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Hoppinggreen · 01/11/2025 11:47

VioletandDill · 31/10/2025 15:05

Excellent work Glamour - I'll get a copy from the newsagents. Wouldn't be aware of this otherwise so thanks OP! The rest of the women of the year are also worth reading about - including Hannah Hampton, a first class goalie who helped us secure a second Euros victory.

Interestingly if TW were freely allowed to participtate in Womens sport Hannah might not have got a look in

AngryBird6122 · 01/11/2025 11:44

BlakeCarrington · 01/11/2025 11:37

That’s true, but Glamour is a pile of old crap that I wouldn’t dream of buying anyway so my boycott won’t help, frustrating. Mind you, they have dropped such a dreadful clanger with this that I expect they’ll go out of business anyway. Sad times.

Apparently for some women, men being on the cover makes them WANT to go and buy it, even if they haven't for years. Bizzare.

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BlakeCarrington · 01/11/2025 11:38

ByShyRaven · 31/10/2025 16:40

YABU. Great response from Glamour. Hatred of trans people is no different to the past prevalence and social acceptance of homophobia. Shame on anyone who agrees with JK Rowling.

ODFOD

BlakeCarrington · 01/11/2025 11:37

Vaxtable · 31/10/2025 15:09

The thing to do is for everyone to not buy the magazine.

That’s true, but Glamour is a pile of old crap that I wouldn’t dream of buying anyway so my boycott won’t help, frustrating. Mind you, they have dropped such a dreadful clanger with this that I expect they’ll go out of business anyway. Sad times.

spannasaurus · 01/11/2025 11:36

canklesmctacotits · 01/11/2025 11:25

You don’t help yourself by being deliberately rude or simple, or aggressively bold (especially when you’re being a bold simpleton). It’s obviously none of the nonsense you’ve typed. And these people exist and have done for centuries, so it’s clearly not batshit either 🙄. It’s real, and they wouldn’t give two shits that you personally don’t believe it - you, actually, embody the type of ignorance that makes their life a living curse. Why be so dismissive of something you don’t like? Wonder who that reminds me of…

I suspect it’s probably some sort of chromosomal combination, or genomal “defect” that combines element of a male human with elements of a female human in the same body. Is that beyond your imagination? Or can there only ever be two possible choices, both of them absolute at all times, and natural selection must be 100% perfect at all times, that glitches and variations can never occur even though they do every single day up and down the entire length and breadth of the human genome? You do a huge disservice to the hundreds of thousands of people who have gone before you who lived with their “defective” bodies and souls without making the sort of fuss that has this current generation all riled up. Ffs, I know standards on MN have dropped but this is something else.

At one point they carried out chromosomal testing on trans people to see if there was a higher incidence of differences of sexual development (or intersex conditions to use the old description) compared to non trans identified people. There wasn't.

canklesmctacotits · 01/11/2025 11:25

Namelessnelly · 01/11/2025 05:51

So there must be two groups of people who are “stuck in the wrong body”. The people claiming it and those who got the bodies these people were supposed to have? Do the second group know they are in the wrong bodies? How does this happen? Is it like a production line where something like a soul is put in a body and someone let the intern have a go and they put the souls in the wrong bodies? I have so many questions about this batshit theory.

You don’t help yourself by being deliberately rude or simple, or aggressively bold (especially when you’re being a bold simpleton). It’s obviously none of the nonsense you’ve typed. And these people exist and have done for centuries, so it’s clearly not batshit either 🙄. It’s real, and they wouldn’t give two shits that you personally don’t believe it - you, actually, embody the type of ignorance that makes their life a living curse. Why be so dismissive of something you don’t like? Wonder who that reminds me of…

I suspect it’s probably some sort of chromosomal combination, or genomal “defect” that combines element of a male human with elements of a female human in the same body. Is that beyond your imagination? Or can there only ever be two possible choices, both of them absolute at all times, and natural selection must be 100% perfect at all times, that glitches and variations can never occur even though they do every single day up and down the entire length and breadth of the human genome? You do a huge disservice to the hundreds of thousands of people who have gone before you who lived with their “defective” bodies and souls without making the sort of fuss that has this current generation all riled up. Ffs, I know standards on MN have dropped but this is something else.

ifyoulikechocolate · 01/11/2025 10:59

Inertia · 01/11/2025 10:21

So I totally misunderstood what you meant by ‘Barbican had a transwoman with a tiny part’.

“tiny part” 🤣

Ddakji · 01/11/2025 10:50

VioletandDill · 01/11/2025 10:44

Well I'd really love to seen as I admire the 9 women on the cover but someone else seemed think it's not in print any more - so I'm a little confused about where JK even found the photo to be honest. If you search Glamour Women of the Year UK, the article doesn't mention the Dolls until the very end. (Last time I tried to post the correct link MN blocked my reply so I'll try again after this)

I'll be at a proper newsagent today that stocks every magazine you can think of so I'll have a look.

On X.

AngryBird6122 · 01/11/2025 10:49

VioletandDill · 01/11/2025 10:44

Well I'd really love to seen as I admire the 9 women on the cover but someone else seemed think it's not in print any more - so I'm a little confused about where JK even found the photo to be honest. If you search Glamour Women of the Year UK, the article doesn't mention the Dolls until the very end. (Last time I tried to post the correct link MN blocked my reply so I'll try again after this)

I'll be at a proper newsagent today that stocks every magazine you can think of so I'll have a look.

You can go to the official Glamour magazine instagram you will see it there for a start.

Have they done things that are so amazing they should be on the cover?? I must be missing something.

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VioletandDill · 01/11/2025 10:47

MN please unhide the link so people can see what I'm talking about! ☹️ Guys if you do want to see search 'Glamour Woman of the Year UK'. There are 8/9 entrants of which the dolls are last. It's worth a read.

VioletandDill · 01/11/2025 10:46

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VioletandDill · 01/11/2025 10:44

AngryBird6122 · 01/11/2025 10:21

Same question for you @VioletandDill you don’t normally buy it but you will if there’s men on the cover????? Huh?

Well I'd really love to seen as I admire the 9 women on the cover but someone else seemed think it's not in print any more - so I'm a little confused about where JK even found the photo to be honest. If you search Glamour Women of the Year UK, the article doesn't mention the Dolls until the very end. (Last time I tried to post the correct link MN blocked my reply so I'll try again after this)

I'll be at a proper newsagent today that stocks every magazine you can think of so I'll have a look.

Inertia · 01/11/2025 10:27

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 31/10/2025 22:01

Would you be happy if one of them excelled in say, swimming, and a male who was mediocre in the men’s, ‘transitioned’ aka just said ‘I’m a woman now’ and competed against your daughter, with all the physiological advantages being a male brings in sport?

And they don’t just demand to compete against the girls, they insist on being naked in the girls’ changing room and whinge about transphobia if the girls refuse to get naked in front of them.

AngryBird6122 · 01/11/2025 10:21

AngryBird6122 · 01/11/2025 10:20

@CunningLinguist2 sorry what? You haven’t bought glamour women’s magazine in years but now there are men on the front cover you will?

Same question for you @VioletandDill you don’t normally buy it but you will if there’s men on the cover????? Huh?

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Inertia · 01/11/2025 10:21

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 31/10/2025 16:12

Bud Light. Planet Fitness. Target to name a few.

Barbie had a transwoman with a tiny part. It emits a roll of the eyes at best. Had a transwoman/male been cast as Barbie, it would’ve been a different story entirely.

So I totally misunderstood what you meant by ‘Barbican had a transwoman with a tiny part’.

AngryBird6122 · 01/11/2025 10:20

CunningLinguist2 · 31/10/2025 22:56

Haven’t bought or read it in years. I will now though.

@CunningLinguist2 sorry what? You haven’t bought glamour women’s magazine in years but now there are men on the front cover you will?

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Ihatetomatoes · 01/11/2025 10:20

canklesmctacotits · 31/10/2025 15:25

I think this whole thing is clearly lost on me because I don't read this as anything other than tongue in cheek. A man who has transitioned away from being a man and closer to being a woman isn't a woman. He's not a man, but neither is he a woman. He's a transitioned man. Different category. So this is just satire, to me. Provocative satire to generate clicks and outrage. Not particularly mature or interesting, in fact pretty boring.

Still men though, they are a subset of men, trans identified men. Never female, no matter what they change or how they dress.

ThatCyanCat · 01/11/2025 10:20

I'm so sick of shitty "artists" and "creatives" grabbing on to JKR to boost themselves using her profile. It's parasitic and vampiric.

It's also incredibly transphobic of the magazine to be supporting the dolls and not the bricks (both terms came from the trans community). They should educate themselves, the nasty bigots.

Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar · 01/11/2025 10:13

Arraminta · 01/11/2025 09:54

Biological women 'present' in a million different ways. Yesterday, I was dressed down in DH's rugby shirt with no make up and bad hair. Today, I'm wearing velvet leggings with a cosy jumper and light make up. I rarely look identical three days running.

So why do TW always, always, always 'present' as uber glamorous, over sexualized, push-up bras, drag make-up, heels and dangly earrings?

It. Is. A. Festish.

Because they are men.

And as men, they have no idea what being a woman actually is, and they never can.

Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar · 01/11/2025 10:09

Yep, right again as she so often is

But all I can feel about it is sadness

chickenwings2 · 01/11/2025 10:02

WildCats24 · 31/10/2025 16:12

It’s like Ebony magazine putting Rachel Dolezal on the cover and announcing that she’s “Black Woman of the Year”.

This!

MinnieCauldwell · 01/11/2025 09:54

VioletandDill · 31/10/2025 15:05

Excellent work Glamour - I'll get a copy from the newsagents. Wouldn't be aware of this otherwise so thanks OP! The rest of the women of the year are also worth reading about - including Hannah Hampton, a first class goalie who helped us secure a second Euros victory.

Shame she wasn't on the cover then. She had actually attained something.

Arraminta · 01/11/2025 09:54

Biological women 'present' in a million different ways. Yesterday, I was dressed down in DH's rugby shirt with no make up and bad hair. Today, I'm wearing velvet leggings with a cosy jumper and light make up. I rarely look identical three days running.

So why do TW always, always, always 'present' as uber glamorous, over sexualized, push-up bras, drag make-up, heels and dangly earrings?

It. Is. A. Festish.

EasternStandard · 01/11/2025 09:46

lifeturnsonadime · 01/11/2025 09:40

I worded that badly, what I meant to say was men, whatever they wear, are not a minority group.

IMO they are appropriating oppression. The group of men photographed for this magazine shoot are the opposite of oppressed. They are demanding additional rights based on their identities without a care of the harm that does to female people.

Yes you are right.

BunfightBetty · 01/11/2025 09:46

lifeturnsonadime · 01/11/2025 09:40

I worded that badly, what I meant to say was men, whatever they wear, are not a minority group.

IMO they are appropriating oppression. The group of men photographed for this magazine shoot are the opposite of oppressed. They are demanding additional rights based on their identities without a care of the harm that does to female people.

Exactly. It is MEN who are the oppressor group. Women are the oppressed group.

How you dress or identify, or what you call yourself, does not magically change this.

The fact that this particular group of men on the cover have seen fit to appropriate a female space evidences this.

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