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What’s my employers’ duty of care? Should I expect more?

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Sillyquestion123 · 31/10/2025 19:47

I work in a client facing role and yesterday one of clients verbally abused me. He even used swear words and it’s all recorded. I’m still shaken by the ordeal.

My manager reassured me it was not my fault, and she’d listen to the recording , but that was about it.

Im still in charge of that account until I hear otherwise.

ive never been in this situation before so I really know if should be expecting more or not.

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Glindaa · 11/11/2025 22:03

Sillyquestion123 · 04/11/2025 07:00

Because justice comes at a cost to my employer, and they’re not willing to lose that £££.

it’s not ideal but I also understand the business decision.

You don’t need their agreement to report him to his own HR department though ( sorry for slow reply)

Glittertwins · 05/11/2025 19:10

Is there anyone else, another account director that can take this on? I appreciate you’re in quite an uncomfortable position

Sillyquestion123 · 05/11/2025 18:32

Glittertwins · 05/11/2025 17:39

Still doesn’t give them the right to abuse their supplier though, the account director should be in contact with them over it.

I’m the account director (if you’re thinking of who owns the account).

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Glittertwins · 05/11/2025 17:39

Still doesn’t give them the right to abuse their supplier though, the account director should be in contact with them over it.

Sillyquestion123 · 05/11/2025 13:00

Glittertwins · 05/11/2025 12:58

A £100k account is pretty small change (dinInread that right from earlier). Surely you can’t be thought of that badly in your organisation and your company does have a duty of care to protect against abuse wherever it comes from. Paying an invoice does not allow someone to treat a supplier this way.

It’s fairly small change but not in our world. For better or for worse they’re one of the “higher value” ones.

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Glittertwins · 05/11/2025 12:58

A £100k account is pretty small change (dinInread that right from earlier). Surely you can’t be thought of that badly in your organisation and your company does have a duty of care to protect against abuse wherever it comes from. Paying an invoice does not allow someone to treat a supplier this way.

Sillyquestion123 · 04/11/2025 07:00

Glindaa · 03/11/2025 15:27

Why such a low expectation for yourself ? Why not seek justice?

Because justice comes at a cost to my employer, and they’re not willing to lose that £££.

it’s not ideal but I also understand the business decision.

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ScaryM0nster · 03/11/2025 16:30

Glindaa · 03/11/2025 15:24

Just find it strange that response is to tell PP to get MH support rather than get justice. This isn’t an OP problem , it’s the abuser problem & he needs to be held accountable

Actually, I’ve made a very sensible suggestion on how their employer could address the situation.

Ive also then identified that the OP is feeling the emotional impact of the event. The other person getting told their behaviour isn’t acceptable doesn’t alter what the OP experienced. And given the OP is struggling, then suggesting somewhere that could get support with that seemed sensible.

Glindaa · 03/11/2025 15:27

Sillyquestion123 · 03/11/2025 07:08

The only thing I can think of is that my managers send him an email/request in writing is that due to the indocident im never expected to be on a 1:1 call with him, and that someone from my team will always attend with me.

Why such a low expectation for yourself ? Why not seek justice?

Glindaa · 03/11/2025 15:24

ScaryM0nster · 03/11/2025 14:56

They’re not mutually exclusive, or substitutable.

Just find it strange that response is to tell PP to get MH support rather than get justice. This isn’t an OP problem , it’s the abuser problem & he needs to be held accountable

ScaryM0nster · 03/11/2025 14:56

Glindaa · 03/11/2025 12:43

I think OP needs justice, not support

They’re not mutually exclusive, or substitutable.

coldiris · 03/11/2025 12:46

I had a similar situation at work few years ago. Our leadership made a complaint to the client's leadership and told them they didn't think it was acceptable to either shout or be rude to our people because everyone is an adult and if there are any issues, everyone can discuss them in a calm and rational manner and work on addressing them. They were pretty adamant that being disrespectful wasn't an option even if we were the service provider who was paid for the service.

Glindaa · 03/11/2025 12:43

ScaryM0nster · 03/11/2025 09:18

Do you have an employee assistance program?

If you do, it might be worth getting in touch with them for some support.

This has clearly had a significant impact on you, and some help processing it might be useful to you.

I think OP needs justice, not support

Sillyquestion123 · 03/11/2025 09:58

ScaryM0nster · 03/11/2025 09:18

Do you have an employee assistance program?

If you do, it might be worth getting in touch with them for some support.

This has clearly had a significant impact on you, and some help processing it might be useful to you.

No we don’t, I might have access from a previous company

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ScaryM0nster · 03/11/2025 09:18

Do you have an employee assistance program?

If you do, it might be worth getting in touch with them for some support.

This has clearly had a significant impact on you, and some help processing it might be useful to you.

OnlyFangs · 03/11/2025 08:16

When this happened to me (but admittedly it wasn't a client it was lawyer on the other side) the head of my department made a complaint to the head of his department.
I suspect it wasn't the first complaint and within a week he was no longer working there

It's disappointing people suggesting this is just something you have to deal with. It absolutely shouldn't be.

Sillyquestion123 · 03/11/2025 08:13

Seelybe · 03/11/2025 07:40

@Sillyquestion123 obviously this is unacceptable behaviour. You've stated the solution early on, which is to point out calmly at the time that this isn't acceptable so you need to end the call now and resume when the person in question is able to do so without swearing at you.
Assuming you have some seniority and responsibility by now, you have been very sheltered / fortunate if you've not encountered anything like this before.
Treat it as a learning experience that won't happen again because you will be better equipped to take control and shut it down should it reoccur.
It's not bullying or harassment as a one off. You've reported it and honestly to keep pursuing it further is basically dog at a bone.

i am senior, but it’s just fairly uncommon.

sure I’ve read very uncomfortable things (like graphic death reports and a suicidal letter that still lives rent free in my head) but as much as many clients have been beyond frustrated (because they’re a very big chunk of the time!) They’ve always been able to separate the company from the person in front of them and it’s always been in a confrontational but professional manner- to that I’m more than used to!

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Seelybe · 03/11/2025 07:40

@Sillyquestion123 obviously this is unacceptable behaviour. You've stated the solution early on, which is to point out calmly at the time that this isn't acceptable so you need to end the call now and resume when the person in question is able to do so without swearing at you.
Assuming you have some seniority and responsibility by now, you have been very sheltered / fortunate if you've not encountered anything like this before.
Treat it as a learning experience that won't happen again because you will be better equipped to take control and shut it down should it reoccur.
It's not bullying or harassment as a one off. You've reported it and honestly to keep pursuing it further is basically dog at a bone.

Ilovehighlandcows · 03/11/2025 07:19

Sillyquestion123 · 31/10/2025 20:08

Well I mean he used the “c word”, fuck, shit and berated me and told me I was beyond useless.

I can't believe posters saying to put up with it!

Even years ago working in a supermarket when this happened, the person would get thrown out the shop and banned.

This client should be un-cliented!

Whatatodo79 · 03/11/2025 07:14

Glindaa · 02/11/2025 19:11

Agreed. The level of passivity, low expectations for oneself and understatement of the mans actions by PPs on this thread is ridiculous

Unfortunately sucking up this kind of awful is exactly what is expected in the public sector and the everyday experience of people in low wage jobsf

Sillyquestion123 · 03/11/2025 07:08

Savoury · 03/11/2025 06:41

I would think carefully about what you want to happen here. There is little chance of your company flagging it to the client’s company, and even less chance of them doing anything about it even if they did.

You could ask to stop being the contact person for the account but that affects you and not him, and also leaves another colleague to deal with him. It’s rubbish but ultimately if this man’s own company isn’t going to tackle this, yours has no chance.

I would just send an email for the record to your manager outlining in brief what happened and how you intend to deal with it in future (call meeting to a close, remind him such language isn’t appropriate etc.), which also gives him/her a chance to suggest something else.

The only thing I can think of is that my managers send him an email/request in writing is that due to the indocident im never expected to be on a 1:1 call with him, and that someone from my team will always attend with me.

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Savoury · 03/11/2025 06:41

I would think carefully about what you want to happen here. There is little chance of your company flagging it to the client’s company, and even less chance of them doing anything about it even if they did.

You could ask to stop being the contact person for the account but that affects you and not him, and also leaves another colleague to deal with him. It’s rubbish but ultimately if this man’s own company isn’t going to tackle this, yours has no chance.

I would just send an email for the record to your manager outlining in brief what happened and how you intend to deal with it in future (call meeting to a close, remind him such language isn’t appropriate etc.), which also gives him/her a chance to suggest something else.

Glindaa · 03/11/2025 06:26

Pretty sure if he spoke to a doctors receptionist or railway ticket office staff that way the police would be called.. They have zero tolerance policy for abuse

Jamesblonde2 · 02/11/2025 20:05

Eh, are you living and working in the Sciliy Isles and not used to negative client responses? What do you expect your manager to do?

Happens in my area of work all the time. If it’s particularly aggressive and abusive the client would be told we are not working for them.

But you sound like you don’t live in the real world.

Glindaa · 02/11/2025 19:56

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