New allegations against Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor

They absolutely would not.

I honestly don't believe all the lurid rumours about Prince Philip. The press would have been on that in an instant.

I was twenty-eight before I had the mental strength to hear a word against my father. I have no judgement for those two young women.

I doubt her suit will get anywhere since VG is dead.

I honestly don't believe all the lurid rumours about Prince Philip. The press would have been on that in an instant.

Oh you are embarrassingly naïve.

Girls? They’re adult women with families of their own. Calling them girls is dismissive.

Pointing out the moral and broader benefits of them giving up their royal titles is reasonable. Demanding 'leave the girls alone' comes across like an attempt to silence a perfectly valid discussion point.

It feels like someone’s trying to clean up E&B’s image, but they’re missing the point. The best way to do that would be for the York sisters to step back from the sleazy reputation their titles now carry because of their family’s entanglement with JE.

I honestly don't believe all the lurid rumours about Prince Philip. The press would have been on that in an instant.

I feel the set up by Epstein and Maxwell probably ran to dozens of privileged men and many more girls. Is the chasing of Andrew by the world press a deliberate way of sidetracking from these men - Trump ? Why aren’t other girls coming forward or have they been paid off and keeping their heads down.

The other girl involved with VG is suing Guiffres as she says that VG told lies about some of the treatment and events.

The GET Andrew plan seems odd as he is the only one and people are determined to get him and only him in prison or dead. Why not others too?

Many have moved on and don´t want the unwelcome notoriety, or their circle don´t know their past, or they dont want the shit sued out of them, take your pick. That´s not for everyone and that is to be respected.

I totally agree but also feel slightly sad if the trafficking of boys is the catalyst as it implies that society will stand up more against crimes against males as if it’s more shocking somehow

The photo was hardly damning, Andrew with his arm round a happy looking, smiling young woman, with an older woman smiling in the background.

No, I still disagree. It's totally wrong to punish someone for what their parents did.

Last night an episode of 60 Minutes (Australia) aired and an allegation was
made that it wasn’t just girls who were trafficked to Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor by Ghislane and Epstein - there were also young boys.

I’ve included the link below:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hk-9SfptZlU&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD

This allegation never made it into the book because the writer never had a second witness to concur. However, he revealed it in the 60 Minutes interview last night and 60 Minutes aired what is a defamatory allegation - which makes me think that 60 Minutes felt confident it was true (otherwise their lawyers would have killed the story). It was a very short reference but British Police need to interview Ghislane as to Andrew’s other victims.

Further, AIBU to think that the Royal Protection officers should be made to answer questions as to criminality involving Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor?

Also, how can Beatrice & Eugenie still support their disgusting father after everything we know? Do they not care about their own children? Particularly Beatrice’s young step son. Hopefully Andrew is not allowed anywhere near this boy.

I looked up Tony Blair and cottaging. Can’t find anything. Not anything from a reputable source anyway.

@Horsie

You think Philip was ‘decent ‘??

I suppose it depends on your definition of decent but Philip was never loyal to Elizabeth . He had numerous affairs and was linked some believe to the Profumo scandal .
The whole image of the steadfast marriage of Philip and Elizabeth was a lie .

It will all come out now they are dead. That’s the Windsor way . Keep the current beneficiaries at the trough above all.

Some people have mentioned that several of the Windsor men are gay. This seems to be totally unacceptable to the Windsor facade and must be covered up . Lavender marriages and living a lie follow .

This isn’t about punishment, it’s about accountability, respect and compassion. The York sisters have benefited financially and socially from their parents’ dealings with Epstein. While they may not have been directly involved, they still reaped the advantages of Epstein’s wealth and social connections. JE and his entourage were guests at Beatrice’s 18th birthday showing he was treated like a family friend and that the boundaries were blurred.

Royal titles aren’t basic human rights, they’re privileges tied to public trust, symbolism and representation. When someone’s status comes directly from a system of inherited honour it means their public image is inevitably linked to their family’s actions. You can’t separate the inherited title from the legacy it carries.

It would be right for B&E to distance themselves from it all now, out of respect for the victims and for the integrity of the royal institution. Giving up their titles would allow the public to see them and their own families as separate from their parents’ scandals.

I think it's wrong that people can lose everything by being attacked by men who take what they want, and then get away with it, which is the FAR more likely scenario. Men are more likely to be raped themselves than falsely accused of rape: https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/gang-rape-trial-ayia-napa-false-accusation-sexual-assault-cyprus-israel-a9131796.html

I wonder why Beatrice and Eugenie haven’t issued a statement stating their solidarity with the poor victims, especially as Eugenie is involved with a charity supporting abused women?

Given the allegations against Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor and his propensity to lie (and he has absolutely now been proven he was lying) it is blatantly clear that he is morally corrupt and I would go so far as to say he is evil.

It is the public who need protection from this sex pest - particularly minors.

Concerningly his behaviour was carried out in front of Royal protection officers who stood by while he committed crimes. The public was paying for these Royal protection officers. So Randy Andy was kept safe but minors were not.

There needs to be a massive inquiry on how he was able to get away with his disgusting behaviour for years. Even when there were serious allegations against him - he got away with it. He has never had to account for what he did.

I just hope that Beatrice’s step son was never alone with this evil and hideous man.

@Horsie
So many. Here's a couple to get you started.

Something that was mentioned last night in the 60 Minutes interview was that while he did get away with what he did to Virginia (and you are absolutely right - he will never face charges) - there were other occasions where he was in other countries as part of his official Trade delegation duties. It was suggested that it was on these occasions that criminality occurred and it is possible for charges to be made against him. The interviewee was vague but we do know that there has been leaks and it’s highly possible more information will come to light.

When the 60 Minutes interviewer asked this person “where do you think Andrew will be this time next year?” The interviewee responded “in a country without an extradition treaty.” He thought there was enough for Andrew to face charges but he also thought he would never answer those charges.

60 Minutes felt confident to air this episode - which means they had to do background research of their own or face being sued by the money hungry predator himself.

I think there is absolutely more to Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor’s alleged criminal conduct and I think we would all be remiss if we didn’t loudly demand that he face charges.