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Overheard my stepson bad-mouthing me to his friends

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cococream · 31/10/2025 09:27

Yesterday, my stepson and three of his friends were hanging out at our house. They were in the living room, and I was in the hallway on my way to grab something when I overheard one of them say my name. I stopped in my tracks because it was obvious they were talking about me. My stepson specifically wasn’t saying nice things at all. I heard him call me a “Swedish wh*re,” say I’m “only good at being Dad’s toy,” and rant about how I’m with his dad only for the money, that I wrecked my husband’s first marriage, and things of that sort. His friends were laughing and continuing with jokes. Honestly, it shocked me because he’s always been super nice to me and on his best behaviour. He’s 16 and I’ve known him since he was nine. There are only 13 years between us, and I’ve always treated him like a little brother, so I believed we had a good, cool relationship. I didn’t say anything to him or his friends at the time. I waited until my husband was home so we could have a talk together, the three of us. He refused to apologise, saying he won’t apologise for “saying the truth.” My husband and his ex-wife (who he also called) decided to ground him by not allowing his friends over until he apologises. He lives with us full-time but often visits his mum, and she visits frequently too. I’m good friends with my husband’s ex-wife, she’s even invited to all family events. All of my stepson’s “facts” are factually untrue, which is what truly puzzles me. I don’t think the punishment is unreasonable.

OP posts:
Gloriia · 31/10/2025 13:47

'I think if OP had met her husband when she was 42 and was now 49 a number of comments would look very different'

Well yes quite you seem to be getting the point.

<Disclaimer insulting language is not ok but it was in private, not said to cause upset. It is time to talk to the ds not 'ground' him>

JHound · 31/10/2025 13:47

purple590 · 31/10/2025 13:44

So his dad paid his mum off to be able to get his son full time? Fucking hell. No wonder he thinks every woman just values money, his mother valued money more than him.

I can't begin to get my head around how fucked up this all is.

Edited

Why are you making random shit up?

JHound · 31/10/2025 13:46

arethereanyleftatall · 31/10/2025 13:37

It doesn’t ’justify’ it. It role models it.

How does it “role model” misogyny? This is such a batshit thing to think never mind write on the internet.

Are you arguing that age gap relationships are inherently misogynistic?

TheZanyZebra · 31/10/2025 13:45

BuckChuckets · 31/10/2025 13:06

I can't be bothered to have this argument, but it's all evidence-based, I'm not making things up. Feel free to research brain development!

I am sure you are consistent and refuse any care from any nurse or medical personnel until they are late 20s because their brain is not fully developed? 😂

purple590 · 31/10/2025 13:44

So his dad paid his mum off to be able to get his son full time? Fucking hell. No wonder he thinks every woman just values money, his mother valued money more than him.

I can't begin to get my head around how fucked up this all is.

JHound · 31/10/2025 13:42

Gloriia · 31/10/2025 13:01

It isn't her fault no. Insults are not ok but you really have to look at the whole picture here.

Of course the 16yr son is furious with his older dad having a 29 yr old dp while his poor dm lives alone as she has 'less nicer things'. Seriously I can't believe the op can't see what a sea of resentment their set up has caused the ds.

Your language reveals why this is triggering to you “poor DM living alone”.

Why do you see her as the “poor DM”? She has dated too.

JHound · 31/10/2025 13:40

BuckChuckets · 31/10/2025 13:00

There's definitely something wrong with a man in his late 40s starting a relationship with someone in their early 20s whose brain and emotional maturity haven't even fully developed, but that's not the issue here.

I'd be very concerned about your teen DSS coming out with this incel-type stuff. If he'd been slagging off his dad, calling him a groomer, dirty old man etc, it would still be inappropriate but at least closer to the truth. The fact he's using abusive language about the OP shows he probably has a lot of other worrying views about women.

Such nonsense.

Maybe they simply met and got on.

Differentforgirls · 31/10/2025 13:39

Chiseltip · 31/10/2025 13:24

I don't need help, and I'm not minimising anything. I just don't buy into needless drama.

But thanks for your concern.

It's concern for others tbh.

arethereanyleftatall · 31/10/2025 13:37

JHound · 31/10/2025 13:27

How does a man in his 40s, dating a woman in his 20s justify misogyny?

It doesn’t ’justify’ it. It role models it.

JHound · 31/10/2025 13:37

SleeplessInWherever · 31/10/2025 12:35

I think she just explained the facts around why he lives where he does, and why his parents made that decision. Which she didn’t have to do.

How is a woman who’s just been called a Swedish whore the bad guy here.

How is a woman who’s just been called a Swedish whore the bad guy here.

Because she’s the second, much younger wife and that fact alone is triggering a number of women posting here.

I think if OP had met her husband when she was 42 and was now 49 a number of comments would look very different.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 31/10/2025 13:36

Gloriia · 31/10/2025 12:49

'And the age is 54'

And you're 29? I'm not surprised his ds is full of anger and resentment Confused.

Maybe he should call his father a cradle snatcher or sugar Daddy.
His language was disgraceful, he has a lot of unresolved issues around his parents separation.
Has he had counselling?

Howmanycatsistoomany · 31/10/2025 13:33

SleeplessInWherever · 31/10/2025 13:02

He’s 16. If he chooses, he can go and live with his mum.

He hasn’t because he presumably doesn’t want to. But that doesn’t give him carte blanch to offend his step mother.

Edited

Agree. If I was OP, the delightful little shit would now be living with his mum.

Glowingup · 31/10/2025 13:33

If someone in their 20s has a brain that’s so undeveloped that having a relationship with them is unethical then nobody should be having a relationship with them at all. The age of consent should be 27 or whenever people think the brain is fully formed.
There are people in their early 20s working as doctors, barristers, soldiers, firemen and police officers.

JHound · 31/10/2025 13:32

ClareBlue · 31/10/2025 13:26

I didn't say she must have been the Nanny. But it's the most likely situation by far. It is most likely that she was involved with the family as per the reasons in my post. She knew the son at 9 which was years before she started a relationship with his Dad. How many 22 year olds know a 9 year old well that isn't a family member or a child of a close friend or who they had caring responsibilities for. There is a small chance that a 22 year old from a different country is a close friend of someone in another country who has a 9 year old or who meets a random man with a 9 year old and becomes friends with him and his wife to a stage to get invited to family events a d then the son calls her a gold digger. You think that is the most plausible explanation.

Where are you getting all this from?

She met her husband when his son was 9 while he was going through divorce. Where did you get they knew each other for years before?

latetothefisting · 31/10/2025 13:31

ComfortFoodCafe · 31/10/2025 09:50

Yes but shes clearly not acting like a step parent neither, treating him like a little brother. Youve confused dont need to rock up & lay the law as a second mum but do need to have boundaries whoch clearly hasnt been excuted here.

What boundaries is she supposed to have had, exactly?

What would 'Treating him like a step parent" have consisted of, in your view?

Given he's refused to apologise when told to by both of his "real" parents and slagged off his dad's wife in his dad's house it doesn't seem as if it would have made any difference had she taken on more of a parent role.

Glowingup · 31/10/2025 13:30

ClareBlue · 31/10/2025 13:26

I didn't say she must have been the Nanny. But it's the most likely situation by far. It is most likely that she was involved with the family as per the reasons in my post. She knew the son at 9 which was years before she started a relationship with his Dad. How many 22 year olds know a 9 year old well that isn't a family member or a child of a close friend or who they had caring responsibilities for. There is a small chance that a 22 year old from a different country is a close friend of someone in another country who has a 9 year old or who meets a random man with a 9 year old and becomes friends with him and his wife to a stage to get invited to family events a d then the son calls her a gold digger. You think that is the most plausible explanation.

wtf? Where are you getting the idea that she knew the son before she started a relationship with the dad? The OP has literally never said that. And why would her having been the nanny make it more likely that she’d now be friends with the mum? It’s not actually that uncommon to get on well with your partner’s ex.

Chiseltip · 31/10/2025 13:30

BuckChuckets · 31/10/2025 13:06

I can't be bothered to have this argument, but it's all evidence-based, I'm not making things up. Feel free to research brain development!

So people in their 20s shouldn't be allowed to make their own decisions now?

Shit, there's loads of doctors in my local hospital who are in their 20s.

Most of our armed forces personnel are either teenagers or early 20s!

Shit!

Is someone gonna tell them?

JHound · 31/10/2025 13:28

Shitmonger · 31/10/2025 13:27

No kidding. There’s little point in having the father talk to him when the father is likely where he’s gotten his misogynistic views from, given the circumstances.

Why have you decided the father is misogynistic? Based on what evidence?

JHound · 31/10/2025 13:27

arethereanyleftatall · 31/10/2025 13:18

As a society, it is worth looking at the roots of why children behave in the way they do. This surely gives an insight in to how to help people behave better. What the child said is utterly abhorrent. But he didn’t say it from nowhere. His father when 49 started dating a 22 year old woman. That is bound to have shaped how he is today.

How does a man in his 40s, dating a woman in his 20s justify misogyny?

Shitmonger · 31/10/2025 13:27

arethereanyleftatall · 31/10/2025 13:20

But it ‘should’ revolve around it, because the age gap has shaped how his son will think.

No kidding. There’s little point in having the father talk to him when the father is likely where he’s gotten his misogynistic views from, given the circumstances.

ClareBlue · 31/10/2025 13:26

Glowingup · 31/10/2025 12:07

Why must she have been the family nanny? I took it to mean that she was 22 when she got to know her DSS, ie when she started the relationship with the dad. Why have you invented from the facts that she must have known the child in the capacity as a nanny/au pair before the relationship with the father started?

And why must she have been the nanny to now be friends with the mum? Theres absolutely no reason why she couldn’t be friendly with her husbands ex if she wasn’t a previous employee. In fact I’d think it was less likely that they’d be friends if the OP was previously employed to look after the child.

Edited

I didn't say she must have been the Nanny. But it's the most likely situation by far. It is most likely that she was involved with the family as per the reasons in my post. She knew the son at 9 which was years before she started a relationship with his Dad. How many 22 year olds know a 9 year old well that isn't a family member or a child of a close friend or who they had caring responsibilities for. There is a small chance that a 22 year old from a different country is a close friend of someone in another country who has a 9 year old or who meets a random man with a 9 year old and becomes friends with him and his wife to a stage to get invited to family events a d then the son calls her a gold digger. You think that is the most plausible explanation.

Chiseltip · 31/10/2025 13:24

Differentforgirls · 31/10/2025 13:05

There is something wrong with you. I have seen you on a few threads now minimising some truly horrendous stuff. I think you need help.

I don't need help, and I'm not minimising anything. I just don't buy into needless drama.

But thanks for your concern.

Glowingup · 31/10/2025 13:20

arethereanyleftatall · 31/10/2025 13:18

As a society, it is worth looking at the roots of why children behave in the way they do. This surely gives an insight in to how to help people behave better. What the child said is utterly abhorrent. But he didn’t say it from nowhere. His father when 49 started dating a 22 year old woman. That is bound to have shaped how he is today.

Or we try to become less judgemental about people in age gap relationships and stop using misogynistic tropes about gold diggers and whores. They’ve been together 8 years and it doesn’t sound like the OP is going anywhere.

arethereanyleftatall · 31/10/2025 13:20

cococream · 31/10/2025 12:42

?
I didn't have a dig at anyone, I was asked why the son lives with his dad full-time and explained how that arrangement came to be + clarified when I first met my husband. And the age is 54, the reason why I didn't answer the age question is because I didn't want the whole thread to revolve around age gaps (how it tends to happen online when one is mentioned).

But it ‘should’ revolve around it, because the age gap has shaped how his son will think.

arethereanyleftatall · 31/10/2025 13:18

Dweetfidilove · 31/10/2025 13:00

Aaahhh, yes. Tell his parents to cancel the punishment OP.
He's a perfectly justifiable misogynist, as his dad married a young, gold-digging Swedish whore.
Jesus wept!

As a society, it is worth looking at the roots of why children behave in the way they do. This surely gives an insight in to how to help people behave better. What the child said is utterly abhorrent. But he didn’t say it from nowhere. His father when 49 started dating a 22 year old woman. That is bound to have shaped how he is today.