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Overheard my stepson bad-mouthing me to his friends

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cococream · 31/10/2025 09:27

Yesterday, my stepson and three of his friends were hanging out at our house. They were in the living room, and I was in the hallway on my way to grab something when I overheard one of them say my name. I stopped in my tracks because it was obvious they were talking about me. My stepson specifically wasn’t saying nice things at all. I heard him call me a “Swedish wh*re,” say I’m “only good at being Dad’s toy,” and rant about how I’m with his dad only for the money, that I wrecked my husband’s first marriage, and things of that sort. His friends were laughing and continuing with jokes. Honestly, it shocked me because he’s always been super nice to me and on his best behaviour. He’s 16 and I’ve known him since he was nine. There are only 13 years between us, and I’ve always treated him like a little brother, so I believed we had a good, cool relationship. I didn’t say anything to him or his friends at the time. I waited until my husband was home so we could have a talk together, the three of us. He refused to apologise, saying he won’t apologise for “saying the truth.” My husband and his ex-wife (who he also called) decided to ground him by not allowing his friends over until he apologises. He lives with us full-time but often visits his mum, and she visits frequently too. I’m good friends with my husband’s ex-wife, she’s even invited to all family events. All of my stepson’s “facts” are factually untrue, which is what truly puzzles me. I don’t think the punishment is unreasonable.

OP posts:
WhattheDeuceBrian · 31/10/2025 11:22

CypressGrove · 31/10/2025 10:40

Possibly the apple hasn't fallen far from the tree. Its a bit gross to move in someone only 13 years older in a step mum role. Particularly if she's the hot young stepmum - he might be getting some ribbing from his friends which he has responded to very poorly.

A bit gross?! No shit.

Poor kid.
He's a boy whose childhood for the last several years has included the installation of a much younger woman into his father's house.
It's grim and he's allowed to feel the way he does- much of his behaviour may well be bravado to mask hurt and embarrassment. How should he respond- with measured maturity? He's a child.
It's not OP's fault either- she was early 20s when this lad's letchy father came on to her.
OP, you've been taken advantage of and your stepson has a shitty father.
The person responsible for this situation is Dad (and only Dad), though other posters are keen to tie this lad to the stake.
Of course he needs to see that his dad, not step mother, is the arsehole here but what kid wants the hurt of thinking that? He'd rather make you the bad guy than his own father. And he lacks the life experience to see that you've been taken advantage of- as do you.
And remember, relative to him, you are more the adult- albeit that you're too young to be a part of this situation.
It is not the time to call him out for the use of the word "whore" etc, however disagreeable the language and sentiments; this language is symptomatic of a hurt boy who has been let down by the adults in his life.
He's actually behaved very well if he's generally courteous to you- I hope somebody steps up and looks out for him soon, and for you, too, OP; do you really think this is a great way to live your life?

Dweetfidilove · 31/10/2025 11:22

PixieandMe · 31/10/2025 11:17

You misunderstand. There are such obvious holes in this story.

What holes can the OP fill that would make you less embarrassed that you've raised a child that speaks about women in this way?

WearyCat · 31/10/2025 11:21

Why does he think you broke his parents up? That’s what I’d be asking, and if it’s not true, asking his parents to lay out the timeline of their breakup and your relationship with his dad.

I would also be horrified at the misogynistic language, even if he believes you wrecked his parents’ relationship there’s no excuse for that.

MumChp · 31/10/2025 11:21

cococream · 31/10/2025 11:16

Because his dad can provide a higher quality of life than his mum.

Can he? Right now he has raised a son I wouldn't be proud of.
Mum might do a better job. Can't do much worse.

Dramatic · 31/10/2025 11:20

PixieandMe · 31/10/2025 11:19

Are you 12?

OP could have had a quiet word. That would have been there mature approach.

So you think she shouldn't have shared with her husband that his son said what he did? That's a very weird take.

Hankunamatata · 31/10/2025 11:20

So you were 22 when you met your dss. How old was his dad?

Perhaps he harbours lots of embarrassment? Perhaps he was teased? Perhaps he does blame you for his parents marriage not working?

Consequences have been in place.

He needs a chat with his dad or perhaps a therapist with his dad as obviously there is some deep resentment.

I do wonder how much his mates tease him about his very young step mum

oldtiredcyclist · 31/10/2025 11:20

JHound · 31/10/2025 11:05

So you think step-parents should not exist? Why is he right to hate her for simply being his dad’s wife?

I agree, I think it was an awful thing for him to say and speaks volumes for his lack of respect for girls/women. I am a bloke in his mid sixties, who has been married for 35 years. I started work at 16 and wouldn't have dreamed saying something like that. Young men have to be pulled up for misogyny, his dad should be doing that.

Hankunamatata · 31/10/2025 11:20

So you were 22 when you met your dss. How old was his dad?

Perhaps he harbours lots of embarrassment? Perhaps he was teased? Perhaps he does blame you for his parents marriage not working?

Consequences have been in place.

He needs a chat with his dad or perhaps a therapist with his dad as obviously there is some deep resentment.

I do wonder how much his mates tease him about his very young step mum

PixieandMe · 31/10/2025 11:19

lazyarse123 · 31/10/2025 11:13

Grassed him up. Are you 12?
He needs a proper bollocking and then finding out where his mysoginistic ideas have come from.

Are you 12?

OP could have had a quiet word. That would have been there mature approach.

MumChp · 31/10/2025 11:19

TheZanyZebra · 31/10/2025 11:10

it's HIS home too, he has a right to stay, how awful are you! Kids are not an inconvenience (well, they are 😂) but you DO NOT throw them out because they have an opinion or because they don't get on with your new relationship.

His dad is with someone who treats him "like a little brother", bet he doesn't see it that way, the OP is sleeping with the dad, how bizarre to expect a "mate/ siblings" relationship with the kids? That's nuts.

His dad can be very firm on the teen being polite and respectful, and not using the word toy or whore, but he's just as entitled as thinking the OP is just there for the money as his dad is entitled to have a new partner.

Punishment because of the rude and nasty words, can't do anything about his feelings I am afraid.

Fine. I would walk out if I was expected to share a home with a adult 18 yo wo
ith this approach to me/women. Tbh wouldn't be my loss.

PixieandMe · 31/10/2025 11:17

JHound · 31/10/2025 11:14

Why does him living with his dad “make no sense”.

You misunderstand. There are such obvious holes in this story.

cococream · 31/10/2025 11:16

PixieandMe · 31/10/2025 11:10

'He refused to apologise, saying he won’t apologise for “saying the truth.”'

How is it possible, OP that you could possibly have a good relationship with him (as you state you do)?

Not only has he said these things that you overheard but he has also stuck by what he said and refuses to say sorry.

There is either a LOT missing from this or you do not have a good relationship with your stepson at all and he hates you.

Few holes in this tale, I feel. What's the truth? Why would a seemingly nice young man say these things completely out of the blue about someone he claims to like. Either it's not true or he has had a complete temporary personality change.

Why does he live with you and not with his mother?

Because his dad can provide a higher quality of life than his mum.

OP posts:
TheatricalLife · 31/10/2025 11:16

Dweetfidilove · 31/10/2025 11:15

This thread is a lesson in how the pigs we read about on MN and other platforms are formed.

16 year old boy calls his stepmother all sorts of disgusting names and it's her fault because:

She's young.
She's Swedish.
She's probably beautiful.
She dared to become a step-parent.
She eavesdropped on a conversation about her.
His parents' marriage broke down for whatever reason.
He's only a child.
He shouldn't be punished.
He should be understood.
Young boys say unkind things and sometimes that strays into misogyny, twisted logic, hateful ideas; but that's understandable.
Blah, blah, blah.

Disgusting ☹️.

Totally agree with this.

Dramatic · 31/10/2025 11:15

TheZanyZebra · 31/10/2025 11:10

it's HIS home too, he has a right to stay, how awful are you! Kids are not an inconvenience (well, they are 😂) but you DO NOT throw them out because they have an opinion or because they don't get on with your new relationship.

His dad is with someone who treats him "like a little brother", bet he doesn't see it that way, the OP is sleeping with the dad, how bizarre to expect a "mate/ siblings" relationship with the kids? That's nuts.

His dad can be very firm on the teen being polite and respectful, and not using the word toy or whore, but he's just as entitled as thinking the OP is just there for the money as his dad is entitled to have a new partner.

Punishment because of the rude and nasty words, can't do anything about his feelings I am afraid.

There's having an opinion such as "I don't like my step mum, I feel like she ruined my parents marriage" (which op has already stated is untrue, but he can feel that way if he wishes) and then there's being a full on misogynist and throwing around words like whore and toy to refer to a woman.

Dweetfidilove · 31/10/2025 11:15

This thread is a lesson in how the pigs we read about on MN and other platforms are formed.

16 year old boy calls his stepmother all sorts of disgusting names and it's her fault because:

She's young.
She's Swedish.
She's probably beautiful.
She dared to become a step-parent.
She eavesdropped on a conversation about her.
His parents' marriage broke down for whatever reason.
He's only a child.
He shouldn't be punished.
He should be understood.
Young boys say unkind things and sometimes that strays into misogyny, twisted logic, hateful ideas; but that's understandable.
Blah, blah, blah.

Disgusting ☹️.

JHound · 31/10/2025 11:14

PixieandMe · 31/10/2025 11:13

Up to the OP whether they wish to answer, not you.

Might add some credibility to a tale that makes no sense.

Why does him living with his dad “make no sense”.

lazyarse123 · 31/10/2025 11:13

PixieandMe · 31/10/2025 10:02

If he is 'like a younger brother' to you, why didn't you take him aside alone and tell him that you heard what he said? You could have asked him if he really felt that way about you, told him it upset you and left it at that.

Now he really has something to dislike you for because you grassed him up to his dad and his mum, got him grounded and blew the whole thing up.

Grassed him up. Are you 12?
He needs a proper bollocking and then finding out where his mysoginistic ideas have come from.

PixieandMe · 31/10/2025 11:13

JHound · 31/10/2025 11:11

Why should he live with his mother?

If he lived with his mother would you ask why he lives with her and not his father?

Up to the OP whether they wish to answer, not you.

Might add some credibility to a tale that makes no sense.

JHound · 31/10/2025 11:12

TheZanyZebra · 31/10/2025 11:10

it's HIS home too, he has a right to stay, how awful are you! Kids are not an inconvenience (well, they are 😂) but you DO NOT throw them out because they have an opinion or because they don't get on with your new relationship.

His dad is with someone who treats him "like a little brother", bet he doesn't see it that way, the OP is sleeping with the dad, how bizarre to expect a "mate/ siblings" relationship with the kids? That's nuts.

His dad can be very firm on the teen being polite and respectful, and not using the word toy or whore, but he's just as entitled as thinking the OP is just there for the money as his dad is entitled to have a new partner.

Punishment because of the rude and nasty words, can't do anything about his feelings I am afraid.

It’s not simply rude and nasty words it’s misogyny. To somehow suggest a similarity to the father being “entitled to remarry” and the son being “entitled” to believe misogynistic tropes about his step-mother is bonkers.

You seem to be bitter at the fact the father has moved on and remarried (a clearly younger woman.)

JHound · 31/10/2025 11:11

PixieandMe · 31/10/2025 11:10

'He refused to apologise, saying he won’t apologise for “saying the truth.”'

How is it possible, OP that you could possibly have a good relationship with him (as you state you do)?

Not only has he said these things that you overheard but he has also stuck by what he said and refuses to say sorry.

There is either a LOT missing from this or you do not have a good relationship with your stepson at all and he hates you.

Few holes in this tale, I feel. What's the truth? Why would a seemingly nice young man say these things completely out of the blue about someone he claims to like. Either it's not true or he has had a complete temporary personality change.

Why does he live with you and not with his mother?

Why should he live with his mother?

If he lived with his mother would you ask why he lives with her and not his father?

TheZanyZebra · 31/10/2025 11:10

MumChp · 31/10/2025 09:28

I had asked his friends to leave the house and his father to do a serious talk.
I would expect DSS to move out at 18 yo. No way I would share a home a minute more than needed with him. I would expect DH to support me 100% in this.

Edited

it's HIS home too, he has a right to stay, how awful are you! Kids are not an inconvenience (well, they are 😂) but you DO NOT throw them out because they have an opinion or because they don't get on with your new relationship.

His dad is with someone who treats him "like a little brother", bet he doesn't see it that way, the OP is sleeping with the dad, how bizarre to expect a "mate/ siblings" relationship with the kids? That's nuts.

His dad can be very firm on the teen being polite and respectful, and not using the word toy or whore, but he's just as entitled as thinking the OP is just there for the money as his dad is entitled to have a new partner.

Punishment because of the rude and nasty words, can't do anything about his feelings I am afraid.

JHound · 31/10/2025 11:10

Some of these responses show why misogyny is such an issue among young men.

PixieandMe · 31/10/2025 11:10

'He refused to apologise, saying he won’t apologise for “saying the truth.”'

How is it possible, OP that you could possibly have a good relationship with him (as you state you do)?

Not only has he said these things that you overheard but he has also stuck by what he said and refuses to say sorry.

There is either a LOT missing from this or you do not have a good relationship with your stepson at all and he hates you.

Few holes in this tale, I feel. What's the truth? Why would a seemingly nice young man say these things completely out of the blue about someone he claims to like. Either it's not true or he has had a complete temporary personality change.

Why does he live with you and not with his mother?

askmenow · 31/10/2025 11:09

There’s a measure of bravado in relationships between lads.
I had three brothers and overheard conversations between them and their mates when they didn’t know I was nearby. I was the oldest sister. Truely shocked me.

In groups they behave like pack animals, all one upmanship, each being more outrageous than the other. Seeking credibility, belonging, group think. Not wanting to stand out from the crowd.

Shameful behaviour in your own home but cut him some slack. He’s an emotionally unformed young person.
Perhaps his mum would be the best to have a word and put him right given you all get on well together.
Time is a great healer.

WFHforevermore · 31/10/2025 11:08

JamesWebbSpaceTelescope · 31/10/2025 09:37

I would be having a deep dive into his electronic devices - well getting your DH to do it. He will be watching some misogynistic shit.

Once that is found (and it will be) then he would be on an electronic ban apart from supervised access to do his homework.

I would be contacting all the parents of his friends and explaining that they were laughing along with the language and encouraging it.

I would also be contacting the school, just to keep them in the picture and so they know the comments are going round the year group. It is just helpful for them to know in case anything gets said.

And stop doing anything for him, no cooking, cleaning, washing, lifts. He doesn’t get to treat anyone in such a disrespectful way.

He needs to know now, when he is still learning, that he can not treat people this way. He has got it wrong big time, and he needs to have that crashing down on him. As he is 16, it would be appropriate to have a conversation about where he lives as he can not expect to stay living with someone he is so rude to.

Oh behave, contacting the school?! How ridiculous.

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