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Can I do this and claim benefits or not?

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Yapppp · 31/10/2025 20:14

I am a massive worrier. I love my job and don’t want to not work but I overthink everything and like to have a plan in an emergency.

I have a decent amount of savings, enough to pay off half my mortgage. I’m keeping it investments for now as well as overpaying my mortgage monthly. If I were to lose my job, could I pay off the chunk of my mortgage with my savings and then claim benefits while I looked for another job? It almost seems pointless saving if I don’t get the same access to benefits as the next person should my job go wrong and I need time to find another. But I also don’t want to pay it off now when I’m working. Does anyone know as it seems confusing online when I google it!

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MaurineWayBack · 01/11/2025 15:14

@Yapppp I agree with some PP, you need to think carefully there.

I get you want to protect that money and put it towards your mortgage instead.
BUT please remember UC is very low. About £400 a month for a single person. That’s it. Even wo a mortgage p/rent to pay, I personally would struggle like hell to live on just that.
Id look at income protection instead tbh.

Also why do you have such a big amount of money saved but you haven’t used it to pay your mortgage yet?
Firvthat to be worthy, you’d need a pretty mortgage deal AND very good return on investment. I’d double check if it’s worth doing it that way anyway.
And ofc, keep 3~6 months saved just in case too.

CeeJay81 · 01/11/2025 10:41

You could yes. However if you haven't any children, then the only benefit you'll have is UC at about £90 a week, plus 25% council tax reduction for a single person. Benefits are very little if you have no children or housing element.

Cinnamon77 · 01/11/2025 10:34

Tamfs · 31/10/2025 20:21

Are we being invaded by benefits bashing bots tonight?

No, of course you can't do this. This would be playing the system.

It's ridiculous but you are actually allowed to do this.

Sounds like you agree the benefits system needs reforming!

sashh · 01/11/2025 10:30

Moveoverdarlin · 31/10/2025 20:19

You won’t have access to the same benefits as other people because you simply don’t NEED them. You can’t claim benefits whilst sat in a home you own outright.

Actually you can.

My carer inherited some money from his father, he used it to buy his council flat.

Everything was above board although I don't know the ins and outs.

Lovingbooks · 01/11/2025 09:10

JaceLancs · 31/10/2025 23:23

There is a very strong possibility I will be made redundant in the next 6 months and the redundancy payment would clear my mortgage
Leaving me with savings of less than £5k
I’m hoping to get another job fairly soon after this happens but would not need to earn as much if I was mortgage free
If I’m jobless for a few months was hoping to get JSA in the interim
Is this viable? I’m 61 and have worked since I was 16

if you are made redundant and you have savings under 16k you could claim UC instead of Job seekers allowance. You have to attend appointments at the job centre but certainly is viable.

Whatafustercluck · 01/11/2025 08:55

Op, some mortgage lenders have a clause that you can only overpay your mortgage by a certain amount every year. We're with Halifax and can only overpay 10% per year. At our time of life, this equates to around £6k, but appreciate it may be more for you, depending on how much of your mortgage remains.

If you're that concerned about losing your job, I'd suggest you look into income protection insurance. Job seekers is not a huge amount anyway, but granted you may be entitled to UC as well if you didn't have the savings. But if you protected your income with insurance you could keep your savings pot if the worst happened.

Jackiepumpkinhead · 01/11/2025 08:36

RubySquid · 31/10/2025 21:47

But that's what she would be doing. Only paying of the mortgage on one lump sum.

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They said they could pay off half their mortgage. If they used their savings to live off whilst they looked for a new job then they wouldn’t need to claim benefits.

It appears that this is allowed but seems a bit off to me. Having access to a lot of money but wanting to claim benefits.

Stormwhatnow · 01/11/2025 08:02

If you're a massive worrier then get income protection insurance.
You may be entitled to benefits but if you're a single person with a mortgage or mortgage free and no kids you'll get very little, certainly not enough to live on.
I think the base rate is something like £400 p/m with no kids/housing costs.

PrincessofWells · 01/11/2025 07:55

fost · 01/11/2025 00:57

Of course UC doesn't favour homeowners over renters. In this one specific case a homeowner with mortgage who happens to have a lot of savings will be able to put it towards their mortgage whereas a renter won't be able to do anything with their savings over the limit and will have to use the money to live off.

This is one very unusual example that happens very rarely. The far far more common thing is UC paying for a renter's housing expenses (though depending on where you live the amount paid may be far lower than the actual cost), but paying nothing whatsoever towards a homeowners housing expenses. Obviously it would be unfair for benefits to be paid to cover mortgage capital, but they used to cover mortgage interest until 15 years or so ago. So it's far far more common for UC to favour renters over homeowners.

This is incorrect. See my earlier post.

PrincessofWells · 01/11/2025 07:53

reformidontthinkso · 01/11/2025 00:11

What happens if your UC claim ended because of savings but you move house and use some capital for this then go below the 16K? Is that deprivation of capital?

It depends on a couple of things. What was the reason for moving house? Was the property owned or rented? What was the money actually spent on? What was the timeline?

liveforsummer · 01/11/2025 07:45

Would it help? Surely you pay a lump sum then it comes off the total amount owed and you’d still have to pay a regular monthly payment til it’s actually paid off? You probably wouldn’t be able to afford to do that on benefits as well as covering living costs

ItsAWonderfulLifeforMe · 01/11/2025 06:59

Yapppp · 31/10/2025 21:28

Thanks I didn’t think about getting insurance! Would this be insurance even if I lost my job under any circumstances? I didn’t know stuff like that existed

There are a few exclusions such as disciplinary or voluntary redundancy but it gives you £2.5k a month for up to a year if you are made redundant. Easy to set up, there are some comparison tools online to find a policy, only a few providers have a look at Palladian/ Howdens. There is an initial 90 day non-claim period and you also can’t claim for the first 30/60 days are redundancy.

HeyThereDelila · 01/11/2025 05:51

You need therapy, OP. These aren’t rational worries.

estellacandance · 01/11/2025 01:28

HollaHolla · 31/10/2025 21:44

If you pay off a lump sum after you've started a claim, you may get into trouble. This happened to me a few years ago, through complete ignorance. I used part of my redundancy payment to put a lump sum into my mortgage, and because you need to provide bank statements, I was brought in and questioned. I had to repay Council Tax benefit I'd received, and wasn't able to claim more than basic JSA. I was mortified, because I thought it was a sensible thing to do, and came from a position of ignorance - which is no excuse, I know. So, just be aware of that.

You need to appeal that. It’s not the correct interpretation of the law.

fost · 01/11/2025 00:57

NeatRoseOtter · 31/10/2025 22:20

Having checked this @Lougle is correct and I was wrong. Under the new Universal Credit system the OP would be able to reduce her savings to under £6000/£16000 by paying down her mortgage and claim Universal Credit.

So Universal Credit quietly favours people with mortgages and homeowners over renters.

If you rent, are trying to save say for a mortgage or whatever and you have over £16000 even in a LISA you can't get UC, but if you have a mortgage you can just pay it down and qualify.

In the UK system, unlike others there is no absolute capital limit for owning a home and claiming benefits.

I wonder if this also one reason why many more over 50s are leaving the job market permanently.

Get made redundant, pay off remainder mortgage with lump sum and claim benefits. They wouldn't have been able to do that before. If you claim PIP even get a nice new Motability car...

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Of course UC doesn't favour homeowners over renters. In this one specific case a homeowner with mortgage who happens to have a lot of savings will be able to put it towards their mortgage whereas a renter won't be able to do anything with their savings over the limit and will have to use the money to live off.

This is one very unusual example that happens very rarely. The far far more common thing is UC paying for a renter's housing expenses (though depending on where you live the amount paid may be far lower than the actual cost), but paying nothing whatsoever towards a homeowners housing expenses. Obviously it would be unfair for benefits to be paid to cover mortgage capital, but they used to cover mortgage interest until 15 years or so ago. So it's far far more common for UC to favour renters over homeowners.

ktopfwcv · 01/11/2025 00:47

Rexinasaurus · 31/10/2025 21:22

When exactly Can a person claim benefits?

A long time ago I thought we had to have paid enough taxes etc to benefit from benefits. Or at least have lived here a long time. But no. People eg. use the NHS without having paid in, claim benefits when they’ve lived here a very short time. Then a person who has lived here since birth, paid taxes, loses a job cannot eg. claim jsa because eg. He was self employed.

So frankly if I were you I’d give it a go. The gvt seem to hand out cash to millions of people for a never ending period of time.

In fact this gvt pay people not to work (and give excellent pay rises too!!), and impose huge taxes on those who do work. It’s like punishing your kids for doing well in their A Levels. And rewarding the kids who don’t.

Anyway yeah give it a go why not. 💰 🌳 🪄

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Which people who are capable of working are paid by the government not to do so?

Oxo01 · 01/11/2025 00:38

I would pay of half now, keep working and paying extra each month, them if and when you have no job then recess situation.

Negroany · 01/11/2025 00:30

Doggielovecharlotte · 31/10/2025 21:14

Look it up! Last time I was in contact with benefits system definitely the rule - job seekers for first 6 months automatic - after which its income based

Edited

That is correct. Contributions based JSA is 6m. Not means tested. I had it for seven weeks during Covid and had over £100k in savings and no mortgage.

It's not much though, c£80pw I think.

Friendlygingercat · 01/11/2025 00:28

Capital can be used to pay down debts without it being classed as deprivation of assets. This usually applies to loans, credit cards, car finance etc . However if you were to pay off your mortgage just as you were made redundant it might trigger an investigation. It would depend upon the circumstances. You are allowed to claim UP if you own your own home. Capital can also be used to pay for essential home repairs but not for improvements. For example if your boiler/heating is old and needs to be replaced or the roof needs repair. You are also allowed to replace household essentials such as white goods or basic furniture such as beds. But buying a snazzy new kitchen might be questioned. As others have pointed out you would need paperwork/quotes to show that the expenditure was genuine and not not excessive.

XenoBitch · 01/11/2025 00:22

reformidontthinkso · 01/11/2025 00:11

What happens if your UC claim ended because of savings but you move house and use some capital for this then go below the 16K? Is that deprivation of capital?

I know someone that did exactly that. They inherited a house, so sold theirs (they wanted to move into the inherited house but it needed a lot of work). As soon as the money from their own house sale hit their bank account, their benefits stopped.
Renovating the new house was not classed as DoC (it had belonged to an elderly man and was very neglected. She had to rent somewhere whilst the work was being done).
Her benefits started again once her money went below £16k.

BringBackCatsEyes · 01/11/2025 00:21

NeatRoseOtter · 31/10/2025 23:35

UC isn’t going to cover running a home. If you've got the sort of home that needs "running" perhaps not, however otherwise it's manageable.

By running I mean paying all the bills and upkeep.

NConthe · 01/11/2025 00:17

reformidontthinkso · 01/11/2025 00:11

What happens if your UC claim ended because of savings but you move house and use some capital for this then go below the 16K? Is that deprivation of capital?

No

reformidontthinkso · 01/11/2025 00:11

PrincessofWells · 31/10/2025 22:01

The rules are you may pay off debt that becomes due. The mortgage debt will not crystallize until the end of the mortgage term. So what this means is if you are at the end of your 25/20/15 year term and still have mortgage outstanding for whatever reason, this is not deprivation of capital.
If you are not at the end of the term, then paying off a chunk of the capital owing will be likely to result in a finding of deprivation of capital. It very much depends on the reason for doing so. This applies to those below state pensionable age. The rules are looser for them and slightly different.

What happens if your UC claim ended because of savings but you move house and use some capital for this then go below the 16K? Is that deprivation of capital?

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 01/11/2025 00:04

Timeforhector · 31/10/2025 21:26

I thought you could if you have no income and no savings even if you own your house outright?

You can.
Poster is wrong.

MossAndLeaves · 01/11/2025 00:04

If you have between 6-16k you would qualify for a reduced amount still I think?

Work out what you actually need in savings and pay off a chunk depending on how much savings you have. Pointless having tens of thousands sat there whilst you're paying interest on a mortgage as the primary issue.