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To accept a huge loss on my house

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CurlyHairMare1 · 29/10/2025 18:33

I live in a semi detached house in a quiet cul de sac. I’ve spent a lot of money doing it up and making it lovely. Early this year my neighbours (the ones I’m attached to) sold their house incredibly cheaply as it needed an awful lot of work doing to it.

A man bought it to do up and rent out, I understood he had a property business so assumed he’d be the landlord.

Fast forward to now and he’s actually turned it in to an HMO. He has a number of them across the city.

I put my house on the market in Spring and I just can not sell it due to the HMO. I’ve had a number of offers accepted and they have all pulled out when they have found out what I’m attached to so I’m now declaring it up front.

Would I be unreasonable to sell my house for way under asking price just so I can get rid of it? The estate agent has suggested it would need to go for nearly 100k less to even get any kind of interest.

I’m exhausted with the whole situation.

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CurlyHairMare1 · 30/10/2025 09:28

thecatneuterer · 30/10/2025 09:01

That was what I was wondering. I've a few HMOs. The tenants are all lovely.

The plan was to sell even before I knew about the HMO. Now it turns out it’s impossible as no one wants to be attached to one

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Jc2001 · 30/10/2025 09:20

utamea · 29/10/2025 23:52

This is goign to happen a lot more if asylum seekers are dispersed into HMOs. Houses of all male occupants, way over occupied - not in a legal sense obviously because the landlord will comply with the letter of the law. But there are 6 adult males in a 3 bed semi. This ought to be unacceptable. It will happen to lots more people - finding themselves attached to an HMO which massively impacts their property value.

Accepting the loss seems absolutely shocking. It’s a gigantic loss. I don’t know what I would do. How can you afford the loss firstly, and secondly how can you know that if you move, that this wouldn’t happen again?

So all those people setting fire to wheelie bins outside the asylum hotels are going to have them living next door to them now. The law of unintended consequences.

thecatneuterer · 30/10/2025 09:01

UncertainPerson · 29/10/2025 18:39

What’s actually happening with the HMO that’s making you not want to live there?

That was what I was wondering. I've a few HMOs. The tenants are all lovely.

caringcarer · 30/10/2025 09:01

This Labour government is also paying HMO LL to house asylum seekers. They often stand around in large groups outside houses smoking, vaping and intimidating others.

caringcarer · 30/10/2025 08:58

Some councils have a policy they won't allow 2 HMO next door to each other so you'd need to check with your council if they have that policy before trying to sell to person who owns HMO.

SeemedClear · 30/10/2025 08:36

Greyhound98 · 30/10/2025 06:46

I very much doubt they are working adults. The very nature of supported accommodation- of which the ‘support’ qualifies them to charge a much higher rate than standard shared accommodation, means that the tenants will be in need of support, ie with drug/alcohol issues, fresh out of prison,at risk of homelessness.
The occupants are not fully functioning professionals.

Many are working professionals though.

House prices are high. How do young professionals afford to buy or rent in some areas? Shared housing fills a need.

In my area the HMO was a staff house for a country hotel. All working, accommodation offered with the job, less cost than the hotel having to provide expensive rooms on-site.

MID50s · 30/10/2025 08:19

I would speak to your local councillor or MP and ask them why!

CurlyHairMare1 · 30/10/2025 08:15

OnlyOnAFriday · 29/10/2025 23:38

OP, you need to google if the council has an article 4 direction in place.

It does have it in place, so they must not be following their own guidelines!

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CurlyHairMare1 · 30/10/2025 08:03

ThisHeartyJadeBird · 30/10/2025 01:05

Great, okay. You also need to check the date the Article 4 came into power as it has to be before it was converted into a 6 bed HMO.

It did come in to power first, so you would assume that a licence wouldn’t have been granted without it having planning permission. But it was!

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millymollymoomoo · 30/10/2025 07:39

People should get a collective action going and Sue the govt for compensation in destroying house values to recover their losses. It’s disgusting!

Greyhound98 · 30/10/2025 06:46

I very much doubt they are working adults. The very nature of supported accommodation- of which the ‘support’ qualifies them to charge a much higher rate than standard shared accommodation, means that the tenants will be in need of support, ie with drug/alcohol issues, fresh out of prison,at risk of homelessness.
The occupants are not fully functioning professionals.

ItWasTheBabycham · 30/10/2025 06:08

It doesn’t sound like there’s much you can do - either sell it at a lower price or keep it on in the hope someone might not mind.
alternatively, do the work, turn it to an hmo and sell to a landlord.

MinnieBaldock · 30/10/2025 05:57

Rough'ns not doughnuts.

MinnieBaldock · 30/10/2025 05:55

There is HMO a few doors up from us and one across the road. The parking has got a lot worse has they have turned a 3 bed house into 6 flats. God knows how this was done. Most if the houses around here that are sold have been turned into flats. We don't have any trouble from them but there has been a few doughnuts in the one along from us and the police have been in there a few times.
I would try and sell to the landlord as I wouldn't want to live right next door to a HMO.

narkyspirit · 30/10/2025 05:43

There is a HMO next door to the block where I live it was a 5 bed house, now a 9 bed HMO, all professional tenants, only issue is car parking as they all have cars. The owner of the hmo has split the plot and built a 3 bed house with 1 car park space. Lots of objections which the council took no notice of.

we have complained that some of the planners stipulations have not been completed, Bin store not built so rubbish bins blowing over in the wind etc.

There are 2 other hmo's in the street, one has huge car parking issues the other has addicts and migrants residents.

NewGirlInTown · 30/10/2025 04:03

So sorry for you. These HMOs are a fucking blight on decent neighbourhoods and the greed of these landlords makes me feel sick.
I blame Homes Under The Hammer.

ThisHeartyJadeBird · 30/10/2025 01:05

CurlyHairMare1 · 29/10/2025 23:05

We do have article 4 direction in this area.

Great, okay. You also need to check the date the Article 4 came into power as it has to be before it was converted into a 6 bed HMO.

utamea · 29/10/2025 23:52

This is goign to happen a lot more if asylum seekers are dispersed into HMOs. Houses of all male occupants, way over occupied - not in a legal sense obviously because the landlord will comply with the letter of the law. But there are 6 adult males in a 3 bed semi. This ought to be unacceptable. It will happen to lots more people - finding themselves attached to an HMO which massively impacts their property value.

Accepting the loss seems absolutely shocking. It’s a gigantic loss. I don’t know what I would do. How can you afford the loss firstly, and secondly how can you know that if you move, that this wouldn’t happen again?

PrestonMum · 29/10/2025 23:42

few things, how did you know it’s worth the expected selling price, did you add the work you spent on it? Sometimes it doesn’t work like that as the area may have a price level,

also don’t discount the fact this savings landlords isn’t on cahoots with the owner of the estate agent. They may not be handing over inquiries to you.. perhaps try another local estate agent

OnlyOnAFriday · 29/10/2025 23:38

OP, you need to google if the council has an article 4 direction in place.

OnlyOnAFriday · 29/10/2025 23:36

abracadabra1980 · 29/10/2025 20:44

This should be bloody illegal. No HMO should be legally allowed to operate in a street with non-HMO properties. I’d be contacting my MP - not that that will help you now - sorry can’t be of more help but I do have sympathy. Only idea would be to turn your own home into HMO or Air BnB it? Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

It’s actually the opposite in many cities such as Sheffield. They try not to saturate specific areas with hmos so you can only get a licence if a certain percentage of houses within a certain radius aren’t already HMOs.

SpaceRaccoon · 29/10/2025 23:31

TonTonMacoute · 29/10/2025 23:27

What's your point?

Do you want everyone to live in ghettos?

When I look at a nice road in an affluent, attractive area, what I don’t think is "oh, this would be perfect with a couple of HMOs". No-one does.

People can pretend and virtue signal about it, the reality is the OP losing 100k off the value of her house.

TonTonMacoute · 29/10/2025 23:27

SpaceRaccoon · 29/10/2025 21:36

The ideal community is a mix of different types of housing, and HMOs are a part of that.

Ideal for who exactly?

What's your point?

Do you want everyone to live in ghettos?

measureofmydreams · 29/10/2025 23:21

CurlyHairMare1 · 29/10/2025 20:25

If you don’t mind me asking, how did you friend successfully fight it?

In my experience some London boroughs they don't have an 'article 4' in place which I understand means there is no mechanism to turn down planning permission for HMOs. This makes them an open door to developers. The houses next door and opposite my DM are currently being turned from 3 bed terraced houses into 6 unit homes.

The house next door was previously a privately let HMO with a caring landlord and lovely tenants who used to visit my parents and have a chat and tea with them. DPs used to take in parcels etc.

This development is by a company that has around 50 other similar properties. They didn't fulfil their legal duty of issuing a party wall notification before work started, but there is no real redress if you don't (unless you have money and can do it quickly). They will contract to the council any day now. We've been to the planning dept, building control, planning meetings and our MP but it's no good.

My DM is in her late 80s and recently widowed and worried. There is an HMO in the next road, a resident recently damaged cars on DMs road, throwing stones and rocks at them. There was a murder in an HMO in a neighbouring road a couple of years ago ( not to mention anti-social drug dealing, excessive noise and fly tipping etc). I can only hope that DM gets good neighbours. We've fitted an alarm and a ring doorbell to help her feel safe.

I don't know that there is anything else we can do. My DM has lived there since early 1970s, it has memories of my DF and she shouldn't feel forced out.

MID50s · 29/10/2025 23:06

Netty909 · 29/10/2025 22:12

There are property buying companies who will offer you approximately 80% of the value of the property. Pay your solicitors fees and there are no estate agents fees. Not great but maybe quicker sale and less of a loss? You could always contact and see if they would make an offer as an option? I feel for you - it's such a horrible situation.

Yeah, they may then do similar or student rental accommodation?