A genuine question for royalists.

I did give you the reasons why. He's witnessed politics and history directly and up close. He's legally politically neutral and he has to be. He has confidential state papers which we don't have.

You and I, we do not provide institutional continuity. The monarchy is a non political constant that acts as a stabiliser. I wish King Charles very well and long may he reign!

I do not. I understand the Andrew-Epstein thing is a horrible stain on the Royal Family. Charles is doing the right thing by ostracizing Andrew.

I find no evidence a statement from 2019 exists. In 2015 they made a statement saying they categorically denied the crimes.

I did some research the FOI request shows that no public funds were used for this. The queen did contribute a bit out of her own money and the Andrew relied on his wealth and loans. Andrews a despicable human being and what Charles is doing is correct.

The Queen served us for many decades working tirelessly into her 90s. Many people miss her. All the republican whining will have no relevance as we continue to have the monarchy.

Long Live the King

He gets to advise because he is the Monarch, the King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. It's a constitutional convention.

I've not asked you to describe the system. My question was "why?" Why is this accidental appointee the best person to advise?

The monarch can offer perspective and/or guide but the PM isn't obliged to take the advice.

Why should the monarch offer his perspective rather than you or me offering our perspective? When do I get my go?

It's institutional memory and experience he's seen decades of governments come and go.

I've seen decades of government come and go (and I haven't been insulated from the effects of government through immense financial privilege)

The monarchy anchors the political system as well

Again, you're just describing the system, not justifying it

As they are outside party politics.

I am outside party politics. When will I get my go?

And I promise I won’t use tax payers money to silence victims of sexual violence, or any violence.

Me too, I volunteer as tribute! Send me in, I’ll dedicate the rest of my life to living in massive houses, surrounded by staff and kowtowing fans and cut a few ribbons to some leisure centres.

@LoopedLooped

You have a fair bit of cognitive dissonance going on there.

Take the single issue of Andrew- Elizabeth protected Andrew despite being told repeatedly about all his abuses not just the Epstein ones. She used our money to pay off his accuser . She issued a statement smearing Virginia Guiffre in 2019 based on no evidence whatsoever!

She enriched herself and her family off the backs of the people . She excluded them from laws the rest of us must follow

She was not the person the propaganda sells

We can do both love. We can get rid of this parasitic family AND also worry about other things simultaneously.

They been protecting a sex offender and rapist for YEARS.

So would I if someone featherbedded every single waking moment of my existence and gave me twenty-seven castles

I said not all. Prince Andrew is a twat. But our late Queen was a dedicated public servant and spent her whole time as monarch dedicated to serving the country.

It is complacent to think generational power, prestige and wealth gathering does not have wider implications for society as a whole.

it's a really odd view imo

You do you, but why anyone would fangirl over her is beyond my ken. She is so mediocre.

They are all so blah, I would be more of a fan if they were a bit more interesting, had an actual impact.

I honestly think "republicans" and people who bleat on and on about the monarchy need to refocus on some of the country's actual problems and stop thinking getting rid of the monarchy will solve everything. It won't. Not by a long shot. And its existence doesn't even make the top 50 of Urgent Things That Need Fixing In The UK.

Not sure I agree, I think the concept of Royals/aristocrats does feed into our class system, inequality, disparity between wealth & income etc which are things that do hinder growth.

I wouldn’t call myself a Royalist, but the RF don’t have absolute power - the King is a head of state of a constitutional monarchy, reigns not rules. I’m happy with this hereditary monarchy because I like traditions that go back a thousand years (as I get older I’m increasingly small c conservative - I stood in our town marketplace place where forebears have been standing for centuries to hear the proclaimation of the ascension of Charles III). The RF are also staggeringly good for the economy.

Just ignore them FFS.

Then come back and deal with them another time when the real issues have been dealt with

I kind of agree with this, actually. They aren't that important and I don't think that getting rid of them would especially solve anything. However, I would like to see them drastically slimmed down, and also if Charles dies within the next few years, there certainly shouldn't be such a big deal made of his funeral or of William's coronation.

I honestly think "republicans" and people who bleat on and on about the monarchy need to refocus on some of the country's actual problems and stop thinking getting rid of the monarchy will solve everything. It won't. Not by a long shot. And it's existence doesn't even make the top 50 of Urgent Things That Need Fixing In The UK.
They're just a rich deluded family that dominate the news because it makes money for other rich people. That's it in a nutshell really. Their biggest danger is the focus they take off more important things.

Ha ha ha. Good one.

You do you, but why anyone would fangirl over her is beyond my ken. She is so mediocre. And she will never be 'my Queen'. I don't claim Royalty, we didn't vote for them and they don't belong to us. People who kowtow to them are just so cringe.

Most (not all) are hard working people who have dedicated their lives to public service. Especially our late Queen Elizabeth 👑.

It is so weak. They’re a bunch of not very bright, talentless grifters. The country can keep all the pomp and ceremony without them.

The pro royalty arguments are so weak. We could have cool presidents like Ireland or Uruguay, it doesn't have to be Trump. We came very close to a Nazi sympathiser king on the throne in WW2, that would not have been good for soft power and stability.

Revenue from the crown estates > Tax Payer Money for Royal Expenses

Simple maths

Oh gosh. I know we vote for our local MP and the PM is the one who's party has a majority in the house of commons. When I vote at the GE I do think about who the PM will be 75% and my local MP 25%.

He gets to advise because he is the Monarch, the King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. It's a constitutional convention. The monarch can offer perspective and/or guide but the PM isn't obliged to take the advice. It's institutional memory and experience he's seen decades of governments come and go. The monarchy anchors the political system as well. As they are outside party politics.

Agree wholeheartedly with this. In addition, the depressing excuse that many use for keeping the current system - well there isn’t anything better!! Seriously that so rubbish and such a cop-out.