New allegations against Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor

I remember the Andrew Mitchell case. Why is the url about a different story?

So, my post mentioning Prince Phillip’s close companion was hidden immediately. This always happens when her name is mentioned.

@Horsie the media HAVE on many, many occasions mentioned Prince Phillip’s most serious extra marital relationship. It’s also in The Crown. The Mail in particular have often referred to it. She lived with him at Wood Farm in Sandringham. She was referred to as his ‘close companion’ and very often photographed together. For some reason MN used to delete posts mentioning her name. Let’s see what happens if I do it now. Penelope Knatchbull.

I think he might have had an affair back in the day, but I certainly don't believe the stuff about Penny whatever her name is.

I do not believe any shite about HMQ having an affair or any questions over Andrews father.

I am however curious about the allegations that Andrew lost his virginity at 11 as arranged by a friends father.
WTF is that all about. Who, where, when?

Was he also a victim of abuse?

“shared by most”?

'Most' is meaningless without a defined population. Most of whom?
Most according to what data? Most compared to what baseline?

I’m concerned that some posts here read more like loyal York fan messaging or a very poor attempt at PR. If the latter perhaps it’s time to consider a more professional agency.

These links point to stories about someone called Andrew Mitchell.

there is a declassified fbi report into the unsavoury activities of Lord Mountbatten and his wife. Another declassified fbi report linked Prince Philip to the Profumo affair.

I agree - I don't believe any of the rumours about Prince Philip at all, and never have. Not a single person has ever come forward with any proof, not even anonymously. It's all just lurid, muck-raking rumour.

They wouldn't.

Back later with Phil's inbreeding coefficient. Andy must have got it from somewhere.

It makes no sense as I am not talking about punishing 😊

Re. your first anecdote - wow, how totally bizarre and really sleazy! Yuck. 🤢 All the allegations probably made a lot of sense to you, then.

It was Emily Maitlis we can thank for that. The same Emily Maitlis who hasn't exactly been treated well by the BBC and has suggested that its broadcasting policy is influenced by the Conservative Party.

When Prince Philip died, followed by the Queen, I wondered whether any more evidence would emerge to substantiate the rumours about his behaviour. But no.

He liked to have a joke etc, and he had good friends who were female but I don't think there is any definite proof that he was unfaithful.

He also had experienced the demotion of the monarchy in Greece, and I think he would very much not have wanted to bring the British monarchy into scandal. He seems to have been a very loyal support to the late Queen in many ways.

The view that the two daughters should not be punished in any way because of what their dad did is a view shared by most, including the king. It's a logical, rational view enshrined in the phrase about not punishing offspring for the "sins of the fathers." I'm not sure why you think I make little sense - the viewpoint is very clear to most - or what your issue with the word punishment is. Maybe it's you that should work on your reading comprehension!

And was that FBI report released to the public, or is that yet another unsubstantiated rumour?

Hello? What is it with you and the idea of punishment? Please work on your reading comprehension.

Also, why on freakin earth would I be jealous that they are HRHs and princesses 😂I've been on mn for over a decade but this has got to be one of the most out there posts🎖

I'm afraid, you make very little sense so I stop engaging. But your loyalty to the Yorks is strange. Maybe write them a letter of support, they'd probably appreciate it. Most amusing.

I've encountered AMW twice. The first time was in the 80s and I was a student cycling through my university city and got caught up in his very slow moving motorcade so was forced to dismount and stand till the vehicles passed. His car stopped just where I was standing.

I was very pretty in those days and his eyes somehow locked on me. He stared and stared in an insolent almost challenging manner. I think he was expecting me to smile coyly or drop my gaze or something, but I didn't. I just stared back. He stared back for what seemed like forever. It was very bizarre. Never forgotten it.

The second time was in the early/mid 00s when he was on a trade envoy visit. He clearly had not read his briefing, did not even attempt to feign interest in what he was being shown, and was rude and abrasive.

Regarding any criminal charges in this country - VG was over the age of consent in 2001. Trafficking legislation in this country was not in force until 2003. It cannot be applied retrospectively.

If anything it's probably the alleged financial impropriety that could prove to be his undoing, depending on the evidence.

That’s what I’m thinking.
I also agree with pp’s re Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie; this is a really horrible time for them. I’ve always thought how well they have turned out despite their awful parents but I think the late Queen was a caring and kind influence.
Edited from op to pp due to spellcheck

Because he was ostensibly heterosexual? I don't know, but people do generally care more, see the "live boy or a dead girl" comment from a few pages back. As in being found in bed with a an alive boy is equivalently bad as being found in bed with a dead girl.

My guess is that AMW was stripped of titles and is being banished into a Norfolk exile so that if he is appears in court (accused or witness) he will appear in court papers as Andrew Windsor of Anonymous Sounding Address, Norfolk rather than Prince Andrew of Royal Lodge, Windsor.

The RF will be aware that AMW is entirely devoid of honesty so wont have believed him if he has said there was nothing else to come out.

Is there any evidence that Andrew was involved with trafficked boys? If not, then I do not think it is right to pass judgement over him about this. I’m not excusing him, I just believe he has the right to be considered innocent until proved guilty. So many people have been desperate to call him a paedophile I get the impression they don’t actually care if the allegations against Andrew are true are not.

Why do we care more if he abused boys than if he abused girls?

There is no evidence from reputable news sources, official records, or biographies to support this story. It's widely believed to be a hoax.

Regarding Epstein and all involved, I hope an investigation is able to clear up what's true from what's lurid rumour. And I hope more victims feel able to come forward to help with that.

Stephen Ward? Stephen Ward who was wrongfully charged with living off immoral earnings? Who was hounded to death because he was gay and knew too much? That Stephen Ward? I should imagine many people knew him. It's not exactly a smoking gun, is it?

I didn't know it is reported to be as low as £3m she was given. But that sounds a much more logical figure to me the £12m banded around always seemed wild.

I still think there is lots of stirring around Andrew to keep someone or some others out of the spotlight.
Who are those other men?