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AIBU to think WTF were the parents thinking?

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JakeyRolling · 30/10/2025 07:24

DS (7) had his school Halloween disco last night.

Amongst the usual questionable costumes (Squid Games guards, tiny cheerleaders outfits Etc… The kind I wouldn’t do and I can’t understand why a parent would but not inherently problematic) there was one kid in a Santa outfit with a scary pointy “blood” splattered mask and a stabbing knife. (The mask is similar to the pic)
Quite apart from the fact the school has a “no masks” policy, this was for the P1-3 age group so the oldest kid was no more than 9 and therefore many kids are still believers.

DS is autistic and was a bit upset by it and we had to explain several times it was a costume.

AIBU in being pissed at the parents?

AIBU to think WTF were the parents thinking?
OP posts:
Terrytheweasel · 30/10/2025 23:17

Hussaini · 30/10/2025 21:55

I am actually a strict parent when it comes to what I let my children watch and am inclined to agree with you that it’s not great parenting to let young children play/watch such things, however the comment I quoted earlier was trying to say it was the reason for so many children stabbing each other these days and I disagree because that will be 99% drug and gang related.
There has also sadly always been children drawn into the criminal world did you miss Oliver Twist and the pickpockets? Nothing new.

All is besides the point the child this post inspired most likely didn’t even watch the scary Santa film and just saw the costume in the shop and thought it looked cool.👌🏻 The other point being some children find traditional costumes like ghosts, witches and vampires scary so where do you draw the line on banning costumes in case they scare other kids or do you just cancel halloeeen altogether?

I’d cancel it personally. Just another excuse for shops to sell tat, sending your kids out begging for sweeties off strangers in sexy outfits or dressed as serial killers is utterly bizarre - why we need this in our lives I do not know. There are so many other events more joyful and positive that we could celebrate.

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 30/10/2025 22:28

ThatCyanCat · 30/10/2025 22:00

Is it debunked? I thought it was inconclusive.

Depends whose funding the research tbh

ThatCyanCat · 30/10/2025 22:00

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 30/10/2025 21:53

Because this argument has been going on since slashers became big in the 80s and just as much research debunks the idea...

Is it debunked? I thought it was inconclusive.

Hussaini · 30/10/2025 21:55

Terrytheweasel · 30/10/2025 20:50

When you have games like grand theft auto being played by young children where you can buy drugs and guns and engage with pimps, etc - I’m not sure how this wouldn’t impact young minds. There are children age 6 playing this. There have been so many studies proving the link, that it’s surprising that anyone would still try to argue against it. Very odd.
Isis use videos of beheadings to desensitise their child soldiers for a reason.

Edited

I am actually a strict parent when it comes to what I let my children watch and am inclined to agree with you that it’s not great parenting to let young children play/watch such things, however the comment I quoted earlier was trying to say it was the reason for so many children stabbing each other these days and I disagree because that will be 99% drug and gang related.
There has also sadly always been children drawn into the criminal world did you miss Oliver Twist and the pickpockets? Nothing new.

All is besides the point the child this post inspired most likely didn’t even watch the scary Santa film and just saw the costume in the shop and thought it looked cool.👌🏻 The other point being some children find traditional costumes like ghosts, witches and vampires scary so where do you draw the line on banning costumes in case they scare other kids or do you just cancel halloeeen altogether?

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 30/10/2025 21:53

Terrytheweasel · 30/10/2025 20:50

When you have games like grand theft auto being played by young children where you can buy drugs and guns and engage with pimps, etc - I’m not sure how this wouldn’t impact young minds. There are children age 6 playing this. There have been so many studies proving the link, that it’s surprising that anyone would still try to argue against it. Very odd.
Isis use videos of beheadings to desensitise their child soldiers for a reason.

Edited

Because this argument has been going on since slashers became big in the 80s and just as much research debunks the idea...

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 30/10/2025 21:51

Terrytheweasel · 30/10/2025 16:44

You’re incredibly naive and clearly don’t have children.

Sure ok. Whatever you say.

Terrytheweasel · 30/10/2025 20:50

Hussaini · 30/10/2025 11:44

Kids stabbing each other has absolutely nothing to do with dressing up as scary Santa for Halloween. It’s mostly drug and gang related

When you have games like grand theft auto being played by young children where you can buy drugs and guns and engage with pimps, etc - I’m not sure how this wouldn’t impact young minds. There are children age 6 playing this. There have been so many studies proving the link, that it’s surprising that anyone would still try to argue against it. Very odd.
Isis use videos of beheadings to desensitise their child soldiers for a reason.

SwingTheMonkey · 30/10/2025 20:17

SideshowItchy · 30/10/2025 16:12

I would assume the op is objecting on the "tiny cheerleaders outfits" maybe being sexualised? and not leggings types

I have to say that when I was looking at zombie cheerleader costumes for my daughter last year, I didn’t see any that were sexualised. Just skirt and top/dresses with pom poms.

Terrytheweasel · 30/10/2025 16:44

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 30/10/2025 12:24

The argument that scary movies make kids violent has literally been going on since the slasher films of the 80s and it's really not the case

Violence is worse now because police officers are stretched to the limit and don't have the manpower to have beat patrols and be visible, growing disregard for the police (which mostly is an American import in ACAB because of racist cops but also because of police actions here like Sarah Everard and lack of action in grooming gangs) meaning kids don't respect them, parents generally not having the same respect either, fear of even trying to discipline children because of being labelled "abusive" (and that's by the parents)....

You’re incredibly naive and clearly don’t have children.

LeaningOnTheEverlastingArms · 30/10/2025 16:20

You are not being unreasonable.
But my kids were never at Halloween events, it’s a horrible thing.

SideshowItchy · 30/10/2025 16:12

SnappyOchre · 30/10/2025 07:26

Not appropriate, no.

A lot of little girls that age do cheerleading as an extra curricular so I don’t see why that’s so inappropriate.

I would assume the op is objecting on the "tiny cheerleaders outfits" maybe being sexualised? and not leggings types

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 30/10/2025 15:58

TheZanyZebra · 30/10/2025 15:41

how can it be the same when kids only know the cute version of witches and ghosts, but the only version of a horror character is that horror character.

The part where I explained how there are non-horror movie versions of the characters which children may have encountered?

SwingTheMonkey · 30/10/2025 15:48

Tiebiter · 30/10/2025 07:36

My DD is going trick or treating as a zombie cheerleader. It's just a cheerleader type sports jumper, leggings, pom poms and some zombie make up. I don't know what's wrong with that?

There’s nothing wrong with it at all. My daughter (10 at the time) went as a zombie cheerleader last year. The costume wasn’t in the least bit sexy - just a knee length dress with pom poms.

Miyagi99 · 30/10/2025 15:45

JakeyRolling · 30/10/2025 14:22

I think you miss my point - it was some girls specifically that were not dressed age appropriately in cheerleader outfits. They were 6/7/8!

As for the no masks policy it’s probably in part due to the SEN unit attached to the school.

I still don’t know what you mean by age appropriate cheerleading outfits, girls can go to cheerleading classes at that age and wear the costumes, they are in no way sexual, especially at that age?

TheZanyZebra · 30/10/2025 15:41

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 30/10/2025 13:29

It's exactly the same

Just because there are "cute" versions doesn't stop them coming from a place of horror, violence, aggression and evil

Pennywise, Art, Freddie, Jason, Chucky... all come from violent, scary films but are also now pop culture icon who do have "cute" versions and parody versions and humorous videos on social media and cuddly toy version and Fortnite skins. It's entirely possible to know these characters without ever having seen the movies they come from

how can it be the same when kids only know the cute version of witches and ghosts, but the only version of a horror character is that horror character.

Sunsetswimming · 30/10/2025 15:37

millymollymoomoo · 30/10/2025 07:31

I don’t see an issue with it. It’s a costume and Halloween

You really don’t see an issue with making young children scared of Father Christmas? And you don’t understand that young children may not necessarily appreciate it’s a costume?

Hussaini · 30/10/2025 15:25

Foundress · 30/10/2025 12:20

Then I as a parent would have said no you can’t have that particular mask. It is not appropriate for a child. As I said previously some parents don’t see an issue with allowing their children to be exposed to these characters (however the child is exposed to the characters). Those parents might buy the mask for their child. Their choice. I find it depressing and an erosion of childhood innocence. Just my view.

The comment above yours explains what I am getting at more eloquently than I can try to. Halloween is meant to be scary, the traditional costumes aren’t much different vampires and zombies are terrifying to some kids and commit violent acts. Witches were real women killed for being spinsters or a little weird etc.

BauhausOfEliott · 30/10/2025 15:18

My guess is that the parents didn't want to spend money/time on a costume and just bought the mask online to go with a Santa costume they had left over from Christmas. It's a desperation/last minute thing, I'd have thought. I doubt it means the child has seen the film it's from, or knows anything about it.

Obviously if there was a rule that specified no masks, he shouldn't have been wearing one and the school should have taken it off him. But other than that, I think you're overthinking really. It's Halloween. It's meant to be scary. That's the whole point of it.

One of my friends dressed her small child as Hannibal Lecter once. The child didn't have a clue who that was, obviously, or what the film was about, but was running around in his boiler suit and hockey mask cheerfully telling us all that he was 'dressed up as a scary monster who wears a mask so he can't eat people'. I personally found it to be the funniest thing ever, particularly because he was such an incredibly cute and cuddly child. (Admittedly that wasn't for a children's party; it was an evening party mostly for adults, but there were quite a few kids present who were playing together.)

batt3nb3rg · 30/10/2025 14:56

TheUsualChaos · 30/10/2025 08:12

Why aren't little kids dressing up as witches cats and ghosts anymore? Honestly what are parents thinking? Halloween doesn't = horror

The ones without trashy parents with impaired decision making skills still are. Look on the bright side- it’s a rare opportunity to cull some of these families from your social circle. There’s no way I’d be encouraging my child to form or continue a friendship with a child who had parents who thought it was appropriate for them to dress up as a murder victim or a character from 18+ media in primary school.

Falseknock · 30/10/2025 14:37

Terrytheweasel · 30/10/2025 11:44

I’m looking at current statistics and how violence amongst children is increasing, especially knife crime.
I’m not referring to medieval times - we’ve moved on from public executions - or would you like to see them being brought back? Even still, Child on child crime has never been as bad as it is now. This is going on official statistics - not anecdotal evidence or the daily mail.
I’ve shared my thoughts and won’t engage further with you as we’re clearly on very different pages.

Wow really?
You don't want to talk about the history of violence and brutality, and how it goes through the generations. People are not born violent it comes from the way they are brought up. Not the last 20 years of horror. I was brought up watching horror and I never stabbed anyone. There is no statistics for how many people watches horror and enacts it. I've read it all now and that criminal justice degree I completed ain't worth shit it's horror that's the cause of violence now.

JakeyRolling · 30/10/2025 14:22

CausalInference · 30/10/2025 09:25

How can you have a "no masks" policy for a halloween disco? Heard it all now! I also don't understand your issue with cheerleaders, my daughter was a zombie cheerleader last year at her primary school disco. Her outfit wasn't remotely "skimpy" she wears far less clothing for her dance competitions and as others point out quite a few children go to cheerleading clubs anyway, it's a form of dance/acrobatics, my child's dance school also offers pom classes.

While I agree the mask here is too much for a primary school halloween disco it's scary and a bit of an odd choice. I did say no to a few costumes my 7 year old wanted to go in because they were too scary for the little ones, he settled on the grim reaper, it does look a little creepy (hood, skelaton face and light up red eyes) but it is halloween! Some kids go as horror film characters, there was a fantastic pennywise costume last year, it did look freaky (he had his face painted, no mask) he obviously won't have had any idea what film the character was from (I know the mum well, he 100% hasn't seen the film), he was just a scary clown to him. Our school doesn't have any policy on dress code for the discos but the head did take any pretend weapons off the kids on the door last year, quite a few of the y5 and y6 last year came as deadpool etc.

I think you miss my point - it was some girls specifically that were not dressed age appropriately in cheerleader outfits. They were 6/7/8!

As for the no masks policy it’s probably in part due to the SEN unit attached to the school.

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BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 30/10/2025 13:29

TheZanyZebra · 30/10/2025 13:06

But claiming witches and zombies and vampires are somehow cuter and less horrific is ignoring their past and context the same as a child dressing as a character they only know from memes and social media rather than the film

not really

witches, zombies and vampires are so deep in our current culture in all forms, including cute versions, Kawaii versions, soft toys version that they cannot be compared for a minute to a current movie where the character only exists in the horror context.

Casper the cartoon carter is just a friendly ghost, it's not that deep, it's just cute.
Primary school kids don't know the context, why should they.

It's exactly the same

Just because there are "cute" versions doesn't stop them coming from a place of horror, violence, aggression and evil

Pennywise, Art, Freddie, Jason, Chucky... all come from violent, scary films but are also now pop culture icon who do have "cute" versions and parody versions and humorous videos on social media and cuddly toy version and Fortnite skins. It's entirely possible to know these characters without ever having seen the movies they come from

WellYouWereMythTaken · 30/10/2025 13:12

I see go issue with a little “zombie cheerleader” or whatever. But that mask… not ok. These are young kids and imo their costumes should be fun not properly scary.

TheZanyZebra · 30/10/2025 13:06

But claiming witches and zombies and vampires are somehow cuter and less horrific is ignoring their past and context the same as a child dressing as a character they only know from memes and social media rather than the film

not really

witches, zombies and vampires are so deep in our current culture in all forms, including cute versions, Kawaii versions, soft toys version that they cannot be compared for a minute to a current movie where the character only exists in the horror context.

Casper the cartoon carter is just a friendly ghost, it's not that deep, it's just cute.
Primary school kids don't know the context, why should they.

ChannelLightVessel · 30/10/2025 13:03

Funnily enough, I used to live in the US, when DD was of elementary school age, and American Halloween costumes are usually not scary. It’s just a chance to wear fancy dress. The younger children often dressed up as their favourite Disney/superhero characters, the older ones as a whole variety, from a vending machine to an old lady. There was a school rule that no weapons or masks were allowed.