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Overheard my stepson bad-mouthing me to his friends

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cococream · 31/10/2025 09:27

Yesterday, my stepson and three of his friends were hanging out at our house. They were in the living room, and I was in the hallway on my way to grab something when I overheard one of them say my name. I stopped in my tracks because it was obvious they were talking about me. My stepson specifically wasn’t saying nice things at all. I heard him call me a “Swedish wh*re,” say I’m “only good at being Dad’s toy,” and rant about how I’m with his dad only for the money, that I wrecked my husband’s first marriage, and things of that sort. His friends were laughing and continuing with jokes. Honestly, it shocked me because he’s always been super nice to me and on his best behaviour. He’s 16 and I’ve known him since he was nine. There are only 13 years between us, and I’ve always treated him like a little brother, so I believed we had a good, cool relationship. I didn’t say anything to him or his friends at the time. I waited until my husband was home so we could have a talk together, the three of us. He refused to apologise, saying he won’t apologise for “saying the truth.” My husband and his ex-wife (who he also called) decided to ground him by not allowing his friends over until he apologises. He lives with us full-time but often visits his mum, and she visits frequently too. I’m good friends with my husband’s ex-wife, she’s even invited to all family events. All of my stepson’s “facts” are factually untrue, which is what truly puzzles me. I don’t think the punishment is unreasonable.

OP posts:
beAsensible1 · 31/10/2025 11:52

why would he want a little brother role to his fathers wife? is that not weird and slightly off putting.

siblings and sibling like relationships would talk to each other, not have a family meeting.

you are blurring the lines, you are his stepmother not his sister. You cannot be his sister or in a sister like capacity you are in relationship with his father. I think your age and possible attempts as sister/ age mate familiarity will be part of the issue.

RubySquid · 31/10/2025 11:52

EmeraldShamrock000 · 31/10/2025 11:50

I said probably, though that would make him a young father at 26 when DS was born.
I would have confronted him in front of his friends, I wouldn't be able to stop myself.

Young? He could've been 17 or 18 when child was born. So if 18 would make him 5years older thanOP

Glowingup · 31/10/2025 11:51

May I just remind people that the OP has never said that the boy will be kicked out, nor that she wants him to be kicked out. She said she agrees with the punishment of grounding him and not allowing friends over until he apologises. A punishment his parents decided on together by the way.

Yet it’s still her fault according to so many on here.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 31/10/2025 11:50

RubySquid · 31/10/2025 11:47

How do you work out the dad is 13 years older than her?

I said probably, though that would make him a young father at 26 when DS was born.
I would have confronted him in front of his friends, I wouldn't be able to stop myself.

TheZanyZebra · 31/10/2025 11:49

RubySquid · 31/10/2025 11:45

Would it be ok for the boy to slag off an older sister and call her a whore then?

Surely its basic respect for women

Edited

WHERE exactly in my post did you read that it's ok to slag off an older sister exactly?

I am helping you, nowhere!! Literally said the opposite.

My point was that bickering and arguments between siblings are normal, and to stay well out of it, but same is not acceptable with a step-parent, or a parent full stop.

Dramatic · 31/10/2025 11:48

TheZanyZebra · 31/10/2025 11:44

never said it was, there should be consequences and firm threats about using that kind of language, against anyone.

Not that it matters here because it's too far, but if you play the "big sister" you can't complain you are not given the respect due to a step-mum, you can't have it both ways.

The dad should absolutely go nuts about the language, but not a valid excuse to throw him out because he's an inconvenience however.

No I don't think he should be thrown out, unless his views continue and get worse in which case I'd send him to his mother's house if it was me.

All female relatives deserve basic respect, he shouldn't be saying that about a big sister either.

Dweetfidilove · 31/10/2025 11:47

PixieandMe · 31/10/2025 11:33

Read the OP!

Can't see anything in the OP that justifies her being called a whore or such. There's also nothing she could add that would justify her being called out of her name.

RubySquid · 31/10/2025 11:47

EmeraldShamrock000 · 31/10/2025 11:46

So you were 22 when you first met him, is that correct? He probably does think you are with his Dad for money, ask his Dad to put him straight.
The little brother thing is weird, his Dad is probably 13 years older than you, it's a strange way to view the relationship.

How do you work out the dad is 13 years older than her?

TheZanyZebra · 31/10/2025 11:46

Dweetfidilove · 31/10/2025 11:45

I don't believe I've encouraged the OP to throw him out. Have I?

talking about the many many posts on this thread who did say that.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 31/10/2025 11:46

So you were 22 when you first met him, is that correct? He probably does think you are with his Dad for money, ask his Dad to put him straight.
The little brother thing is weird, his Dad is probably 13 years older than you, it's a strange way to view the relationship.

Dramatic · 31/10/2025 11:46

PixieandMe · 31/10/2025 11:44

Correct. She could have taken him aside. Told him what she heard. Asked him if he really felt that way because they usually get along so well. She would have been really shocked, wouldn't she?

But, instead, she told her husband and the boys mum who sat him down and punished him.

However - son refuses to apologise and stands by what he has said - Why?

Why would a seemingly, usually nice young man who gets along fine with the OP suddenly not only say awful things about her but when questioned refuse* *to apologise and insist they had spoken the truth (how they see/feel it).

Either there is a lot missing here or this is a made up scenario designed to whip up the usual boy haters.

I'd assume it's because he's fell down the incel rabbit hole on the internet rather than assuming the op has made the whole thing up.

RubySquid · 31/10/2025 11:45

TheZanyZebra · 31/10/2025 11:44

never said it was, there should be consequences and firm threats about using that kind of language, against anyone.

Not that it matters here because it's too far, but if you play the "big sister" you can't complain you are not given the respect due to a step-mum, you can't have it both ways.

The dad should absolutely go nuts about the language, but not a valid excuse to throw him out because he's an inconvenience however.

Would it be ok for the boy to slag off an older sister and call her a whore then?

Surely its basic respect for women

Dweetfidilove · 31/10/2025 11:45

TheZanyZebra · 31/10/2025 11:41

I think a woman who decides to go into a relationship with an older man (fine) BUT insist on playing the "big sister" with the kids because she's so close in age with them is very wrong too. Imagine how cringey in front of the friends.

Neither side are being great here frankly.
It's also BOTH their home, even more the teen's home. Like it or not, but you can't suddenly get rid of a child. Don't have them, or don't go into a relationship with someone who has them if they're a problem. (for the people who casually say to chuck him out as soon as he's 18, it's his home!)

I don't believe I've encouraged the OP to throw him out. Have I?

WhattheDeuceBrian · 31/10/2025 11:44

arethereanyleftatall · 31/10/2025 11:37

What @Glowingup?!?

the poster is detailing that the person to blame at the root of this mess, is the misogynistic father!!

@GlowingUp is a sweet summer child who thinks we should hang a 16 year old boy out to dry for bad words aimed at the adults who have hurt him.

Be Kind brigade in action.

Hey, Glowing- my brother yelled "cunt" after the man who mugged him- I just wish you'd been around to lecture him on his misogynistic language.

PixieandMe · 31/10/2025 11:44

Dramatic · 31/10/2025 11:20

So you think she shouldn't have shared with her husband that his son said what he did? That's a very weird take.

Correct. She could have taken him aside. Told him what she heard. Asked him if he really felt that way because they usually get along so well. She would have been really shocked, wouldn't she?

But, instead, she told her husband and the boys mum who sat him down and punished him.

However - son refuses to apologise and stands by what he has said - Why?

Why would a seemingly, usually nice young man who gets along fine with the OP suddenly not only say awful things about her but when questioned refuse* *to apologise and insist they had spoken the truth (how they see/feel it).

Either there is a lot missing here or this is a made up scenario designed to whip up the usual boy haters.

Glowingup · 31/10/2025 11:44

arethereanyleftatall · 31/10/2025 11:37

What @Glowingup?!?

the poster is detailing that the person to blame at the root of this mess, is the misogynistic father!!

Im not 100% sure what he’s done to be honest. Is he automatically a misogynist because he has a younger partner? The dad isn’t the one calling women whores and playthings. Nobody has said how old the father is but it’s only in the past 10 years or so that we’ve started saying that people in their early 20s aren’t adults. Despite it being very common 50 years ago or so to be married with a child at 22. And there’s also been increased hysteria about age gaps between adults to the extent that some teenagers now genuinely think it’s disgusting and wrong for a 24 year old and a 21 year old to date. It’s mind boggling.

But from the OP’s posts there isn’t anything that says that the dad is a misogynist. Getting remarried after a divorce is not a crime. Having a stepparent is not the worst thing that can happen to a child. It is absolutely no excuse for the horrible things that this boy has said and refuses to apologise for.

TheZanyZebra · 31/10/2025 11:44

Dramatic · 31/10/2025 11:39

Even so that still does not give him any right to speak about her like this. It wouldn't be acceptable for him to say that about any female relative regardless of what form their relationship took.

never said it was, there should be consequences and firm threats about using that kind of language, against anyone.

Not that it matters here because it's too far, but if you play the "big sister" you can't complain you are not given the respect due to a step-mum, you can't have it both ways.

The dad should absolutely go nuts about the language, but not a valid excuse to throw him out because he's an inconvenience however.

Dramatic · 31/10/2025 11:43

TheZanyZebra · 31/10/2025 11:41

I think a woman who decides to go into a relationship with an older man (fine) BUT insist on playing the "big sister" with the kids because she's so close in age with them is very wrong too. Imagine how cringey in front of the friends.

Neither side are being great here frankly.
It's also BOTH their home, even more the teen's home. Like it or not, but you can't suddenly get rid of a child. Don't have them, or don't go into a relationship with someone who has them if they're a problem. (for the people who casually say to chuck him out as soon as he's 18, it's his home!)

I doubt she goes around saying "I'm just like a big sister!" to him, I think it was a clunky way of saying she doesn't really get involved with things like discipline and leaves that to the parents which is perfectly reasonable.

Dweetfidilove · 31/10/2025 11:42

Glowingup · 31/10/2025 11:29

Precisely. And she didn’t even eavesdrop - they were talking loud enough for her to hear in her own house. She didn’t instal a camera in his bedroom.

And yes it’s so obvious why there are so many awful men out there, why so many women suffer rape, sexual assault and domestic abuse.

SO many times I read on the step parenting forums that you should not try to be a parent, you should be a friendly older adult, like an aunt or older sister. Exactly what the OP has done but it’s not good enough apparently.

And so much excusing horrible depraved behaviour just because this boy’s parents got divorced and apparently he’s a victim. I can’t believe people think it’s okay for children to treat adults in their lives like shit just because they are in a relationship with their parents. NO. The OP is friendly with the ex wife, the ex has taken her side in this dispute and is invited to family events. Clearly it’s complete bollocks that the OP was the cause of the marriage breakdown.

This is an insecure little shit of a boy who feels big by engaging in misogyny and blaming everything on women. Unless a serious intervention takes place, in a few years he will be talking about his girlfriends like this, calling them whores and playthings.

That's exactly it. Someone else's child will eventually have to put up with his horribly depraved attitudes.

He's not even sorry. The three adults in his life have sit him down and he's still wrong and strong in his position. Hopefully they'll be able to reach him. Terrifying ☹️.

SleeplessInWherever · 31/10/2025 11:41

You’ve taken on someone else’s child full time, in what is also your home, and should not expect to be spoken to or about like that.

There is absolutely no way I’d put up with it, and I’d definitely be expecting an apology for the language he used.

Dramatic · 31/10/2025 11:41

arethereanyleftatall · 31/10/2025 11:37

What @Glowingup?!?

the poster is detailing that the person to blame at the root of this mess, is the misogynistic father!!

How have people come to the conclusion that the dad must be a misogynist?!

I met my ex when I was 21, he was 26 and had an 8 year old daughter. I hardly think that makes him a definite misogynist

TheZanyZebra · 31/10/2025 11:41

Dweetfidilove · 31/10/2025 11:36

It's obviously not a happy situation, as his language is so gross and extreme.

The adults all get along, so hopefully they'll figure out how to help him overcome his hate and misogyny before he's let loose on someone's daughter.
Imagine finding a boyfriend with such disgusting views , all because folks were making excuses and qualifying shit behaviour at 16 ☹️.

I think a woman who decides to go into a relationship with an older man (fine) BUT insist on playing the "big sister" with the kids because she's so close in age with them is very wrong too. Imagine how cringey in front of the friends.

Neither side are being great here frankly.
It's also BOTH their home, even more the teen's home. Like it or not, but you can't suddenly get rid of a child. Don't have them, or don't go into a relationship with someone who has them if they're a problem. (for the people who casually say to chuck him out as soon as he's 18, it's his home!)

arethereanyleftatall · 31/10/2025 11:39

lazyarse123 · 31/10/2025 11:36

Depends how old the dad is. He only needs to be 7 years older than op to have a 16 year old. Not a pervynold man by any means.

That’s true but I’ll eat my hat if the father is only 35.

RubySquid · 31/10/2025 11:39

lazyarse123 · 31/10/2025 11:36

Depends how old the dad is. He only needs to be 7 years older than op to have a 16 year old. Not a pervynold man by any means.

Or 5 if he had the child at 18

Dramatic · 31/10/2025 11:39

TheZanyZebra · 31/10/2025 11:35

it's not that at all, is it.

It's the OP who had to make the point she is only 13 years older in her OP, it's weird she thinks it's an important detail and that it would give them a "little brother/ big sister" relationship. She's the step-mum! She sleeps with the dad!

Completely normal to be in a relationship with a guy, even a bit older than you, but you don't play the big sister with the teenage kids? Nothing wrong with being the step-mum, stick with that, it makes the whole situation a lot more comfortable.

Even so that still does not give him any right to speak about her like this. It wouldn't be acceptable for him to say that about any female relative regardless of what form their relationship took.

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