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Valeriekat · 07/11/2025 07:23

FlorenceAndTheVagine · 31/10/2025 15:07

Gosh aren’t you quite the cool girl.

I thought it was online only?

Ihatetomatoes · 05/11/2025 11:37

ThatCyanCat · 04/11/2025 20:54

It's an absolutely ancient gag. The dinosaurs went extinct because they died laughing at that one. Presumably he had to add the 2 to the username because he wasn't even the first one to use it here.

And of course he doesn't know what the trans community's preferred terms are because he isn't interested in transgenderism, he's interested in misogyny and he's noticed, correctly, that if he latches on to this ideology he can scold women and deny their rights while flattering himself that he's incredibly progressive and clever. Look at how clever he thought he was, shoehorning in UR MANSPLAINING like we were somehow being hoisted by our own petard.

And as ever, all he's doing is proving that he knows who the women are. From his prehistoric oral sex reference to his low energy argument by assertion to his pathetic belief that he has somehow inverted our arguments against us by accusing us of MANSPLAINING, that's what it all shows. He knows who the women are. Everyone does.

100%

WearyAuldWumman · 04/11/2025 20:55

Well said, @ThatCyanCat .

ThatCyanCat · 04/11/2025 20:54

WearyAuldWumman · 04/11/2025 19:34

The username is an expression that I used to see used as a 'joke' by male students and - on one infamous occasion - a male lecturer at uni. It does make things rather obvious.

I find it interesting that in the body of his posts he's using a form of expression that is often deemed 'transphobic'.

It's an absolutely ancient gag. The dinosaurs went extinct because they died laughing at that one. Presumably he had to add the 2 to the username because he wasn't even the first one to use it here.

And of course he doesn't know what the trans community's preferred terms are because he isn't interested in transgenderism, he's interested in misogyny and he's noticed, correctly, that if he latches on to this ideology he can scold women and deny their rights while flattering himself that he's incredibly progressive and clever. Look at how clever he thought he was, shoehorning in UR MANSPLAINING like we were somehow being hoisted by our own petard.

And as ever, all he's doing is proving that he knows who the women are. From his prehistoric oral sex reference to his low energy argument by assertion to his pathetic belief that he has somehow inverted our arguments against us by accusing us of MANSPLAINING, that's what it all shows. He knows who the women are. Everyone does.

WearyAuldWumman · 04/11/2025 19:34

ThatCyanCat · 04/11/2025 08:57

I didn't clock the username initially (these people all blend into one after a while) but after he started with the rather self-congratulatory "you are like a MANSPLAINER, guess women are just as bad as MEN" stuff, I thought, "That's a bit of a weird thing to say, even apart from the fact that it's totally without reason", looked at the username and, well, yeah.

The username is an expression that I used to see used as a 'joke' by male students and - on one infamous occasion - a male lecturer at uni. It does make things rather obvious.

I find it interesting that in the body of his posts he's using a form of expression that is often deemed 'transphobic'.

watchadewin · 04/11/2025 19:00

I was on a course run by a trans identifying man a couple of years ago and he recounted sitting on in an empty train carriage in his dress and wig when a group of noisy young men boarded. The TIM recalled feeling anxious that he'd be laughed at (although in the event he wasn't).
He was quite put out when I suggested that was the difference between a man and a woman - he was worried he'd be laughed at; a woman would be worried she'd be raped.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/11/2025 09:22

ThatCyanCat · 04/11/2025 08:50

He won't do better. He's called himself CunningLinguist2 (I guess he wasn't the first to come up with that genius idea for a username) to enter a discussion about women's rights and when he's pulled up for thinking "no it's not" is an actual rebuttal, he starts accusing women of being the same as mansplainers, and you can just see how incredibly clever he thinks he's being. He told women they were acting like unpleasant men! Absolutely no reason or substance but he said it so it must be true! Oh how clever is the cunning linguist! Oh how marvellously he turns the women's arguments against thenselves! Oh how we are surely going to realise his genius!

It's worse than childishness, it's bloody adolescent. And men aren't women.

I think you are probably right on that.

Ihatetomatoes · 04/11/2025 09:20

CunningLinguist2 · 03/11/2025 22:58

Again, misspelling transwomen. It’s soooo tedious,

Actually its trans identified men, a sub category of men. HTH.

ThatCyanCat · 04/11/2025 08:57

WildCats24 · 04/11/2025 08:53

He's called himself CunningLinguist2 (I guess he wasn't the first to come up with that genius idea for a username)
😂
At least he’s not CunningLinguist69, eh?

I didn't clock the username initially (these people all blend into one after a while) but after he started with the rather self-congratulatory "you are like a MANSPLAINER, guess women are just as bad as MEN" stuff, I thought, "That's a bit of a weird thing to say, even apart from the fact that it's totally without reason", looked at the username and, well, yeah.

WildCats24 · 04/11/2025 08:53

ThatCyanCat · 04/11/2025 08:50

He won't do better. He's called himself CunningLinguist2 (I guess he wasn't the first to come up with that genius idea for a username) to enter a discussion about women's rights and when he's pulled up for thinking "no it's not" is an actual rebuttal, he starts accusing women of being the same as mansplainers, and you can just see how incredibly clever he thinks he's being. He told women they were acting like unpleasant men! Absolutely no reason or substance but he said it so it must be true! Oh how clever is the cunning linguist! Oh how marvellously he turns the women's arguments against thenselves! Oh how we are surely going to realise his genius!

It's worse than childishness, it's bloody adolescent. And men aren't women.

He's called himself CunningLinguist2 (I guess he wasn't the first to come up with that genius idea for a username)
😂
At least he’s not CunningLinguist69, eh?

ThatCyanCat · 04/11/2025 08:50

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/11/2025 07:42

Also, and what amuses me as I am childish sometimes, is that poster would be harangued by TRAs themselves for not putting a space in between “trans” and “women”. Do better.

He won't do better. He's called himself CunningLinguist2 (I guess he wasn't the first to come up with that genius idea for a username) to enter a discussion about women's rights and when he's pulled up for thinking "no it's not" is an actual rebuttal, he starts accusing women of being the same as mansplainers, and you can just see how incredibly clever he thinks he's being. He told women they were acting like unpleasant men! Absolutely no reason or substance but he said it so it must be true! Oh how clever is the cunning linguist! Oh how marvellously he turns the women's arguments against thenselves! Oh how we are surely going to realise his genius!

It's worse than childishness, it's bloody adolescent. And men aren't women.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/11/2025 07:42

Also, and what amuses me as I am childish sometimes, is that poster would be harangued by TRAs themselves for not putting a space in between “trans” and “women”. Do better.

BunfightBetty · 04/11/2025 07:36

CunningLinguist2 · 03/11/2025 22:58

Again, misspelling transwomen. It’s soooo tedious,

Not really a lot of point in complaining about posters calling you childish if you’re going to post comments like this, is there.

ThatCyanCat · 04/11/2025 07:16

CunningLinguist2 · 03/11/2025 23:01

Calling me childish and telling me what to think is not changing my stance or mind. If anything you come across as … mansplaining? And dictatorial? And belittling… which I guess isn’t reserved for men then :D Ah well.
Carry on.

Telling you what to think? Dictatorial? If you want to pretend men are women, that's up to you. But if you want us to pretend men are women, that's up to us. Do you understand what telling people what to think and being dictatorial means?

And of course just denying reality that you know as well as we do is totally childish. ("Nope!" Like that says anything!) That's why my kids do it. But like I said, they're children who got their fun ruined and don't have an answer. What is your excuse? What is the point? Of course you know they're men. That's why you make a point of standing with them, because you know the difference. If you didn't know they were men, you wouldn't know who to stand with.

And we don't care if you stand with men. We just don't want them standing in women's spaces. Stick to that and it's all golden, mate.

herbaltincture · 03/11/2025 23:27

It's so weird, because this idea of being 'a woman' they almost all seem to have is centred on being a sexually alluring/provocative woman, when most of being a woman is doing shitty housework jobs, picking up socks and jocks and wet towels, scrubbing toilets, raising lazy indifferent men's children from prior 'relationships', having painful periods, prolapses, and childbirth-induced incontinence, organising Christmas, birthdays, and everything else, caring for elderly parents, being shoved off the pavement by men once they pass the age of being sexually alluring, having lesser pay for the same jobs, etc etc etc.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/11/2025 23:09

CunningLinguist2 · 03/11/2025 23:01

Calling me childish and telling me what to think is not changing my stance or mind. If anything you come across as … mansplaining? And dictatorial? And belittling… which I guess isn’t reserved for men then :D Ah well.
Carry on.

No one expects you to change your stance or mind. The comment was spot on.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/11/2025 23:07

CunningLinguist2 · 03/11/2025 22:58

Again, misspelling transwomen. It’s soooo tedious,

I’m misspelling men who identify as women as “men”? I don’t really consider it a particularly meaningful distinction in the grand scheme of things, hope that helps.

CunningLinguist2 · 03/11/2025 23:01

ThatCyanCat · 02/11/2025 18:13

Why do you people bother with this shite? You know you're talking nonsense, we know you're talking nonsense, you know we know and we know you know we know. You're like my kids when I ask them if they're trying to kill themselves by doing something stupid and they of course shout, "YES!" Obviously they're not, we all know it, they just don't want to have to say it. But they're primary school children who are sulky that Mum ruined their fun. What the hell is your excuse?

At least the people telling us we should give up our rights and protections and indulge male delusions because it would make us more honorable people aren't just telling us black is white while scowling and sticking out their lower lips. Honestly, what is the frigging point?

Calling me childish and telling me what to think is not changing my stance or mind. If anything you come across as … mansplaining? And dictatorial? And belittling… which I guess isn’t reserved for men then :D Ah well.
Carry on.

CunningLinguist2 · 03/11/2025 22:58

Ereshkigalangcleg · 02/11/2025 16:21

Stand with the men as much as you want, it’s hardly a new thing for women to throw other women under the bus to pander to them, is it?

Again, misspelling transwomen. It’s soooo tedious,

Ihatetomatoes · 03/11/2025 10:23

CunningLinguist2 · 02/11/2025 15:25

Nope

You can deny reality but the majority of people use facts. There will always be deluded people around. Some people believe they are gods, others cats, others demons, or in a relationship with an inanimate object eg cars, and some believe they can change sex just by saying they can; all in the same category of deluded people. It's a bit sad, but up to them as long as they understand that everyone won't buy into their delutional thoughts.

Letthemeatgateau · 02/11/2025 20:15

CunningLinguist2 · 02/11/2025 15:28

Don’t be daft. You know full well what I mean. Which is that I stand with transwomen. We won’t be in agreement & that’s fine. You do you :)

Where exactly do you stand with the TIMs? If it's in female single sex spaces, fortunately the SC has made it clear that they'll be standing in the gents...

Namelessnelly · 02/11/2025 19:36

CunningLinguist2 · 02/11/2025 15:28

Don’t be daft. You know full well what I mean. Which is that I stand with transwomen. We won’t be in agreement & that’s fine. You do you :)

Oh awesome. So you’ll be fully open to using any third spaces. Jolly good. That will be a huge help to those men. I think your support of males with a trans identity says such a lot.

ThatCyanCat · 02/11/2025 18:31

CunningLinguist2 · 02/11/2025 15:28

Don’t be daft. You know full well what I mean. Which is that I stand with transwomen. We won’t be in agreement & that’s fine. You do you :)

You can stand with men all you like, just please stand with them somewhere that isn't the ladies'. That's really all we're asking.

ThatCyanCat · 02/11/2025 18:13

CunningLinguist2 · 02/11/2025 15:25

Nope

Why do you people bother with this shite? You know you're talking nonsense, we know you're talking nonsense, you know we know and we know you know we know. You're like my kids when I ask them if they're trying to kill themselves by doing something stupid and they of course shout, "YES!" Obviously they're not, we all know it, they just don't want to have to say it. But they're primary school children who are sulky that Mum ruined their fun. What the hell is your excuse?

At least the people telling us we should give up our rights and protections and indulge male delusions because it would make us more honorable people aren't just telling us black is white while scowling and sticking out their lower lips. Honestly, what is the frigging point?

Arraminta · 02/11/2025 17:23

JellySaurus · 02/11/2025 13:55

Thanks to the intelligent, articulate witches of the Feminism - Sex and Gender board, I learned a new phrase: ad hominem. Arraminta’s response is a beautiful example.

You're welcome.