see a way out.

OP posts:
5128gap · 03/11/2025 09:12

I can relate to your post, albeit for different reasons. I would regularly wake up actually crying.
These things helped.
Looking after myself physically. So eating good healthy foods, doing the required amount of exercising and prioritising rest where I could. High stress takes a physical toll and we need to do physical things to repair and recover.
Vit D supplements.
A big glass of water first thing. Morning dread is made worse by overnight dehydration.
Obviously these things won't remove your problems, so I'd also suggest you contact citizens advice or step change for debt advice.
Job wise, I'd schedule a meeting with your line manager to discuss your job overall. They have a responsibility to support and train you to improve your performance if required. Constant criticism without any plans on place to address the issue is poor management, so they are failing you here.

brokenbiscuitsadness · 03/11/2025 09:09

Don’t want to derail but wondering if HRT might help my middle of the night panic attacks. I am through menopause (am 54) so assumed no point in HRT but am taking heavy duty beta blockers for anxiety and would rather not.

Muffinmam · 03/11/2025 09:07

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 03/11/2025 06:10

Yes. One foot in front of the other.

I really do not want my ds13 to live with his dad. His dad has a temper. Does not cope well with juggling work and kids. I don’t want to risk that for my ds. I will do everything I can to prevent that even though my ds is unpleasant.

I always look for and apply for other jobs. I think my age is a factor here.

I research what training I could / should do in a new direction but I cannot decide which is best and am paralysed with worry I will make the wrong decision again and waste precious money.

Ex says he’s paying off other debts he has accrued. It is astonishing how much debt he created. He is on a big salary and still racked up so much. I hate him for this legacy. And the psychological damage. He’s left our dcs with nothing.

I would like to feel not powerful but in charge and optimistic and with a future. I don’t know how to do that with the overwhelm and indecisiveness.

Your son needs to find out for himself what a massive POS his father is.

You need to let go.

HelenHywater · 03/11/2025 08:55

herbetta · 03/11/2025 08:01

Are you taking HRT? I understand that the root cause of your MH issues is what you have been through, but lack of Oestrogen severely exacerbates and increases symptoms. I became a flat, emotionless, anxiety-fuelled, catastrophising mess during peri & Menopause. Large amounts of HRT has completely reversed this.

me too. And I didn't realise because I had no other symptoms of menopause. But I think it exacerbated all the anxiety and flatness that I was feeling (justifiably) from my life.

ClawsandEffect · 03/11/2025 08:48

I don't have a lot of advice because I haven't been in your position. However, in relation to your youngest child I do.

When my parents divorced I stayed with my mum. I missed my dad like crazy and was always desperate to go to see him. Eventually, I went to live with him.

It was awful. Beyond awful. I'd had a good relationship with him until I lived with him so it was completely unexpected. I think I was there about 6 months and then I went back to my mum. She was living somewhere unsuitable for two people but TBH it was still preferable. I never missed my dad again after that.

I think you probably need to let your son try it. He'll soon realise his mistake. And it might improve his attitude towards you. Of course, it might not. He's a teenager. They can be arses at the best of times.

Keepingittogetherstepbystep · 03/11/2025 08:33

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 03/11/2025 06:50

Is there something that I could retrain in quickly that would lead to a proper and real constructive career path? I was thinking cyber security. No experience but one can learn?

Have a look at your local council for bootcamps. It can take up to 5 years to be fully qualified in cyber security but it depends how far you want to go with it.

Alittlefrustrated · 03/11/2025 08:26

From a safeguarding perspective you are absolutely right not to let your 13yo live with his father. A father who you know has been abusive to him in the past - screaming in his face etc, and being abusive to his mother. In the absence of a partner to take things out on, your DS would almost certainly become the recipient of heightened abuse. Those saying tell him it's his choice and he'd have to live with the consequences are ridiculous! He's a CHILD!!! A child whose childhood has been spent in a home full of abuse.
OP you are doing fantastically well to claw your family out of that misery.
Edit spelling

Geneticsbunny · 03/11/2025 08:22

Have you considered the possibility that you could have ptsd?

Lilactimes · 03/11/2025 08:17

herbetta · 03/11/2025 08:01

Are you taking HRT? I understand that the root cause of your MH issues is what you have been through, but lack of Oestrogen severely exacerbates and increases symptoms. I became a flat, emotionless, anxiety-fuelled, catastrophising mess during peri & Menopause. Large amounts of HRT has completely reversed this.

hi @SugarPlumpFairyCakes - I just came on here to say the exact same thing as @herbetta.
When I was a bit younger I had quite a big job and I was a completely loan parent.

I used to look at these powerful women in the news and could not get my head around how they were coping. I was so fearful and worried about everything. I was in a constant state of dread.. There wasn’t a lot of info on menopause and I certainly hadn’t heard of peri. After about 5 tricky years, I eventually went on HRT. Once I found the right one for me I started to feel so much better. I slept better and was a little calmer inside.
This just gave me a bit of headspace to practise a bit more self care (I used to do a bit of meditating in the morning to calm, focus and get gratitude).

I just found gradually I had the energy and focus to start solving problems.

You are coping with so so much. It’s understandable but it can and will be overcome.

(re the criticism of your design work or content. Please try to understand that this is never personal. Try and see it as someone trying to improve a visual/ company message and when it’s right, it will bring success to the company or team… and maybe more fees/ revenue. Professional design type criticism should always be acted on, taken as a learning for your future and never taken personally- it’s really not aimed at you).

400rider · 03/11/2025 08:15

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 03/11/2025 06:50

Is there something that I could retrain in quickly that would lead to a proper and real constructive career path? I was thinking cyber security. No experience but one can learn?

A friend is in that area and I would say if you’re already under pressure and stressed this will make you more vulnerable.
The job nearly killed him, was in hospital this year for four months.

Nursing would be less stressful!

EveryMeandEveryYou · 03/11/2025 08:07

You sound utterly worn down OP. Can you go to the GP and explain how low you are, get some bloods just to check your basics (when I'm depressed I don't eat well and that can have knock on effects) and see if there is anything they can do? I think that getting your health and mind back on track are the things that will bring the biggest change for you, give you more energy and hope.

Applesonthelawn · 03/11/2025 08:03

I think you sound absolutely amazing - brave and persevering, with your kids' best interests at the centre of everything you do. I'd be proud to have you as a friend and I'm sure lots of women would feel that way (if only they had time in their lives for friends!). You have been given lots of good advice. It sounds very much like you are always doing the right thing - the rewards of that may not come quickly, but they do come over time, so keep on following your instincts which to me sound spot on. Have faith that things will get better and stay strong.

herbetta · 03/11/2025 08:01

Are you taking HRT? I understand that the root cause of your MH issues is what you have been through, but lack of Oestrogen severely exacerbates and increases symptoms. I became a flat, emotionless, anxiety-fuelled, catastrophising mess during peri & Menopause. Large amounts of HRT has completely reversed this.

DBD1975 · 03/11/2025 08:00

OP it is no wonder you feel as you do, it sounds totally overwhelming.
Please stop looking at the big picture and just concentrate on changing one are of your life which causes the most stress.
If you work for a large organisation look at other roles you could do and apply for internally.
Do you have an employee assistance programme, if you do contact them for support.
Speak to your manager about how you are feeling to see if you could let go of certain responsibilities you don't enjoy and take on something else work wise.
I agree with other posters about letting your son go to live with his Dad, as it will go two ways. He will either realise the grass isn't greener and return with a different perspective or he will stay with his Dad and get on with it and be happier, either way it is a win.
Good luck OP I feel for you, I think you need a mix of counselling and anti anxiety medication and I speak from a place of experience (it does help) x

ParkMaiden · 03/11/2025 07:56

DeathNote11 · 03/11/2025 06:51

I honestly would consider shared care for the 13yo. There's absolutely nothing you can do to change how he's feeling other than letting him experience life with dad for himself. I've got 3, all young adults now & all had very different opinions about, & relationships with, their father growing up. I stayed completely neutral & there was nothing I could have done to influence them anyway. If you just keep saying no to him he'll resent you, & that's THE most destructive emotion in my experience.

Re career. I went back to uni in my 40s & retrained into the professions. I have to work temporary contracts to maximise my earnings at the moment, so it's hard going with no holidays or sick pay, but it's guaranteed work, age is valued & we live well on it. It's a descision I've never regretted & a very successful investment of time, effort & money.

Sorry but what do you mean ‘the professions?’

CantBreathe90 · 03/11/2025 07:52

Medication won't remove the source of your dread, but it will absolutely help you to feel better with the reality you are in now.

Obviously, fix or improve what you can. Practice self care as much as you are able. But do really look into medication too, it's life changing and one thing that's easy to sort.

WWFCards · 03/11/2025 07:52

Others have given far better advice but I just wondered about one small thing. I have no idea what Canva is, but how can you get better at it to improve your confidence? YouTube videos? Practise for an hour at the weekend? Maybe somebody here knows about it. I hate that you are feeling so stressed about this work stuff on top of everything and wonder if there is a way to improve?

AngelicKaty · 03/11/2025 07:48

AngelicKaty · 03/11/2025 07:13

@SugarPlumpFairyCakes I'm so sorry for what your STBX put you through (and still does). I totally understand how you feel so overwhelmed and it must be infuriating beyond belief to be paying off £22k in unpaid school fees simply because he didn't and won't (I'd want to kill him for this alone!). I've only read your posts so forgive me if someone else has highlighted this, but you wrote in your first post "I wouldn’t mind but these debts are not my doing. But because we were married, I too am liable." This is not true. You are never liable for your spouse's debts incurred in their sole name just because you're married to them. You are only jointly (and often, severally) liable because you were a joint signatory in your own right on the agreement (as you clearly were for your DCs school fees).
Are you currently in debt that you can't afford to service? (Presumably you have some sort of repayment plan for the school fees?). If you're struggling to keep your head above water, may I suggest you contact one of the free debt charities (StepChange, PayPlan, National Debtline and Citizens Advice) for advice - depending on your income and total debt you may be eligible for an IVA or a DRO and may even be able to have some, if not all, of your debt written off. I think if you could get your money worries under control - if not totally solved - you would feel more in control generally (and less like your STBX has the power to re-victimise you every day). Some info: https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/debt-and-money/help-with-debt/dealing-with-your-debts/check-your-debt-options/
Your 13yr old DS may want to go and live with your STBX, but how does your STBX feel about this? Have you discussed the possibility with him? (He may say No outright, which would solve the problem as it would no longer be you telling your DS that he can't, but his father refusing to have him.)
Finally, I don't think you say in your posts how long you've been in your current job. If it's more than two years you may want to think carefully about leaving it for a new job as with more than two years' continuous service you have full employment rights e.g. protection from unfair dismissal not involving discrimination (which is a Day One right) and redundancy pay, but with fewer than this you don't (this two-year rule is due to be replaced by a shorter statutory probation period as part of the new Employment Rights Bill, but not for another year or two).
I think, considering you're taking care of four DC and holding down a job, you have more resilience than you give yourself credit for, but very best of luck with however you choose to move forward.

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@SugarPlumpFairyCakes Ah, ignore my post - I now see from your TWELFTH post that you don't live in the UK! (Bit of a drip-feed OP.)

Blah1881 · 03/11/2025 07:46

Woah OP you sound amazing- what an inspiration you are. You deserve to feel better- you have achieved so much in getting away from an appalling situation. You should, rightfully, feel like a hero-because that is what you are. However instead you are left with a feeling of constant dread. I know you say there is no point in medication since the root of the situation is a real problem- but on the other hand- if your leg had been chewed off (for instance)- you wouldn’t be saying ‘well of course it’s going to hurt- it’s been chewed off!’
I think you should do yourself a favour and get something prescribed to take the edge off all this, so you can truly appreciate what a goddess you are and what you have achieved.

Crazybigtoe · 03/11/2025 07:46

How far is your current role from cyber? I think you need to look at current skill sets and pivot from there. Yes. You can learn. But you'll also need some sort of experience- so if your current company has those roles, maybe move sideways, get experience and then move onto another company after experience? (Or stay if you enjoy it ...).

Are all 4 kids at home? Do you have time for a side hustle to add interest?

Re the 22k debt. You have a plan with the school. This will get paid off - even if slowly. It's done. No need to stress about it and get angry cause it's done. And yes ex is an arse for it.

I would focus on learning more about investing and finances. That's a big part of the stress and understanding about this is key.

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 03/11/2025 07:42

Sartre · 03/11/2025 07:38

If you can, I’d be looking at removing them from private school. Your ex isn’t contributing so even though the school has agreed on an ‘affordable’ payment plan, you’re still struggling each month. Think how much more comfortable you’d be without those fees each month.

As for the job, websites like coursera or even just YouTube offer canva tutorials. Obviously look into a new job at the same time but bear in mind the job market is ridiculously competitive right now.

Your DS is being a typical teenager, thinks he knows it all and is rebelling because he’s struggling with the situation. He clearly needs support but also needs to understand the gravity of his dad’s actions so he drops the pedestal.

Kids are not in private school. I took them out three years ago.

OP posts:
Sartre · 03/11/2025 07:38

If you can, I’d be looking at removing them from private school. Your ex isn’t contributing so even though the school has agreed on an ‘affordable’ payment plan, you’re still struggling each month. Think how much more comfortable you’d be without those fees each month.

As for the job, websites like coursera or even just YouTube offer canva tutorials. Obviously look into a new job at the same time but bear in mind the job market is ridiculously competitive right now.

Your DS is being a typical teenager, thinks he knows it all and is rebelling because he’s struggling with the situation. He clearly needs support but also needs to understand the gravity of his dad’s actions so he drops the pedestal.

Monster6 · 03/11/2025 07:34

You have a plan in place to clear the debt, you are no longer accruing toxic debt so tick that one off. To the job; £3.3k isn’t half bad for a job where you like the team, and you’ve obviously passed probation so you are quite protected. The dc13 is a stress, I can understand that. I would find a quiet moment and lay everything on the table calmly with him. Explain rationally about his dad, his temper etc. 13 is old enough to hear it all…but stay calm. Ultimately you can’t nail his feet to the floor. To you!! Abd this is the area you’ll need to work at most, and prioritise. You clearly have PTSD/trauma. You’re not used to putting yourself first clearly, but any improvement in your mood or outlook will HAVE to come from within. Start small…a walk, a run, a chat, cold water therapy/sauna, journaling…low cost self esteem boosts. And build up. It’s small, consistent steps everyday. You may have to adopt a stoic approach to dc13.

Cucy · 03/11/2025 07:32

I don’t live in U.K. so 50/50 with ds13 is not feasible. We are all British though with dual nationality apart from exh.

Sorry I missed this.

So did dad move away or did you move away with the kids?

Him not being near his dad is definitely going to make him want to see him more.
Chances are if they lived close by he wouldn’t want to live with him so much.

For now focus on DS seeing him all school holidays and as many weekends as possible.

Be open with DS about you being worried about him moving countries and school etc (don’t be negative about his dad) and that you’ll do what you can to help him see him as much as possible and that you’ll try and come up with a plan to live closer to ex.

Him living with his dad isn’t the worst thing in the world - it would stop any resent towards you but also give you chance to focus on your career.
You just need to make sure it’s actually what DS wants and he’s not just saying it out of hurt and so starting with all of the holidays etc will help.

Horsie · 03/11/2025 07:24

Oh, OP. I am sorry for you. I know what it's like to feel as if your whole life's a mess - I also had an abusive marriage - and I'm here to offer you a hand-hold.

Maybe it's common for abusive relationships to make you feel like this. After all, they manage to affect your life from the inside, don't they, from the most intimate parts of your life, and then it spreads outwards to affect the rest of your life. As opposed to, say, a job loss, which is an external thing.

Make a list of things you can do to improve things, and things you have no control over, like your ex.