Andrew and social services

I don't understand. Please could you explain what you mean? Was there some scandal?

This Andrew debacle is horrific. Paying £12m to someone he claims never to have met - do we know yet how he funded that settlement? And why does he think it's acceptable to refuse to answer questions in the US??? He should be falling over himself to answer and clarify matters, because isn't the very purpose of the royal family to set example, to be figureheads of integrity and propriety? If not, then what is the friggin point of them!?

I've always been a low key royalist, but i'm absolutely sick of the lot of them now. The level of privilege afforded them is entirely inappropriate in the modern age. I've tried to like king charles, but I just find him grumpy and cold. And both his sons seem to share his arrogant and detached manner. And the king is planning now on putting Andrew up at one of his palatial homes and bank rolling him? Nah.

Virgina was trafficked so she could not consent. Here is a basic explanation of the lawConsent is irrelevant for a determination of human trafficking, as traffickers often use deception, coercion, or violence to gain a person's agreement. Even if a victim initially agreed to travel or work, that consent is legally negated if it was obtained through means that led to their exploitation. A person can be considered a victim of trafficking even if they are an adult and may have "consented" to their travel, as exploitation is the key factor. Due to her traumatic childhood she was a very vulnerable person and Maxwell and Epstein were very adept at targeting and recruiting young girls and women. I don't know about you but I find the fact that Andrew guessed her age as it was similar to his daughters' stomach churning

I agree

😂@ princess Diana being portrayed as an innocent young virgin who was duped by the Royal family.

They're an unsavoury family all round. Prince Phillip consorting with Stephen Ward and his circle in the Harley Street flat. His uncle Mountbatten and his alleged activities in a Northern Ireland care home for boys. Princess Margaret, an abusive drunk and her ex Snowden and his antics. QE2's uncle who abdicated and consorted with Nazis. Princess Ann slept with Parker Bowles the same time as Camilla. Then the RF duping an innocent young virgin Diana into being a brood mare with a man who had no intention of honouring his marriage vows.

The cynic in me suggests it’s great PR to have a working Royal championing the cause against sexual violence in war, at a time where the Monarchy is mired in a sexual scandal. The very savvy press teams would be aware of that.

But, better she’s there than not, I guess.

Andrew is a scumbag but he's unlikely to be a paedophile. He's just a bloke who (allegedly) slept with a pretty young girl because he was presented with the opportunity and she was readily available. There would be a hell of a lot of men who would have done the same in his position.

Hi, there would probably be an assessment on any under 18s he has/had access to. This would be standard with any allegations, regardless of police investigation/convictions.

Ah. We're not dealing with sane people.

I forget how the royal chat threads can be.

The problem is the firm buried any investigation. He’s never had his electronic media reviewed. Because there were no charges he’s got away with what he did.

He’s untouchable.

We need to all be vocal for an end to the British monarchy. It’s time.

Is her father still in the line of succession to the throne? Did his actions threaten the monarchical structure of the U.K and risk throwing us into a constitutional crisis? Was it part of a trafficking ring which has involved some of the most powerful people across the world?

Totally agree

Would need a detailed forensic assessment to work out the risk. My view is that there are allegations that he has sex with a exploited minor. I would think that noone is off the table for him.

At the very least all his devices need checking by the police in case he ever dipped below girls who were over 16 but looked a lot younger.

Never heard of her? Do you live under a rock? - she's the wife of Andrew's brother Edward! How have you not heard of her? And it is very relevant!

Even if he did not know at the time, he knows now. He, at the very least, knows there is a chance the rumours are true. He has names, dates, locations. He is a font of information that could allow a proper investigation put this thing to bed one way or another.

Whether he had sex with Virginia is largely irrelevant. He now knows what she claims she endured at the hands of Epstein. If Epstein was his friend, he should want to do that to clear Epstein’s name. He could do that whilst still protesting his innocence. He could do the decent thing and make a statement that supports the victims of abuse, that he is saddened about what happened to Virginia and if it turns out she was in fact trafficked by his friend for sex, that he abhors what he did.

Andrew has never done that. Now that he has been freed from the shackles of the Royal Family, and his role in protecting the firm has been removed, he should be entirely able to do that. I can’t fathom what his reasons would be not to do that, if he is indeed innocent of ever knowing anything.

Are you also as worried about Virginia G father who raped her according to her? there is not proof of the things you are saying. I couldn’t care less about Andrew but the obsession is beyond the charts.

Hi, I am a child and family social worker. In circumstances like this, a referral woukd be made, usually from police. Social workers would assess and work with the family, usually safety planning, such as a safe parent (usually the mother) would ensure children are not left alone with alleged perpetrator. It doesmt matter if there is a conviction or not.

Bit of a leap to go from the reported information that he likes young women and not caring if they are trafficked or prostituted for him (which is bad enough and deserves imo further investigation/criminal charges against him) and being a paedophile (prepubescent children)

Horrible, pompous, entitled man who didn’t stop to think that a clearly trafficked teenager might not want to have sex with him - yes.

Guilty of sleeping with countless women under the same circumstances - probably.

A paedophile posing a threat to children - no evidence whatsoever.

Never heard of her and I doubt many others have either. Completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.

Give me a break. Everyone knew Saville was a paedo. You think Charles’s highly sophisticated security team had no idea? What was the attraction I wonder? The Royals are huge snobs and Saville was so uncouth.

Also Charles’s favourite uncle was another one.

Something rotten in the state of Denmark.

No, social services would not be getting involved if he was an ordinary man. There's nothing to suggest he is a pedophile and his children are adults. This isn't a defence of him, if what is reported is true he is disgusting but there's no role for social services.

Were they always? Born that age were they?