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Aibu and an ungrateful cow?

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Thimgsaregettingweird · 02/11/2025 19:51

My mil has always done us a Christmas hamper.

Just to be clear we’ve never asked her for this and we are not hard up for food or anything like that but it was always a lovely welcome gesture. She’d put in some treats like a tub of chocolates, some hot chocolate, nice dips/sauces/chutney, crisps, biscuits, a few cooking sauces and a bottle of wine.

The past few years the hampers have gone really weird. It’s like she’s cleared out the back of her cupboards and there’ll be 10 tins of value/basics soup, a tin of corned beef/spam/tinned meatballs, a lot of the things are out of date with the record being something THREE YEARS out of date. Half used bottles of handwash and things that have clearly been regifted because they’re dirty/used.

Mil is not short of money.

I wouldn’t ever say anything to her, but aibu to feel it’s a bit of an insult giving us a hamper of out of date and weird random items?

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Pessismistic · 11/11/2025 19:33

Thimgsaregettingweird · 02/11/2025 20:23

One thing I didn’t add that is relevant.

We don’t live near mil, but will usually see her and fil over the Christmas period to exchange gifts so it could be between Xmas Eve and Boxing Day.

But mil will request that dh drives over to collect the hamper in the days leading up to Christmas so that we have got our hamper in time to enjoy it before Christmas.

It’s not even like she’s doing it to get dh to visit though, because she leaves it in the porch for him as mil and fil are usually out.

Hi op maybe your dh should say I can’t get there before Christmas so let’s leave the hampers from now on then say we will do presents as usual and if she wants to do a hamper tell her to give it to a food bank then she might just not bother.

ParmaVioletTea · 07/11/2025 08:27

How old is she? Could it be a sign of early dementia? It sounds out of character for her.

Purplecatshopaholic · 07/11/2025 08:09

This is just the sort of weird shit my ex MIL used to pull. I still remember the year of OOD fruit tea bags (we didn’t drink fruit tea), budget brand toothpaste (?!) and cling film. In fairness, everyone got cling film that year..! I dont know what my ex got her, she was batshit and totally his problem. I just used to laugh about it.

SquishyGloopyBum · 07/11/2025 08:02

If you won’t talk to her, or your DH won’t, just don’t go and collect it. Especially if they just leave it on the porch.

id also not get the things she asks for either.

Whereismyfleeceblanket · 06/11/2025 19:19

Maybe you have unknowingly pissed her off.
Regift the hamper. Stop adhering to her wish list in future.

daleylama · 05/11/2025 17:53

I'd be returning the compliment and giving her a Xmas wish list of my own. And keep a weather eye out for other odd behaviour. Being youngish and fit doesn't preclude the onset of dementia.

AgnesX · 03/11/2025 16:59

There are some really strange families out there - why isn't your DH plonking the whole thing back on her kitchen table and going through the contents with her.

If she's that fragile with him; he needs to tell her just not to bother.

123456789xyz · 03/11/2025 16:54

Thimgsaregettingweird · 02/11/2025 20:03

She’s fine health wise, she’s quite young and only in her 60s.

Dh did mention it to her, I think it was the Christmas before last. She’d sent something, we went to eat some and it was completely gone off. They was the thing that was 3 years out of date.

Dh tried to excuse it, like with the half used handwash he says perhaps it leaked, but it hadn’t leaked in the hamper and besides, there were too many used, broken, out of date things for it to be a one off.

I don’t think I’d have the heart to tell her she’s giving us a bag of crap but I’m glad it’s not just me who thinks it’s strange.

Its not really usual to give someone out of date tins, tinned meat and used toiletries as a Christmas treat is it?

My mum started showing signs of dementia in her mid-50s. Also a strong, active, fit, dynamic woman with a job etc. This sort of thing was one of the first signs.

I wouldn't so easily discount that she isn't okay. I would also discuss it with her, or have your partner do so.

DBD1975 · 03/11/2025 16:47

RoseAlone · 02/11/2025 20:09

I would be more concerned about her health than not getting enough goodies

This totally OP, whilst there might not be any other signs, this could be the first sign even if going on for a couple of years.
There will be other things but she is probably better at hiding them.

zingally · 03/11/2025 16:46

ohyesido · 02/11/2025 19:53

Is she quite all right? My first thought was perhaps deteriorating health

That was my first thought as well.

My grandma used to do a family hamper for us when I was growing up. Lovely stuff in it, and decently high-value, because they weren't short of money.
But in her last few years it got weird. Instead of fancy biscuits and cakes, we got multipacks of kitchen sponges and single yellow dusters.
There was maybe two years of weird, then it turned out she had dementia.

WiddlinDiddlin · 03/11/2025 16:36

Oooh yes the update shows that the nice treaty hamper is the anomaly here... not the crap hamper.

I wonder if she was getting the nice hamper for free for some reason and regifting it, either unaware of how nice the stuff in it was, or not caring as its not the sort of thing she likes.

Now, she's no longer getting the free hamper, doesn't have it to regift, feels trapped into providing some sort of hamper... so is making one up out of utter trash from her cupboards.

Pugdays5 · 03/11/2025 16:16

Thimgsaregettingweird · 02/11/2025 20:09

I’m not sure but I always personally said thank you before and commented that we had really enjoyed them so I wouldn’t say we were ungrateful.

I was just highlighting that we aren’t desperate for food where we needed 10 out of date tins. The hampers were a treat (or so I thought).

These hampers have been going on for 20 years but the past few years they have become weirder and weirder.

Dementia obviously

Windypopswoo · 03/11/2025 16:02

My MIL was extremely generous with food when I first met her. Would over buy for when we visited, lots of treats, if anything got near a sell by date it would thrown out before you could blink.

She has done a complete 180 in the last few years. She now lives alone and gets really stressed over every little bit of food. When we go to visit now, we even have to take some essentials with us as she will get so stressed over buying things that might not get fully used up. One poor piece of lettuce kept being presented at every meal in a tiny ramekin (it was literally a shred) until it was brown and limp. She had to be persuaded it was OK to throw it away.

She also says its because she was born in the post war generation but it isn't, it's a new thing for her.

Again, plenty of money and very secure so that isn't a factor.

I know it's slightly different but it's so noticeably different to how it used to be. I think it's because although her life is full of friends and family, due to losing her husband and retiring, her world has shrunk daily.

IridiumSky · 03/11/2025 16:02

Hilarious! 😀
Buy some used, useless rubbish, eg some tasteless china ornament in a charity shop (which you chip if it isn’t chipped already) then gift it to her this year.
See if she says anything.

thepariscrimefiles · 03/11/2025 15:53

Thimgsaregettingweird · 03/11/2025 07:17

Yes she gives us all presents, the hamper is separate.

Tbh her gifts have always been wild. For example she’d buy dh loads of clothes in size small when he’s quite clearly at least an XL, but she’d never have the receipts. Or stuff she should know he’s allergic to, stuff for a bicycle when he doesn’t have a bicycle, things like that. That went on for years. Dh asked her to stop though and she did. I’d always get a random selection from home bargains.

She always tells us what she wants in August 🤣

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Does she ask for expensive gifts for herself? If so, I wouldn't buy what she has asked for. I would save the crap from the previous year's hamper and re-gift it to her.

Nearly50omg · 03/11/2025 15:49

Well you know what to give her this year!! Random shit she gave you last year and stuff you don’t want from the bottom of the cupboard and random shit from B&M!! Ignore her lists!! She is well aware of what she is doing and this is passive aggressive - she is not a nice person and this is only out of spite she is doing this to you and your husband. I guess he isn’t the golden child or the favourite and your kids are not the favourite grandchildren?

NorthSouthEast · 03/11/2025 15:48

I think the update you’ve provided on the sort of presents she usually buys is telling. The nice hampers were an anomaly (perhaps regifted and she hadn’t realised they were nice, and now she’s making her own).

It seems all her present choices are odd
/ thoughtless / mean. It’s the sort of stuff you read about on the stately homes threads about narcissistic parents.

HelenaWaiting · 03/11/2025 15:43

My Dad became extremely anxious about money in his later years, despite being pretty well off.

FastTurtle · 03/11/2025 15:42

I don’t think this is Alzheimer’s/Dementia and that’s saying it as a daughter of someone that started showing signs in their early 60’s and is now in a nursing home in their early 70’s.

OP I think you need to tell your DH that you both don’t want anymore hampers and then think up an excuse such as you’re trying to eat less tinned and more fresh food.

naemates · 03/11/2025 15:32

My in-laws love shopping and hate throwing stuff out. But they buy indiscriminately and end up with so much (shite) they don’t want or need but won’t part with because charity should begin at home and food banks just give to immigrants. A mental loophole is that they can give it to me and DH and they do whether we want it or not. Rather than fight it, I just give it to the charities and foodbanks. I’ve always considered it vaguely generational (not the racism etc, but the saving for a rainy day at any cost way of thinking) Just wondering if it could just be that, as the only difference is that ours doesn’t come in a nice basket

MyMilchick · 03/11/2025 14:04

ohyesido · 02/11/2025 19:53

Is she quite all right? My first thought was perhaps deteriorating health

Yeah same here, seems like a weird thing to do especially putting opened things in there

JaneyDC · 03/11/2025 14:00

My nan's alzheimer's disease began to really show in her early 60s.

If my MIL gave us a hamper filled with crap like that, my DP would get the point across with a 'joke' laced with honesty, e.g. "Mum, you do know we can afford to buy our own baked beans and spam?! Did you get bored of this hand wash half way through?!"
We don't expect or need gifts, but we would definitely question a box of clearly used and out of date stuff, even just to say please stop, it is not necessary!

TeddySchnauzer · 03/11/2025 10:04

Oh god this reminds me of my ex-best friend of 20+ years who was always notoriously tight, and her gift to me once… A big hamper, containing 2 reduced tops from Primark in 4 sizes too small for me (she knew my size), some very old bottles of Dove, a toiletries gift set that was faded and bent, basically all the crap she no longer wanted and/or had been given many christmases ago.
She was incredibly proud of herself for it, too! It was the only time in all our years of friendship that she’d ever given me any kind of gift - despite what I’d bought for her and her DD previously.
YADNBU OP, it’s insulting.

SilverPink · 03/11/2025 09:52

Thimgsaregettingweird · 03/11/2025 07:17

Yes she gives us all presents, the hamper is separate.

Tbh her gifts have always been wild. For example she’d buy dh loads of clothes in size small when he’s quite clearly at least an XL, but she’d never have the receipts. Or stuff she should know he’s allergic to, stuff for a bicycle when he doesn’t have a bicycle, things like that. That went on for years. Dh asked her to stop though and she did. I’d always get a random selection from home bargains.

She always tells us what she wants in August 🤣

Edited

This sounds like my Inlaws. They buy the weirdest shit without putting any thought into it. We stopped buying for them years ago, and suggested they did the same, but they still buy 🤷🏻‍♀️ I think it’s more so they can feel good about themselves than actually wanting to buy something we would like. Charity shops do well out of us after Christmas 😂

Sockdays · 03/11/2025 09:06

She's mean.
Or she has grown mean with age.
What would annoy me more is your husband gaslighting you that its a mistake, leaking soap.
That would piss me off more.