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Slightyamusedandsilly · 31/10/2025 08:42

HelenaWaiting · 31/10/2025 08:32

The press, and indeed huge numbers of the British public, needed no encouragement to mount their obsessive hate campaign against Prince Harry and his wife. The people that did that need to take responsibility for it instead of lamely claiming that the RF somehow coerced them into it.

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Exactly. This is going on, on another thread about this. The instant jump from, 'first Andrew, next Harry'.

We're all consumers of the media. They only print because we read it. If there was no public interest, they'd focus on other stuff.

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JacknDiane · 31/10/2025 08:42

You are right @HedwigEliza, we haven't advanced very far if people are still defending loathsome scum who just happen to have Queen Elizabeth as their mum

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JacknDiane · 31/10/2025 08:40

MyOtherCarIsAPorsche · 31/10/2025 08:22

The Royal Family have covered up worse.

Andrew must be incandescent with rage - others got away with it.

Very true

The Mountbatten part of his name is very appropriate.

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HedwigEliza · 31/10/2025 08:36

This is a witch-hunt, really.

There is no satisfying people’s demands. He’s convicted of no crime - even by Virginia Guiffre’s account, committed no crime. But he’s so loathed and despised people won’t be satisfied unless he’s in the gutter somewhere. He’s an unpleasant character, but so many people seem to forget due process and the law when speaking about him. He has a lease on his home - he can’t be forced to leave it. His titles can only be removed by parliament- the King cannot do it, and Andrew himself cannot relinquish them, there’s no mechanism for him to do so.

No sooner did he announce he wouldn’t be using his title of Duke of York, calls were made to take away the title of Prince and his home. Now that’s happened, and it’s still not enough - now he apparently belongs behind bars. There’s so satisfying this baying mob and it demonstrates how little we’ve actually advanced over the centuries.

HelenaWaiting · 31/10/2025 08:32

Tistheseason17 · 31/10/2025 07:47

IMHO, they tried to cover it up. Getting the press to hate on Harry, whilst providing nice inside stories about Charles, Camilla,William and Kate was part of the bargain for media silence. Unfortunately, the release of the Epstein files and everything else was always going to come out. Some media outlets will support the, "strong Charles" rhetoric for more future stories.

The press, and indeed huge numbers of the British public, needed no encouragement to mount their obsessive hate campaign against Prince Harry and his wife. The people that did that need to take responsibility for it instead of lamely claiming that the RF somehow coerced them into it.

MyOtherCarIsAPorsche · 31/10/2025 08:22

The Royal Family have covered up worse.

Andrew must be incandescent with rage - others got away with it.

Coffeeishot · 31/10/2025 08:07

didntlikeanyofthesuggestions · 31/10/2025 07:49

I don't think the king was head of the royal family when this was happening.....

This,

x2boys · 31/10/2025 08:06

JacknDiane · 31/10/2025 07:42

I think that's really revealing. Rather than the king being strong and dealing with this, he has done everything in his power to cover it up.

I'd like to hear what others, especially supporters of the monarchy, think of this.

I would be happy to dispense with all of them
And I'm not totally convinced Andrew is the only one who might be worried about what will come out
I do wonder though why now?

FenceBooksCycle · 31/10/2025 07:59

I understood "the royal family fought for a long time" to mean that the late QE2 commanded thar the royal family should fight for a long time. And Chaz may have continued that a little since ascending out of force of habit but actually doesn't have to do what mummy says any more.

didntlikeanyofthesuggestions · 31/10/2025 07:49

I don't think the king was head of the royal family when this was happening.....

Tistheseason17 · 31/10/2025 07:47

IMHO, they tried to cover it up. Getting the press to hate on Harry, whilst providing nice inside stories about Charles, Camilla,William and Kate was part of the bargain for media silence. Unfortunately, the release of the Epstein files and everything else was always going to come out. Some media outlets will support the, "strong Charles" rhetoric for more future stories.

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JacknDiane · 31/10/2025 07:46

And his daughters still live in grace and favour apartments even though they aren't working royals.

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