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To think it's time for a woman to be Prime Minister

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Cinnamon77 · 30/10/2025 06:34

It doesn't look like Starmer is going to be PM for much longer but all the favourites to replace him are men.

Every female PM we've had has been Conservative - no woman has ever led the Labour Party before.

Wouldn't it be an improvement to have a left wing woman running the country, like we've seen elsewhere? There are many good female MPs in Labour like Raynor, Mahmood, Huq, Phillips, Siddiq, Leadbeater, Thornberry, Dodds, Kendall, Haigh, Butler and Reeves (Ellie, not Rachel).

Why aren't any of them contenders and wouldn't we be doing better if one of them was in charge?

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Jollyjoy · 31/10/2025 09:27

Dandelionsfordinner · 30/10/2025 23:28

Omg you mean countries with nearly zero immigration, completely homogenous? Get off social media and learn to read.

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It may just be me because I can’t read, but I don’t understand your comment. You mean the countries are homogeneous? The women leaders?

Y0208680333367 · 31/10/2025 00:23

You’re forgetting that Labour hate women. They’re misogyny central. Hence they’ve never had a female leader. Whereas the conservatives have had 4 I think.

DelphiniumBlue · 31/10/2025 00:16

It’s a poisoned chalice right now, no one could do a good job given the issues at hand, the budget available and the determination of both the far left and right to bring down and discredit the more centrist politicians, as well as the destructive tendencies of the press.
So no, I wouldn’t wish it on a woman who would then be blamed because she is a woman, and then used as an excuse not to have a female PM for the next generation.

Dandelionsfordinner · 30/10/2025 23:28

Jollyjoy · 30/10/2025 09:11

Bahahaha. I was with you to some extent but then you suggested Nicola Sturgeon was competent - and most offensively - progressive- and that Scotland ‘did well’. Come on, where have you been for the last few years?

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Omg you mean countries with nearly zero immigration, completely homogenous? Get off social media and learn to read.

Dandelionsfordinner · 30/10/2025 23:24

Mere1 · 30/10/2025 07:07

As were Truss and May. All three were disastrous. Your sex does not determine your capability. I would support any capable Labour candidate.

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As were all the men, no? And they came from a much bigger pool too with all the odds and conditions in their favour.
So few women are able to get to the top due to sexism, institutional oppression and mysoginy the pool isn't great.
Look what the most privileged of the human species and male have done to the country.
Do you ever leave the house? Imagine what women have to deal with to get ahead in politics.
Lieber hate women, the party that supports erosion of women's rights and never had a female leader. That's why they welcome third world criminals who view women as chattel and sell it as a good thing to morons and sheeple.

johntorodesfatcheeks · 30/10/2025 21:59

BlueJuniper94 · 30/10/2025 21:45

Yes it was

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Well thank fuck for that

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 30/10/2025 21:49

Baffling that people are still referring to Starmer's Labour as "Left".

We're a year and a half in, and there is no evidence whatsoever of them being any such thing.

BlueJuniper94 · 30/10/2025 21:45

johntorodesfatcheeks · 30/10/2025 10:47

“What was wrong with Truss and May?”

Is that a joke?

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Yes it was

ThisLemonHare · 30/10/2025 12:39

I don't care who does the job as long as they're competent. The challenges seem overwhelming at the moment.

Labour made it obvious in various ways that they have a woman problem, which is why I lost patience and no longer vote for them. I can't think of any Labour women that would be a safe pair of hands. Rosie Duffield has integrity but is no longer Labour.

PP is quite right that the Tories seem to use placeholder women to clear up the mess that men made.

Neemie · 30/10/2025 12:13

Cinnamon77 · 30/10/2025 10:45

Same. But the men aren't really competent, are they?

Someone said this is no time to move. But Labour MPs are already moving - so we're going to have 6 months of backstabbing, meanwhile the economy and Islamophobia will just get worse.

This is the time for a competent socialist woman to be in charge.

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Socialism involves the government owning and controlling everything. You have to have an awful lot of faith in your political leaders to think any of them would ever be up to the job.

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Cinnamon77 · 30/10/2025 11:10

I have a New Zealand friend who told me she was excellent.

Apparently there's a lot of far right incels in NZ who made a lot of noise about her at the time.

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JoyintheMorning · 30/10/2025 10:56

Cinnamon77 · 30/10/2025 08:42

New Zealand. Scotland. Iceland. All had left wing women as leaders and all did very well. Progressive countries that are welcoming to refugees and have good healthcare

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You have no idea of the problems Jacinda the Performer caused in New Zealand. Properties, population. Terrible.

miraxxx · 30/10/2025 10:56

LadyKenya · 30/10/2025 09:12

I would prefer Bell Ribeiro-Addy personally.

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Well you would. She would bankrupt the country with a 18 trillion pound reparations payout.

miraxxx · 30/10/2025 10:54

Neemie · 30/10/2025 09:22

I generally associate the left with rather narrow minded older men who like telling everyone how they should live their lives. The women seem to be cast in supporting roles.

Truth. None as sexist as the old militants and new intersectional "feminists".

johntorodesfatcheeks · 30/10/2025 10:47

BlueJuniper94 · 30/10/2025 06:40

Raynor as PM?!

You've had Truss and May, what was wrong with them?

Why does it have to be a woman

“What was wrong with Truss and May?”

Is that a joke?

JoyintheMorning · 30/10/2025 10:47

Competence is in the eye of the beholder.

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Cinnamon77 · 30/10/2025 10:45

Octavia64 · 30/10/2025 10:40

Idgaf which sex the PM is as long as they are competent.

Same. But the men aren't really competent, are they?

Someone said this is no time to move. But Labour MPs are already moving - so we're going to have 6 months of backstabbing, meanwhile the economy and Islamophobia will just get worse.

This is the time for a competent socialist woman to be in charge.

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Octavia64 · 30/10/2025 10:40

Idgaf which sex the PM is as long as they are competent.

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Cinnamon77 · 30/10/2025 10:40

JoyintheMorning · 30/10/2025 10:16

This is no time to experiment. We had his Chief of Staff Sue Grey, NOT successful.
If they change Starmer it needs to be someone with a few years experience of running something political. A female Mayor would be good but are there any?
Would running a Union like Sharon Graham or Frances O'Grady be enough? I think they would trip over the rules and methods of House of Commons.
Long term I can see Mahmood in the senior role. Currently there is no vacancy, Keir will cling on partly because he is stubborn (he wrongly thinks that is strength) and the turmoil of change temporarily would wreck the Party. One could also say that a Leadership Contest in Labour would stall UK politics and take 2% off GDP and add 2% to interest rates.
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Sounds like it's not a case of if but when. There's a story on the BBC today about a growing rise of frustration among Labour MPs with talk of votes of no confidence and plotting to attack in May 2026. This time next year there is no chance that Starmer will still be PM.

We should all rally around Mahmood. She seems like a decent woman who would do a better job.

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JoyintheMorning · 30/10/2025 10:16

This is no time to experiment. We had his Chief of Staff Sue Grey, NOT successful.
If they change Starmer it needs to be someone with a few years experience of running something political. A female Mayor would be good but are there any?
Would running a Union like Sharon Graham or Frances O'Grady be enough? I think they would trip over the rules and methods of House of Commons.
Long term I can see Mahmood in the senior role. Currently there is no vacancy, Keir will cling on partly because he is stubborn (he wrongly thinks that is strength) and the turmoil of change temporarily would wreck the Party. One could also say that a Leadership Contest in Labour would stall UK politics and take 2% off GDP and add 2% to interest rates.
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JHound · 30/10/2025 10:15

I don’t support having a female PM just for the sake of having a female PM.

And any woman who would take over from Starmer would just be handed a poisoned chalice

Isheagrump · 30/10/2025 09:29

Cinnamon77 · 30/10/2025 06:34

It doesn't look like Starmer is going to be PM for much longer but all the favourites to replace him are men.

Every female PM we've had has been Conservative - no woman has ever led the Labour Party before.

Wouldn't it be an improvement to have a left wing woman running the country, like we've seen elsewhere? There are many good female MPs in Labour like Raynor, Mahmood, Huq, Phillips, Siddiq, Leadbeater, Thornberry, Dodds, Kendall, Haigh, Butler and Reeves (Ellie, not Rachel).

Why aren't any of them contenders and wouldn't we be doing better if one of them was in charge?

I think you massively underestimate the level of sexism in the U.K., particularly now that the straight white men feel hard done by in everything…

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Cinnamon77 · 30/10/2025 09:27

LadyKenya · 30/10/2025 09:12

I would prefer Bell Ribeiro-Addy personally.

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She's very impressive

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Neemie · 30/10/2025 09:22

I generally associate the left with rather narrow minded older men who like telling everyone how they should live their lives. The women seem to be cast in supporting roles.

LadyKenya · 30/10/2025 09:12

BlueJuniper94 · 30/10/2025 06:42

Dawn Butler as PM 🤭

I would prefer Bell Ribeiro-Addy personally.