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Awful neighbours or me? Finally moving

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finallymoving22 · 01/11/2025 07:38

Have lived in my HA house for a little over a year now.
Nothing but nuisance of the children, I'm talking about playing out at 6:30am, shouting and screaming waking my kids up.

Trespassing on my driveway, throwing things at my car, chucking mud at my house, footballs being kicked at my windows, the list is endless.

I brought planters and fencing to block it all of and that caused the parents of these kids to take issue with me and stopped talking to me.

I spoke to the council who were pretty useless and advised me they couldn't do an "arranged move" as "these issues court occur anywhere".

The final straw came when one of my neighbours made me aware that she was watching me and who visits me on her Ring door bell and as I have previously been a victim of DV and stalking this started of some anxiety issues for me as she would constantly watch and then proceed in asking intrusive questions after.

Me and OH have saved some money during the last 10 months this has been occurring and family will also chip in when we finally leave here December before Xmas and give the home up.

There is a Facebook and WhatsApp group chat and I have never been invited to join either (older lady I am friendly with told me about it).

I was putting up Halloween decorations yesterday and my NDN came out and asked me "if everything was OK as she had seen a HA rep attend the property on Thursday and it looked very formal" (was our HA officer who had come to inspect the property before giving our new landlord a reference).

I basically told her to mind her own business and to never question my visitors again and she walked off.

I have pretty much bene ostracised here just for putting up a fence and not allowing kids to damage my car etc, I have never been rude or nasty and I just feel awful like I am the problem here.

I used to take in this neighbours parcels and bins whilst she was at work and she created a WhatsApp group and didn't even invite me, despite us never having issues but she sided with the other parents here.

AIBU to feel like this?

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Sassylovesbooks · 03/11/2025 18:11

Ah, the woman in your street sounds a bit like an elderly woman who lives opposite my parents. Her husband used to be a local councillor, and died a few years ago now. She has cameras on her own property overlooking a proportion of the road - nothing wrong in that - other than she uses the footage to ask intrusive questions to other neighbours, including my parents. It's almost as if she thinks she's special because her husband was a councillor (by all accounts not a very good one from what I've heard!) and she's 'Queen Bee' of the road, poking her nose into other people's business. We had a woman with 3 children living in a rented house that backed onto ours - her youngest would be outside shouting/screaming at 6.30 am whilst in the garden and she'd be telling her mates on loudspeaker on her phone, the latest drama in her life (of which there was a lot!) whilst sat in the garden. The child isn't SEN, he's noisy because Mum spends all her time glued to her phone, whilst chain smoking, and he's ignored. So I have sympathy for you OP. Be grateful you are moving and hope your new neighbours will be more considerate and respectful.

Overdonecabbage · 03/11/2025 14:46

How long until you move ?

finallymoving22 · 03/11/2025 14:40

@EvelynBeatricethank you x

@DuckbilledSplatterPuff Yes I didn't want to add more fuel to the fire and more reasons for gossip and "he said, she said", and thank you x

@Otterdrunk- These are my thoughts exactly, it was never just a causal friendly conversation. It always felt like an information finding exercise for them.
I am glad people are becoming aware of how she really is -an interfering nosey busy body always in people's business and talking about them.

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Otterdrunk · 03/11/2025 13:35

JillMW · 02/11/2025 18:21

Is that not normal neighbourly conversation?

I don’t find this normal conversation - but I do think a lot of people have very different boundaries. You might share this as you get to know someone but this woman is asking for specific details - the reason they moved there? What actual company she works for? Why her husband is away? Why is it any of her business? None of the info is necessary for her to know, she’s already answered her own questions pretty much anyway & according to OP she uses it as information to gossip about her behind her back. I think we’ve all been on the receiving end of nosy busy body’s who pump you for information that doesn’t feel conversational & more an information finding exercise for them.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 03/11/2025 11:15

That really does prove you are not the only one that thinks this neighbour is a complete pain and pest. I think you were wise to not get caught up in it or say why you were moving. I wish you all the best in your new home OP it will be a weight off your shoulders.

EvelynBeatrice · 03/11/2025 10:46

I wish you every happiness in your new home.

finallymoving22 · 03/11/2025 10:41

@oviraptor21- Thank you for sharing that, I will have a look.

Update:
When I was collecting the bin in this morning her other neighbour was getting hers and approached me and gestured to talk away from said neighbours door/ring door bell and thanked me for the treats I gave her kids on Halloween.

She also asked if I was OK and she mentioned that she was aware of the tension between me and said neighbour and mentioned her own issues with her.

Exactly the same as me, she said she thought she was OK at first, but came to find her nosy, over bearing, and a stirrer who gossips about everyone.

I didn't say much as I don't want to dragged into anyone else's drama, but it made me feel better knowing it wasn't just me who felt this way.

I never mentioned that we were moving though.

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JillMW · 02/11/2025 18:21

finallymoving22 · 01/11/2025 11:57

No what will happen is I will be out sorting out the plants etc or on my way out with the kids and she will be leaving her house, or coming back from a walk etc and start a convo with me first.

She always starts the convo first.

When I was on friendlier terms with her she would just causally ask questions into the convo.
"I notice your husband is works away a lot, what does he do for a job?"

"He as a London accent why have you guys moved here?"

"So I notice you have had some older relatives visiting? Grandparents?"

"I notice you must work from home, which company do you work for"?

She is always up on everyone's business as she used to try and gossip with me about my other neighbour but I cut her short.

Is that not normal neighbourly conversation?

Differentforgirls · 02/11/2025 13:10

Overdonecabbage · 02/11/2025 07:09

if you’re moving to private, the HA doesn’t view your reasons for the move as such that they will authorise and support a move to another HA property presumably?

Still at it? Tedious.

finallymoving22 · 02/11/2025 07:52

@Phoenixfire1988sorry you went through that, it sounds like you had neighbours from hell!

@GoldfoxwifeMy rent is similar to yours as well and I live in a small town.
Having bad neighbours can really affect your quality of life.

I leave the house and hope that I don't bump into her or her crew.

This is the 1st HA property that I lived in and it's a very different experience from when we privately rented.

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Overdonecabbage · 02/11/2025 07:09

if you’re moving to private, the HA doesn’t view your reasons for the move as such that they will authorise and support a move to another HA property presumably?

Goldfoxwife · 02/11/2025 02:26

finallymoving22 · 01/11/2025 14:47

It's funny how other people have encountered problems with her and her kids have thrown her kids bikes into the road, have been to her front door and to tell her to "f off" when she has been been round demanding to know who has damaged her kids bikes etc.

The Housing Officer is aware of the issues (I have asked for a managed move many times) but all she can say is report it as anti social behaviour and I know there have been other complaints so it is not just me.

Op I'm in your position I have a housing association new build well now 4 years old lived here since it was built and neighbours are neighbours from hell I literally don't talk to them never have suffer ptsd myself due to previous dv and still having issues now literally graffiti sprayed on my wall recently and contacted police who said no evidence no witness tough shit basically giving up my house in December to leave the hell and people will say oh you going private it wont be cheap lol my housing association is £850 a month I'm not in a city or major town either

Phoenixfire1988 · 02/11/2025 01:13

People dont really understand unless they live next to a feral family however 13years ago I left a dv relationship moved and my neighbour complained constantly she said my bin was overflowing attracting rats , I sent pictures of said bin and the fact between us 6 cats were there ! She posted on a local group my son was left screaming in bed on a night when we co slept the final straw was her reporting my mams staffy as a pit bull when he was in every way shape and frm the definition of a staffy I bred him myself 🙄 i left after less than a year .

finallymoving22 · 01/11/2025 21:30

@crispychipsthank you x

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finallymoving22 · 01/11/2025 21:29

Thank you to the kind posters on here.
I do feel isolated living here, whilst I do prefer to keep myself to myself it would be nice to have the option to be included in things or to be asked.

I was initially friendly with my neighbour until she started those social media groups and excluded me and I stopped doing her favours as friendliness is a two way street.

It was after all this that her nosiness began to bother me and again I find it intrusive for someone to question one's visitors and make it be known that they are watching you on their Ring door bell.

If she was watching and didn't say anything I wouldn't be that bothered but it's the point of how she makes it be known when I respect her privacy and don't ask personal or intrusive questions but that'd just me.

There is about 3/4 mums here who have this "group" as one poster mentions runs the estate, that is what her and her other neighbour are doing.
Not just to me but to another neighbour who objected to their kids behaviour as well.

I know people say HA properties are hard to obtain and I am extremely grateful for mine but my happiness is more important and I just hate living here so much.
My house is a mid terrace and bang in the middle so there is no escaping them.

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Antigny86 · 01/11/2025 20:19

Overdone cabbage has overdone her point.
Ignore the negaive posts op, good luck with your move.

crispychips · 01/11/2025 19:54

don't listen to the posters attacking you. there are a lot of weirdo / incel / red pill men and odd women here. you are not the issue. the neighbour most certainly is and has no concept of boundaries.

GehenSieweiter · 01/11/2025 18:04

Bringyourfoldingchair · 01/11/2025 15:56

Anyone watched the perfect neighbour on Netflix? 😂

Yes.
Two thoughts: guns are bad, and annoying kids can make someone's life hell.

Overdonecabbage · 01/11/2025 18:01

And not just any HA property

a brand spanking new property!

Bluejaysforthewin · 01/11/2025 17:28

Op, I pointed out the previous thread because the responses there were pretty unanimous that this woman who was acting in a similar way to your neighbour was definitely the problem. Don't give her another inch if headspace. Life is to short to put up with shitty neighbours.

Seymour5 · 01/11/2025 17:22

Flameup · 01/11/2025 09:26

She started the neighbourhood group

I am guessing she’s lived there for a long time

whereas you… less than a year

I imagine she’s a well respected and involved member of the community

Or feared. I used to work in social housing, on some estates families who are long time residents rule the roost. They can make other residents’ lives uncomfortable. Sounds like there’s some of that going on.

I worked with residents’ groups, some were really community minded, and did their best for their neighbourhoods. Other groups struggled because of factions within. Excluding one neighbour from a community group is unpleasant IMO.

CornishTiger · 01/11/2025 17:20

As a HO though I would potentially write a letter reminding residents that all occupants and visitors should be aware of their actions so as not to disturb their neighbours particularly early morning or evenings.

That they should not enter other people’s property including driveways and gardens nor allow other things to do.

I would also remind them that Ring door bells are subject to the domestic cctv regulations and be positioned so the CCTV to minimises intrusion into neighbours’ and other people’s privacy.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/domestic-cctv-using-cctv-systems-on-your-property/domestic-cctv-using-cctv-systems-on-your-property

I would also consider mediation if both parries were amendable.

Guidance on the use of domestic CCTV

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/domestic-cctv-using-cctv-systems-on-your-property/domestic-cctv-using-cctv-systems-on-your-property

Happyjoe · 01/11/2025 17:18

Honestly, some people are just tossers. I would stop trying to fathom her out because they are just tossers! You're outta there and hopefully your new place will bring you some much needed peace.

CornishTiger · 01/11/2025 17:12

You are giving up a secure social housing tenancy to move into private rental because of these issues?

I can tell you that may well be a bad move. You have no security of tenure, you don’t have the protection of reasonable rent nor do you have the services of a HA who deal with serious ASB.

Honestly it’s been a year. Kids grow up and shout less, put some boundaries in place, focus on what you can control and don’t let the other neighbours bother you.

I lived with some serious harrassment from our neighbour until a conviction and I stayed put until a suitable social housing property was secured. I wasn’t going into private rent.

Ps most of these issues do sound like lifestyle rather than asb. New estates also take a while to bed in.