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Parents hoarding money

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Antisocialg1t · 02/11/2025 20:38

Speaking to my Dad today and he boasted he saves £2,000 / month and has well in excess of £250,000 sitting in the bank. He was lamenting not having enough places to put his money without paying tax. He also stated that in retirement he's never had it so good compared to his working life.

I can't help but feel resentment. I think this stems from the almost daily grind of raising two children (15 and 13), always wanting the best for them, and sacrificing constantly. I'm hugely motivated by the fact I strongly believe that adult life is going to be harder for them than it was for me and hugely more difficult than it was for my parent's generation. I just can't reconcile feeling how I do about my children, and knowing that my dad thinks very differently about me and my family. It has brought to mind how little he's ever done for my children / his grandchildren, despite being retired for their entire lives. It's also brought into sharp focus how much of his time he's used to save and hoard money, rather than give more of himself.

But I feel huge guilt because this has come up because of a conversation about money.

Anyone else in a similar position?

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GasPanic · 04/11/2025 10:49

Swanlady · 04/11/2025 00:29

Gosh . I am certainly glad I don't have some of the people on here as my kids. Self-entitled doesn't even cut it.

I am 60, hubby is 64 (semi-retired working 3 days a week) and we foster 4 teenagers and we have 3 grown up birth children and 4 grandchildren. Financially, we paid off the mortgage in June, live in a 5 bedroom house and have a rough annual income currently of around 120K a year after tax with a nice nest egg building up. However, I would say we spend a good chunk of our income on expensive holidays (taking the foster kids and some just us) as this is our passion now.

When I joked to my kids that I probably will have nothing to leave them if I am still holidaying like this in my 80s. They all said that they hope I DON'T leave them anything and it doesn't bother them one bit. They all have good careers and will do just fine themselves. I travelled with my kids when they were younger and they wanted for nothing but brought them up to realise that once they were adults they were on their own and they needed to fend for themselves. So they did and they are gorgeous, well adjusted individuals because of it.

Oh and my grandkids get £50 each for Birthday and Christmas. They have parents who now buy them most things like we did with them. I am 100% going to enjoy my retirement and ensuring I have enough money to do this.

Plus.. I am frugal to a degree, as are my kids. Yes I will buy the reduced items, I will always find a 10% off code, i am never off hot deals, I buy from vinted and rarely spend on clothes plus we find wood for the log burner on walks if we can (we keep a chainsaw in the car!)..

This just comes across as a tone deaf boast about "how great my family is doing".

What if your kids weren't in good careers and were struggling through no fault of their own ?

Good careers are often due to hard work, but luck can play a factor as well.

Glitchymn1 · 04/11/2025 10:14

Antisocialg1t · 02/11/2025 21:06

Frugal doesn't begin to describe it.
Three journeys into town a day scheduled to coincide with supermarket reductions. He forages for wood to burn in his log burner so he doesn't have to use his central heating.
A lot of his ego is tied to his financial wealth so it's definitely a habit.

Jesus…..

We save for DD since she was born and DM has put money aside for her too. Can’t imagine not helping my children or grandchildren financially. As for a care home. I’m not saving money for something that might never happen and then dying with thousands! Fuck that shit. My home can pay for care home fees- if push comes to shove.

jaynelou5 · 04/11/2025 10:09

Oh wow, i am glad i am not the only one in this situation.
i am mid 40s with 3 children, single, was recently dismissed from my long term job due to ill health. We are struggling.
My dad is 83, sat on A LOT of money but is obsessed with saving, so much so he drives a 20 year old car, mobile is 15 years old and doesn’t work, he will sit with 3 coats on rather than put heating on all through the winter.
last week I asked him if he could please get me a new car battery as it was flagged up on the service as bad & needs replacing, as were my back brakes. I explained I have spent £800 on the car to get it through MOT which I put on my credit card & would greatly appreciate his help. His reply was well the car started fine today and your front brakes are working fine! I said it’s about safety of me and kids & not being stranded with a flat battery. He started shouting at me, I started to cry & he left. I can only conclude he has zero care for me & my children as I could not imagine allowing my kids to struggle or have an unsafe car when I’ve got so much in the bank doing nothing. I was adopted and I just don’t think he loves me as he would his own.

Changename12 · 04/11/2025 10:08

platinumanddiamonds · 04/11/2025 07:30

Again I’ll highlight from experience social workers do a financial assessment.
Mr A who has claimed benefits for years can be next door in a private care home to Mr B who is privately funded. Same care only difference is different rates they pay. This is the case in Scotland however who knows how it will change in the future.

Councils are increasingly not putting people into care homes as they are so expensive. They are leaving them at home with 3/4 carers a day. I want to be able to make the choice when I get there.
There are a couple of expensive care homes near me that simply do not take council funded patients. Again to have the choice is great.
There is also some pride in not wanting to be funded by the taxpayer.

Londonrach1 · 04/11/2025 09:57

My parents are doing the same although not the huge amount your parents are per month. It's for potential care home fees and possibly private health care if the NHS waiting time is too long. They never ever high earners so this is just state pension and just a small work pension. They owe their house and manage or little. I wish they spend their money on a coffee out and a cake rather than take a flask but their choice

GoldenGirl826 · 04/11/2025 09:56

Not all elderly parents are stingy gits, sitting on a fortune. Thirty years ago (after many years of hard work and saving and loans) we gave our two 21 year old children 100k worth of property each to get them on the property ladder. They have saved many £1,000s in mortgage interest since then, which was our hope.

We could really use some of that money now (no holidays for 4 years - 14 year old car) but we don't regret it for a minute! We manage our money carefully, live within our means and know that we could always ask the DC to help if things got too bad (we probably never will though).

I know others my age who have also substantially helped their children with money and childcare over the years. Please don't judge all the older generation the same as this miserable old Scrooge.

MaturingCheeseball · 04/11/2025 09:54

Having experienced several people in care homes…

If care homes are thin on the ground the LA will be paying for the person in an identical room to the one self-funding.

You can choose your home - up to a point. Mil had advanced dementia and was “bed blocking” in hospital. Dh and bil visited a ton of nursing homes and all bar one turned her down, despite being a self-funder. The homes ask for a report and mil was problematic. Anyway, the only place that would take her was occupied by 95% council-funded people. It was very basic and smelled quite bad although the staff were kind.

Cheeseontoastghost · 04/11/2025 09:33

Tourmalines · 04/11/2025 09:15

That’s surely the choice of the person concerned. State funded care one size fits none . Private care , your money , your rules .

Yes this
The LA will only fund up to a certain amount
If you have the money you can choose where you go, the area you are in, size of room etc
LA will just go for cheapest they can get away with, miles away from family

Perimenoanti · 04/11/2025 09:32

ThisOldThang · 04/11/2025 08:44

Not putting the heating on is clearly unreasonable and foolish.

I don't see anything wrong with them timing their shopping to coincide with supermarket reductions. Retired people are time rich and don't have children to supervise in the evenings.

I earn £100k, but I'm happy to stock up the freezer with yellow sticker items.

What's wrong with foraging for wood? When I was a child we used to do that as a family on a Sunday afternoon.

I do the same. I just love a bargain. It's obviously different wanting to buy yellow sticker food as opposed to having to do it. I think it goes for a lot of things. I like being tight on occasion for things that just aren't worth it for me, but I remember the times when I felt poor and then having to save on everything was just a chore and it grinds you down. But is also meant I wanted out of this so do a lot better now. I know I'm lucky.

No5ChalksRoad · 04/11/2025 09:30

Sexentric · 04/11/2025 08:23

Id get them to rwad A Christmas Carol. They sound very similar to Scrooge. Awful

What a nasty suggestion.

They’re harming no one. People envious of them need to work harder to better themselves, rather than criticize others’ lifestyle choices.

BIossomtoes · 04/11/2025 09:29

TheignT · 04/11/2025 08:45

If you'd seen the awful smelly home social worker was recommending for my aunt, that's where she'd be if her money ran out we were told. We were able to choose a much better home where she has received excellent care for nearly ten years. Oh and no bad smells. I know where I'd rather end up.

This. The other thing about being self funding is that you or your family decide when you need to move into a care home. If the local authority is paying they decide and the bar is way too high. While they’d probably have funded my mum, my dad wouldn’t have qualified. As it was they went in together. It would have killed my dad if they’d been separated after more than 60 years of marriage. I cried when I saw the dreadful “home” the LA favours.

Tourmalines · 04/11/2025 09:15

jonnybriggswasgreat · 04/11/2025 08:14

No, not when you’re living in the same home as state funded people and your riches - that you could have spent to enjoy yourself whilst you were healthy or you could have strategically given away - have been used to pay for that care.

That’s surely the choice of the person concerned. State funded care one size fits none . Private care , your money , your rules .

HeyThereDelila · 04/11/2025 09:10

YABU. If your DPs need to go in to care homes for the last 5 years of their lives then that money will be eaten up very quickly.

If you’re struggling, why not talk to them and ask for help?

Our parents/grandparents generation was a one off anomaly. And they often had it harder in childhood - lower life expectancy, no central heating, ice on the windows in winter, hardly anyone went to uni. I wouldn’t be too envious.

TheignT · 04/11/2025 08:45

jonnybriggswasgreat · 04/11/2025 08:14

No, not when you’re living in the same home as state funded people and your riches - that you could have spent to enjoy yourself whilst you were healthy or you could have strategically given away - have been used to pay for that care.

If you'd seen the awful smelly home social worker was recommending for my aunt, that's where she'd be if her money ran out we were told. We were able to choose a much better home where she has received excellent care for nearly ten years. Oh and no bad smells. I know where I'd rather end up.

ThisOldThang · 04/11/2025 08:44

Not putting the heating on is clearly unreasonable and foolish.

I don't see anything wrong with them timing their shopping to coincide with supermarket reductions. Retired people are time rich and don't have children to supervise in the evenings.

I earn £100k, but I'm happy to stock up the freezer with yellow sticker items.

What's wrong with foraging for wood? When I was a child we used to do that as a family on a Sunday afternoon.

Sexentric · 04/11/2025 08:23

AlexaBeQuiet · 02/11/2025 22:21

Same!

Drive from 1 supermarket to another as milk is 10p cheaper
Won’t put the heating on
Won’t eat out
Main meals are from the Tesco reduced counter
Or they make a main meal for 2 last 3 days
No new clothes
Sit in the dark, as won’t turn lights on
Millions in the bank.

Id get them to rwad A Christmas Carol. They sound very similar to Scrooge. Awful

jonnybriggswasgreat · 04/11/2025 08:14

Tourmalines · 04/11/2025 04:01

Better to be the richest man in the graveyard than the poorest man in the nursing home .

No, not when you’re living in the same home as state funded people and your riches - that you could have spent to enjoy yourself whilst you were healthy or you could have strategically given away - have been used to pay for that care.

Anonymouseposter · 04/11/2025 07:58

Regarding care homes. My Mum lived until she was 97 and was in a nursing home for her final five years. Some people there were self funded, others had continuing health care and others were funded by the local authority. There was absolutely no difference in the service they received and the self funded residents were subsidising the others. When savings ran out the local authority took over. If I had the sort of money some of your parents seem to I would be treating people. Wonder where I went wrong, worked in the NHS with only a four year break and , although comfortable have nothing like that amount of savings. Do have a house but I live in it.

platinumanddiamonds · 04/11/2025 07:30

jonnybriggswasgreat · 03/11/2025 21:23

Again, there are hardly any council run homes anymore. I can’t believe this naivety still goes on about self funders living in the bells and whistles care homes and the state funded people are living in the shit homes.

Again I’ll highlight from experience social workers do a financial assessment.
Mr A who has claimed benefits for years can be next door in a private care home to Mr B who is privately funded. Same care only difference is different rates they pay. This is the case in Scotland however who knows how it will change in the future.

dearydeary · 04/11/2025 07:00

ensayers · 04/11/2025 04:57

Easiest way to accumulate wealth is have no kids. But if everyone did that then there wouldnt be a mumsnet lol. 20+ years ago when i worked in financial services, the estimated total cost of raising a child through to 18 was £180,000.
I bet its a whole load more now, and that didnt include uni either!

Absolutely this⬆️

SatsumaDog · 04/11/2025 05:32

ensayers · 04/11/2025 04:57

Easiest way to accumulate wealth is have no kids. But if everyone did that then there wouldnt be a mumsnet lol. 20+ years ago when i worked in financial services, the estimated total cost of raising a child through to 18 was £180,000.
I bet its a whole load more now, and that didnt include uni either!

This! Kids cost an absolute fortune. Lovely as they are, they’re not cheap.

ensayers · 04/11/2025 04:57

Easiest way to accumulate wealth is have no kids. But if everyone did that then there wouldnt be a mumsnet lol. 20+ years ago when i worked in financial services, the estimated total cost of raising a child through to 18 was £180,000.
I bet its a whole load more now, and that didnt include uni either!

Tourmalines · 04/11/2025 04:01

T1Dmama · 04/11/2025 01:26

Congratulate him…. He’ll be the richest
man in the graveyard!

Better to be the richest man in the graveyard than the poorest man in the nursing home .

WhichTeam · 04/11/2025 03:55

HereAreYourOptions · 03/11/2025 22:13

It still amazes me that some people seem to be able to wave their children off as adults, dust off their hands, think 'job done' and then never feel any sense of responsibilty ever again for them.

As if these lives they created, that literally would not exist but for the choices they made, are now the equivalent of old photographs that they occasionally glance at as a reminder of what their life used to be like while they go off and enjoy the next chapter.

What kind of parent doesn't want their children to have a better life than they had, or at least one as good? And if they have the ability to help make that happen and don't? Well, I know what kind of parent, and what kind of a person, I think that makes them.

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Part of being a responsible parent is making sure you provide for your old age well enough that you won't put pressure on your grown children to bridge gaps and provide the care you could buy in for yourself. If that means a delay in passing down wealth to ensure your solvency in old age, so be it.

T1Dmama · 04/11/2025 01:26

Congratulate him…. He’ll be the richest
man in the graveyard!