New allegations against Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor

I would love to know what power you think the Windsors have
They seem to have the power to spend money like water with very little accountability!

Personal information held by the government is usually closed for 100 years from the subject's date of birth. It is reported that the files relating to Andrew will be closed until 2065. If that is correct, that means they will be closed for 5 years longer than normal. They are available to law enforcement and other relevant authorities and the courts can force disclosure if necessary, but you and I have no right to see them.

I would love to know what power you think the Windsors have, i.e. real power they can actually use as opposed to notional power where, for example, Charles in theory has the power to appoint anyone he wants as Prime Minister but, in practice, he will always appoint whoever the House of Commons wants.

He was paid by the government . They are government files .

Why can’t they unseal the documents ?
So what if it takes a court order ? Aren’t we always told that the Windsors have no power and are mere figureheads ( lies )

Yes we were told exactly the same thing about Charles . It was trumpeted that he’d ’slim down ‘ the monarchy once Elizabeth was gone ( note though they never said he’d take less money from us - Charles has better PR than William )
Of course now he’s ensconced he’s taking more than ever from the hard pressed tax payer

So the bread crumbing of ‘ don’t worry - the NEXT leech , sorry, Windsor, will be different .

William will be worse.
He has high handedly refused to confirm what little tax he will offer on his Duchy haul ( it’s entirely voluntary for him you see)
He’s an empty suit who cares only for his own obscene wealth . That’s why his PR always falls flat. People can sense insincerity in others.

Exactly

The corruption and shoring up of his own position are a given.

But it'll be interesting to see whether, when the time comes, an aged William as limply allows his younger son or possibly the daughter to be sacrificed to the baying press, just as Charles has allowed Harry to be ostracised and relentlessly smeared. All in the name of protecting other members of the twattish so-called Windsor family.

Yes everyone is somehow sure William, despite all evidence to the contrary is going to modernize the Monarchy, make them more transparent etc when he could be making his own finances more transparent now, but has chosen not to. He has chosen to ' forgive' fees paid by charities to the tune of a few thousand £, but only when the publicity forced him. The only thing he'll change is trousering more cash for less work.

They are now, but the real question is what was known at the time. It's a pity that my previous comment was deleted because it was on point.

Castle of Mey is in a charitable trust natch. Although that doesn't preclude C3 from claiming a couple of weeks a year sole occupation.

Highgrove is owned by DoC and C3 rather comically now has to pay the rent he was previously trousering to no.1 son.

We don't know what W pays on Cornwall because he declines to tell us😡

We don't know yet if he'll reveal all on Lancaster but I'm not holding my breath on current form,

But yep. He's in line for a huge win on IHT and it's a near given he's not going to change anything impacting his unearned income.

He will pay tax on the Cornwall estate but if/when he becomes King he gets the Lancaster estate, anything his father bequeathes him eg Castle of May, High grove etc and no IHT. Plus the continuation of Monarchs Consent. He isn't going to change anything.

I am sure that William is planning reforms to limit what RF members can do commercially and make their finances more transparent.

Can you explain why you are sure of this when the commercial activities of his private estate are touted as an 'imperative' and while he refuses to reveal the tax (if any we have to ask) he pays on said estate revenues?

Maybe it was ostensibly given as a wedding gift but in reality the majority was laundered? Just like the money that was paid for Sunninghill.

The Windsors don't need excuses. Boris said they were beyond reproach.

@Catullus5

What exactly are you implying?

You are making a fool of yourself - twisting yourself like a pretzel desperate to find excuses for the Windsors .

Utterly shameful .

The incidents I referred to are in the public domain .

They were sealed. Would take a Court Order. I doubt you'll find The Crown doing that.

Are you in the habit of discussing your sex life with your close family members?

This is correct, though AMW may have committed offences in other jurisdictions, notably the US where in many places the age of consent is 18 not 16. Regarding sex though, AMW's activities in the UK were very very sleazy but not actually criminal.

The most the King can do is remove his titles and duties (done) and give him the cold shoulder, which is no one's business but his.

It's not lawful any longer to send princes of the realm to the Tower, or have them beheaded and their head put on a spike on London Bridge because they've offended against morals.

The criminality is more likely to be financial stuff and that should be investigated.

Yes she was married in a small church / chapel at Windsor with I think it was 20 guests max, inc her DGPs, there were few photos released but their is one that included her and new DH socially distanced from her DGP.

I think she was planning a big wedding, but the stuff about Andrew had come out, plus covid, she went with a small family wedding as was allowed at the time.

I doubt it cost anything like £750k

Society weddings are very costly. Vintage champers & Mummy may have ordered multiple banquets & made a decision on the day. Seriously, that sort of spend for jewellery on day, food, entertainment, alcohol. Possible. Poss with extra for trousseau & start in first home.

Didn’t Beatrice get married during covid when large groups weren’t permitted so I can’t see where it would cost £750,000. She even used one of the queens dresses as her wedding gown

According to A Lownie's book, on a couple of occasions Beatrice accompanied her father on his very dodgy visits to Kazakhstan and, as somebody remarked upthread, that part of the story is going to be a bombshell when it all comes out. Major graft. Additionally £750,000 was donated to pay for her wedding by a Turkish businessman in exchange for 'help' with processing his passport.
I don't know how much she was complicit in, but I think she certainly had her nose in the trough. At the very least she should have asked more questions.

@Postcardsender

Yes calling critics trolls is a tired trope that I’ve had before . You are the first to repeatedly call me a ‘Russian troll’ - others have said ‘labour / socialist ‘ etc

So is trying to threaten posters with being sued for expressing an opinion.

You are probably unaware that what you are doing is against the site rules but I’m happy for your comments to stand because they are ridiculous and revealing .

If you seriously think a poster on mumsnet who is tearing strips off the corrupt Windsors is a Russian troll I can’t help you . Touch grass maybe

As for your defence of Andrew - there have been calls for the MET to ‘look again ‘ at their response to the Andrew situation . These calls describe what has happened as ‘two tier justice’. I agree with that .
You clearly know about the civil case being blocked from serving papers .
It was when a judge in New York said he would accept the server giving the papers to the policeman that the ball was rolling for the pay off .

Now you say I have no basis for my belief that the Windsor clan has numerous links to pedophiles
We know about Andrew ans Epstein .
Charles was close to Saville .
Charles defended and housed Peter ball - a bishop who was a convicted pedophile and sex offender
Mountbatten has been described as a ‘prolific pedophile’ but was known as ‘dear uncle Dickie ‘ to the Windsors

I don’t know about your family but to me that’s disturbing

@Postcardsender KC - Jimmy Savile, Laurens van der Post, Peter Ball.
van der Post fathered a child with a 14 year old girl.
Lord Louis Mountbatten- Kincora Boys Home in Belfast.