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Overheard my stepson bad-mouthing me to his friends

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cococream · 31/10/2025 09:27

Yesterday, my stepson and three of his friends were hanging out at our house. They were in the living room, and I was in the hallway on my way to grab something when I overheard one of them say my name. I stopped in my tracks because it was obvious they were talking about me. My stepson specifically wasn’t saying nice things at all. I heard him call me a “Swedish wh*re,” say I’m “only good at being Dad’s toy,” and rant about how I’m with his dad only for the money, that I wrecked my husband’s first marriage, and things of that sort. His friends were laughing and continuing with jokes. Honestly, it shocked me because he’s always been super nice to me and on his best behaviour. He’s 16 and I’ve known him since he was nine. There are only 13 years between us, and I’ve always treated him like a little brother, so I believed we had a good, cool relationship. I didn’t say anything to him or his friends at the time. I waited until my husband was home so we could have a talk together, the three of us. He refused to apologise, saying he won’t apologise for “saying the truth.” My husband and his ex-wife (who he also called) decided to ground him by not allowing his friends over until he apologises. He lives with us full-time but often visits his mum, and she visits frequently too. I’m good friends with my husband’s ex-wife, she’s even invited to all family events. All of my stepson’s “facts” are factually untrue, which is what truly puzzles me. I don’t think the punishment is unreasonable.

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CremeEggThief · 31/10/2025 21:35

Glowingup · 31/10/2025 10:12

No they don’t normally call them whores or talk about them in a sexualised way. Maybe they say they’re annoying/controlling/boring or whatever but I would have been shocked as a teen if someone talked about their stepmum like that. The only ones that did were off the rails in other ways and turned out to have personality disorders (including someone I knew who used to goad her mum to kill herself and say stuff like “I know you want to”).

Wise up love! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
If this shocks you, I really really hope you never hear them talking about female teachers they don't like.....

Horrible, but it's a phase... For most of them anyway.

SleeplessInWherever · 31/10/2025 21:33

FunMustard · 31/10/2025 20:09

Have you met a teenager? A teenager whose parents split when he was 9? And who is now starting to realise his ancient dad was shacking up with a student?

I don't get the comments here. You can't apply rational thinking to an irrational situation, which for a 16 year old, this is.

I can do better than that.

I’ve been a teenager, whose parents separated when I was 8, because my father had an affair with a much younger woman and left for her. And moved in with her and her family, leaving his own children behind.

He’s a dick because he had an affair, not because of her age. I don’t recall ever giving a shit how old she was. Doesn’t make a single iota of difference.

You absolutely can be rational as a child from a divorced and reblended family.

It’s important to remember OP met her husband a year after their separation. So “learning he was shacking up with a student” isn’t a thing, because there’s apparently no affair or leaving for anyone else.

Zempy · 31/10/2025 21:29

You really don’t understand why a 16 year old boy would have difficulty with his 54 year old dad dating a 29 year old woman?

CremeEggThief · 31/10/2025 21:23

Hoppinggreen · 31/10/2025 10:10

Not to that extent in my opinion.
You would think that being called a Whore by a teenager in your life to be ok?

No I don't think it's ok, but I often heard my son call his stepmother that. It's what young lads do with their pals whether women agree or not.

It put me in a very awkward position as she was a homewrecker, so I did actually agree. Any woman who knowingly takes a married man with children away from a wife and family is not a nice person to put it VERY mildly indeed...

FunMustard · 31/10/2025 20:09

SleeplessInWherever · 31/10/2025 16:47

More upset about who his grown up father chose to be with?

If they’re happy, and their family/household is working well, I think being upset because of someone’s age is a fairly dramatic take tbh.

Have you met a teenager? A teenager whose parents split when he was 9? And who is now starting to realise his ancient dad was shacking up with a student?

I don't get the comments here. You can't apply rational thinking to an irrational situation, which for a 16 year old, this is.

CypressGrove · 31/10/2025 19:39

So there is 25 years between the OP and the step dad, and 13 years between the OP and the step son. And she has a 'cool' big sister type relationship with him. I can understand why he's embarrassed about the situation and why he has responded badly to his friends likely teasing him about it. Doesn't make it right - but I think support and therapy for the boy is more in order than punishment or kicking him out.

Dweetfidilove · 31/10/2025 19:32

seasid · 31/10/2025 18:52

This is CRAZY. So because dad has more money, he gets to have the child???? Money doesn’t mean a better parent. It’s obvious he doesn’t like you by what you overheard, yet he has to put up with his life with you and his dad because dad has more money

At 16, he could vote with his feet. Dad set mom up 7 years ago and the boy knows where to find her.
Instead of disappearing down a hole of hateful behaviour, he could go and live with his mother.
We read about teenagers choosing one parent or the other all the time.

Gloriia · 31/10/2025 19:06

'I’ll add the caveat that seems to be required on this thread, (despite no one saying anything of the sort), of course the sons misogyny is utterly appalling'

Yes I wonder where he gets it from, to treat women as objects and with such disrespect? It's a mystery.

seasid · 31/10/2025 18:52

cococream · 31/10/2025 11:16

Because his dad can provide a higher quality of life than his mum.

This is CRAZY. So because dad has more money, he gets to have the child???? Money doesn’t mean a better parent. It’s obvious he doesn’t like you by what you overheard, yet he has to put up with his life with you and his dad because dad has more money

arethereanyleftatall · 31/10/2025 18:51

SleeplessInWherever · 31/10/2025 18:45

He didn’t leave his family for her. He’d already left.

I’d hope that after 7 years, most would just be happy that she’s not an evil stepmother and that their father is happy.

I don’t think that’s their worry, of the ones I know. They are just embarrassed.

SleeplessInWherever · 31/10/2025 18:45

arethereanyleftatall · 31/10/2025 18:18

If they’re happy, and their family/household is working well, I think being upset because of someone’s age is a fairly dramatic take tbh.

@SleeplessInWherever
the 16 year olds I know (a few) who’s fathers have left the family to date someone 30 years younger who could be their sister are very very unhappy about it. Maybe the few I know aren’t representative, I don’t know.

I’ll add the caveat that seems to be required on this thread, (despite no one saying anything of the sort), of course the sons misogyny is utterly appalling.

He didn’t leave his family for her. He’d already left.

I’d hope that after 7 years, most would just be happy that she’s not an evil stepmother and that their father is happy.

arethereanyleftatall · 31/10/2025 18:18

If they’re happy, and their family/household is working well, I think being upset because of someone’s age is a fairly dramatic take tbh.

@SleeplessInWherever
the 16 year olds I know (a few) who’s fathers have left the family to date someone 30 years younger who could be their sister are very very unhappy about it. Maybe the few I know aren’t representative, I don’t know.

I’ll add the caveat that seems to be required on this thread, (despite no one saying anything of the sort), of course the sons misogyny is utterly appalling.

Gloriia · 31/10/2025 17:45

Balloonhearts · 31/10/2025 17:31

Actually you can. Smacking is legal in England. And if my son came out with that, better believe I would. Not that he would because he was raised to know better.

You'd physically assault a 16yr old? I don't think that would help.

Howmanycatsistoomany · 31/10/2025 17:37

Gloriia · 31/10/2025 17:12

16yr olds often talk crap. Yes his insulting language is unpleasant but 'grounding' him is ridiculous.

Kids lash out and say shit stuff. It's not new news. What the df should do is talk to him, tell him to treat women with respect (that might be a hard sell tbf) and see why he is so angry.

Also, don't eavesdrop.

So if you overheard a conversation that included "whore" and your name coming out of the mouth of your teenage stepson you wouldn't stop and listen? I call bullshit.

Kids lash out and say shit stuff? He's 16, closer to man than child, and he's an offensive little gobshite. If I'd ever called a woman in my family a whore, I'd have fully expected to have my arse handed to me. And I'd have deserved it!

Balloonhearts · 31/10/2025 17:31

BunnyLake · 31/10/2025 12:59

You can’t tan hides or arse smack unless you want to be arrested. A good talking to by his dad is what he needs.

Actually you can. Smacking is legal in England. And if my son came out with that, better believe I would. Not that he would because he was raised to know better.

Gloriia · 31/10/2025 17:12

Createausername1970 · 31/10/2025 17:02

This forum is bonkers sometimes.

There is a 16 year old boy spouting Andrew Tate based crap and but the whole focus of the thread is the age gap between his dad and step-mum.

Whilst I can accept he might not like that age gap, or feel the step mum might be to blame for his parents separation, it in no way minimises the language or the sentiment behind that language.

Have you all eaten too many Halloween sweets and having sugar highs?

16yr olds often talk crap. Yes his insulting language is unpleasant but 'grounding' him is ridiculous.

Kids lash out and say shit stuff. It's not new news. What the df should do is talk to him, tell him to treat women with respect (that might be a hard sell tbf) and see why he is so angry.

Also, don't eavesdrop.

Createausername1970 · 31/10/2025 17:02

This forum is bonkers sometimes.

There is a 16 year old boy spouting Andrew Tate based crap and but the whole focus of the thread is the age gap between his dad and step-mum.

Whilst I can accept he might not like that age gap, or feel the step mum might be to blame for his parents separation, it in no way minimises the language or the sentiment behind that language.

Have you all eaten too many Halloween sweets and having sugar highs?

SleeplessInWherever · 31/10/2025 16:47

FunMustard · 31/10/2025 16:08

A 47 year old and a 22 year old got together, even worse. He might have been ok with it when he was a little boy, as he gets older and can work things out, I'm not surprised he's got more upset about it.

PS NOT EXCUSING THE LANGUAGE! Just can understand why he'd be upset.

More upset about who his grown up father chose to be with?

If they’re happy, and their family/household is working well, I think being upset because of someone’s age is a fairly dramatic take tbh.

FunMustard · 31/10/2025 16:08

Gloriia · 31/10/2025 12:52

'If I found out my son had said that to his stepmother, even if I didn't like her, I would tan his behind. Disgusting misogynistic language'

No you wouldn't 'tan his backside'. You'd sit him down and ask him why he feels such disrespect surely?

Not nice to call anyone names but that is all a red herring here. A 54 yr old hooks up with a 29yr old and the 16yr old son is angry and mixed up so lashes out, quelle surprise.

A 47 year old and a 22 year old got together, even worse. He might have been ok with it when he was a little boy, as he gets older and can work things out, I'm not surprised he's got more upset about it.

PS NOT EXCUSING THE LANGUAGE! Just can understand why he'd be upset.

Howmanycatsistoomany · 31/10/2025 16:02

Ruby1985 · 31/10/2025 14:40

This is spot on… he’s never said it to your face so why make such a big deal out of it? People say different things behind each others back and you weren’t supposed to listening so why did you?!

Oh come on! Him and his mates were calling OP a “Swedish wh*re,” “only good at being Dad’s toy,” etc. In OP's house. When they knew full well there was a good chance OP would hear. And then the little brat doubles down and refuses to apologise.

OP is a better person than me because I would've gone full nuclear and kicked them all out. They wouldn't be setting foot in my house ever again.

Ruby1985 · 31/10/2025 14:40

netflixfan · 31/10/2025 09:44

Don’t listen at doors. You never hear anything good about yourself. If he’s nice to your face and you think you get on with him, you probably do. But all the other things may also have a grain of truth in them. He was talking to his pals, the things teenage boys said to one another were not for your ears.
i would just pretend I didn’t hear, and get on with life.

This is spot on… he’s never said it to your face so why make such a big deal out of it? People say different things behind each others back and you weren’t supposed to listening so why did you?!

ClareBlue · 31/10/2025 14:37

Glowingup · 31/10/2025 14:32

No she doesn’t. She says she has known him since he was 9. She also says that his parents were separated for a year before she met and started a relationship with the boys father. Anyone with reasonable intelligence would understand that to mean that she met the boy once she had started a relationship with the dad. Not some weird shit about how she must have been the nanny (because she’s Swedish - how insulting) and that her current good relationship with the boy’s mother can only be because the OP used to be the family nanny (which makes no sense whatsoever).

I specifically said it was not because she was Swedish. I give up.

SleeplessInWherever · 31/10/2025 14:35

ClareBlue · 31/10/2025 14:33

Where did I say she was in the wrong. No where. Why not read what I posted not what you think I said. I said that it is probable that she was involved in the family before and gave reasons for thinking that. I then said if that was the case then the dynamics between her and the son would be different. That's all I have said. All the other posts were clarifying where my posts were misrepresented. Like you have done.

There is literally no reason to think she’s a family nanny who had an affair with her married employer and then ran off with him. None.

It’s a wonderful story, but it’s not evidenced.

As if she’d have a good relationship with the mother if she’d been an employee who had an affair with her husband. Completely implausible.

More likely (and accurate) that she met a man, who was older than her, married him and stayed with him. It happens.

Goditsmemargaret · 31/10/2025 14:35

There are a lot of problems here. This is a frightening attitude for him to have towards women and points to an Andre Tate mindset. Is his dad doing any actual parenting beyond providing an expensive lifestyle? What is the dad's attitude to women given he started a relationship with someone 25 years younger than himself?

ClareBlue · 31/10/2025 14:33

SleeplessInWherever · 31/10/2025 14:27

Sooo just so we’re clear.

  • Man and woman separate
  • Woman gives up full custody of her son (for various reasons)
  • 2nd woman starts relationship with said man a year after his separation
  • 2nd woman is somehow in the wrong.

Never ceases to amaze me how it’s always the stepmother’s fault 😂

Where did I say she was in the wrong. No where. Why not read what I posted not what you think I said. I said that it is probable that she was involved in the family before and gave reasons for thinking that. I then said if that was the case then the dynamics between her and the son would be different. That's all I have said. All the other posts were clarifying where my posts were misrepresented. Like you have done.