The racism on the Huntingdon train threads is appaling

There are racists everywhere. A friend of mine was murdered and the stuff that was said about him was horrific. They dragged his name through the mud. He was called a pedophile. It was suggested that he groomed the person that killed him. That she was his drug mule. She said in court that he was kind to her. That he was a mentor to her. That he was never inappropriate with her. That in a moment of anger she stabbed him. He lost his life but the trolls destroyed his name.

Firstly, I would point out that we live in an era where terrorist attacks are not unusual and there have been previous terrorist attacks where knives were used. Under which circumstances it is not racist to speculate about the identity of the perpetrators, and whilst I appreciate that the police did state that it was not terrorism-related, the information was drip-fed and you have to accept that at least some of the people speculating had not seen the police statement when they posted.

I am mixed-race and I have to say that I am heartily sick of people (many of whom have never experienced racism themselves) calling out racism where none exists. Rooting out posts for speculation and reporting them, when you know that moderators will delete just because there has been a complaint, and then triumphantly posting about it as if it makes one a dispenser of justice, is a particularly foul form of bigotry.

We're living in a powder-keg in this country. Telling people they can't express their fears and then jumping down their throats when they do so clumsily doesn't help any of us. I am proud of my heritage, but if I am subjected to racism I will deal with it, and I don't need someone who can't even define the term muddying the waters in order to make themselves feel superior.

Let's get this right.

Yes, up to last year (afaik), we had a million odd immigrants come. Guess what? Nearly all of those people were granted visas by our government to come work/study here.

Then, you complain about the infrastructure. This is a valid point.
However, who do you think is in charge of our infrastructure? The same government who grants those visas.

The same government who actually CUT the funding for years, under austerity, for all those things we need, schools, NHS, housing etc while still granting record numbers of visas.

Who really is to blame here? The immigrants or our flipping governments? Let's get angry with the right people.

I can name a few mass shoutings by white British men, but not stabbings. There may have been some, but aside from serial killers like Jack the Ripper, knives don’t seem to be the weapon of choice for white men here.

So the poster stating that ‘our’ mass attackers don’t seem to use methods ‘like this’, is probably true.

Are you really trying to justify racist views as 'correct'?

What, you read actual reports of people being attacked by Muslim immigrants here on MN? Or do you read fellow racist views and accept those as facts?

You will be pleased to know then that net migration has fallen considerably

It’s disgusting that Mumsnet even allows racist posts. I’m also shocked at how much racism is affecting the decision making of the police: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/nov/02/police-disclose-ethnicity-suspects-far-right-speculation?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

How odd. That you are coming on here to tell people they are racist for feeling worried about their safety, and yet you acknowledge we have huge problems, and still you are not offering any actual solutions. Maybe I haven’t seen the threads you are alluding to, but I do think the gov urgently need to get a grip.

Fact:

https://electoral-reform.org.uk/latest-yougov-poll-shows-multi-party-britain-breaking-the-voting-system/

How quickly you've gone from "I'm just a poor worried citizen" to spouting Elon Musk's poison.

You could at least try and be subtle about it.

The infrastructure you talk about would collapse without the input of migrants over the years.

keep telling people?! Who is telling people?

It is fact. Millions are arriving every year. That is fact. Are you suggesting it isn’t true? It’s not ‘racism’ to point out that it’s putting unbearable strain on infrastructure, housing, hospitals and social care.

that he said, or assumed by onlookers?

You can keep telling yourself that if it brings you comfort. Every single day there’s another rape being committed by men who haven’t long been in the country. We’re not a serious country anymore that prioritises the safety and security of citizens.

A very much under discussed phenomenon in the US is that, when black men are less likely to be incarcerated (often ebbing and flowing with political climate), black females will commit more homicides. Some years it will be, on a per capita basis, higher than white males. Always higher than East Asian males, at any rate.

Now these particular crimes are not very much discussed because they tend to be (though obvs not exclusively) family based, so do not affect the wider community (however it can and should be discussed and better understood).

If you keep telling people that civil war is coming and they're about to be attacked by hordes of invading migrants then the country will start to feel less safe, obviously.

But that is a useful idea for many situations. Attemped rape etc.

What I see is a lot of fact free fear mongers. Who would want that? Does it help the UK?

Reporting racist posts is at least doing something - more productive than e.g. sending thoughts and prayers. What other actions do you suggest?

You can’t see the growing issues in our country? Maybe you live in the highlands or in a bubble somewhere, because from where I am sitting the situation looks critical.

Wasn't it Alan's snackbar.

I see it on here duh. I read real live experiences.

As well as programming Grok to spread misinformation