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To want to move to the UK? And if not, what part to move to?

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Applecrumble9 · 29/10/2025 14:13

I am needing a little help at the moment trying to decide what to do. We are from Ireland, but really want/need a change. We don't have jobs where we can work remotely, we don't have a particularly "saught after" skillset etc but we think England may be a good choice for us, not "too" far. We absolutely love the English countryside, we find the people so friendly and helpful, we have never lived in England but have visited and always found there was so much more "on" for families etc.
We are also very unsure of where to look to move too? Somewhere relatively "safe" and "affordable" in today's standards, we absolutely love the outdoors and the sea but somewhere near the sea may be totally out of budget, we love the countryside but not sure if that would limit work opportunities?
Any information or tips would be so greatly appreciated.

Background info : married couple, in late 30's, moving towards early 40's, we will have 1 dc by the time we make the move (planning late 2026 for the move) we do not own our home, we are renting in Ireland (more by choice as we do have a deposit and mortgage approval but houses are so overpriced in Ireland and we don't feel "settled" here so buying seemed stupid unless we wanted to stay here for sure)

I work in disability suppport which is called "social care" here in Ireland, I have a Bachelor degree in social care but from what I've read I understand in England this may not be recognised quite the same, in Ireland I earn €40,000-€50,000 per year so that's roughly £33700-£42000 but from what I can see online I would only be earning £32000 per year in England in this line of work

My husband works in construction mainly driving diggers (excavators) and that line of work, he is pretty well paid at roughly €48,000 per year in Ireland. He has looked up work in England and a lot of it seems like short term work where maybe there is a job local for a couple of weeks/months and then you are out of work again (or maybe that is just how it is advertised) he would prefer a job where he could be home every evening so he wouldn't mind a change in sector, hes very hardworking and the type who can throw his hand to anything really, in terms of yearly salary its looking like about £35000 for him.

We would have about £60,000 in savings moving over which we would use to eventually put a deposit on a house.

So all in all we would have a combined salary of roughly £67,000 and we would need full time childcare for 1 young child, and to rent a 2 bed flat, probably need 2 cars, and we would like to get a yearly holiday in...

Is this do-able? Or are we totally mad? We need a change so desperately, we love so much about Ireland but it is wearing us down and sometimes a fresh start is needed. It looks like we would be taking a big hit in salary but the cost of living seems a lot cheaper in England.

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JHound · 30/10/2025 00:28

Beeings · 29/10/2025 15:45

Christ don’t go to Birmingham! Absolute shit hole. If you want dirt cheap and aren’t bothered about it being all that nice, Hull. You can get a massive house with garden there for under £300k

Oi! Birmingham is Brill. Hull on the other hand….

Pumpkinsonastring · 29/10/2025 22:41

For where to live look at the train lines and which ones are fast. National rail enquiries 08457 484950 are brilliant if you need help to plan a route and will tell you what platform to get on etc. So maybe one of you can commute if you running two cars is too much to start with and you want to live by the coast but work inland. Annual train tickets are the cheapest cost per use but obviously expensive to purchase and you only want that for a permanent job. Carer going to people's homes you'd be using your own car, so factor in business use car insurance because of travelling to multiple places of work per day. Ordinary car insurance only covers you for commuting to one place of work per day and not having clients in the car.

Your job is in demand, especially if you're actually good! Your husband if he's in construction you probably sign up for employment agencies get temporary work (you can do this for carers too), get known as a hard worker, the agency puts more effort into finding you work if you're reliable, the more you say yes the more they'll ask you first before anyone else.

Care company may call itself an agency but that's meaning the client can book a few hours here and there. For the staff you're the agency employee which could be temporary or permanent dependant on if it's an employment agency or a care provider company. Hope that makes sense. The difference is employment agency you've less rights but more autonomy, between placements you can decide you are having a week's holiday (unpaid usually, the "holiday pay" would form part of your hourly wage and paid in with that). Care company where you're permanent employee you'd have to ask for annual leave (paid) and it's at employer's discretion when because the entire staff can't all have Christmas off.

These employment agencies do permanent roles too just tell them to sign you up for both and provide CV. There's temporary (via the agency as your employer and the work placement as their client who they invoice) that's a few weeks or days here and there upto to ongoing with no end date depending on client's wishes, useful if you're not sure about staying in a particular area of UK because you can leave when you like with short notice period (and they can get rid of you quite easily too, so they're happier to take a chance on an unknown). Short term permanent contract of 3/6/9/12 months where the client is your employer or standard permanent job with no end date. Employer pays employment agency a finders fee for permanent roles, so agency puts effort into selling the product (which is you).

Checkcheckout · 29/10/2025 22:29

I’m half Irish, my DP is Irish and I also think you’re crazy, Ireland is so much nicer 🤣. The education system here leaves a lot to be desired, yes there’s more to do but there’s not the same kind of community that you get in Ireland. Life for kids is definitely a lot more wholesome in Ireland!

Anyhow, if you’re determined to do it, I’d say you’re massively underestimating what your DH could earn in construction here. My DP and his siblings are construction workers and earn a lot more than £35k. If you want to PM me I can suggest a company he can contact for work, that seems to pretty much only have Irish people on their books, and they pay well.

Pumpkinsonastring · 29/10/2025 22:14

Applecrumble9 · 29/10/2025 15:35

Thank you so much, this is so helpful x

It's the wrong people. You're not a social worker, if I read your post correctly, you're a carer/support worker/outreach worker. It's care agencies/homes you need to speak to about your qualifications.

Social worker is the ones carrying out care act assessments to decide how much help someone is entitled to, removing children from abusive parents, organising old people to go into residential care homes, helping mentally ill people get their lives back together and helping decide who gets sectioned (hospitalised) etc.

Support worker is the one goes to homes to help disabled people access the community and it's services if they can't do that alone, carers do personal care like showering in clients home or working in a care home, outreach worker can range between like any other support worker to things like going out looking for homeless and checking they're ok.

mamagogo1 · 29/10/2025 22:10

the work you do is everywhere in the uk so you could easily move to somewhere like Northumberland which has a beautiful if wild coastline, Newcastle is a great city but small towns and villages are available for affordable accommodation because much of it is ex mining. I’ve always found people so friendly though do your homework as there’s pockets of great deprivation. You could also look at County Durham and Teeside.

if you actually fancy the south look at Somerset, there’s a lot of social care and building work available, prices higher than the north but away from Bristol and Bath it’s more affordable than much of the south.

TheLivelyRose · 29/10/2025 22:06

Honestly, don't listen to all the doom mongers, saying what a dump the uk is. Those saying this have literally never lived in a truly bad country.

Applecrumble9 · 29/10/2025 22:05

Thank you to everyone for all of the amazing suggestions and information and advice both for and against the move. I am reading every comment and appreciate them all. We have visited Leeds, York, London, Yorkshire, Somerset, The Cotswolds and we've always found the people for the most part so genuine, friendly, chatty and kind. There has always been a nice atmosphere, and always something on and appears to be lots to do. We are hyper aware that holidaying is totally different to living somewhere, and we are aware of lots of the issues the UK is facing, Ireland seems to be facing lots of the same, as does Australia, Canada etc so we aren't necessarily trying to "run" from problems like rising crime, cost of living, high levels of immigration etc because these things are everywhere. But we just want a bit of a change, something to get us out of the rut we seem to be in. Ireland has so many benefits and we do love parts of living here, but where we live its a really small town, with no amenities, no gyms/fitness facilities at all, nothing banks, no real supermarket, no community feel, its a 2 hour drive to the nearest coast, moving somewhere else here is almost impossible because of the housing crisis and our rent is just about affordable in the town we're in but were we to move somewhere "better" rent would be taking so much of our wages it would hardly be worth it. We are a little lost on what to do but all of the advice has given us so much to think about and look in to. I like the idea of spending a few weeks in an area during maternity leave to get a feel for everyday life, I think that's something Im going to start looking in to x

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TheLivelyRose · 29/10/2025 22:03

I d say with those salaries, nowhere south of the peak district
Your salaries won't go very far in the south, but they will in the north.

Cheshire? Close to wales and the coast and liverpool for a big city. Chester is lovely or for a cheaper town, Northwich.

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 29/10/2025 22:02

Itsskea · 29/10/2025 19:29

I was about to say Northern Ireland but you’re already in Ireland!
I’m Irish living in England - don’t do it, OP. Just don’t. Use that EU passport and head off to France or Spain or Italy.

There's not a lot of work in Spain..

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 29/10/2025 22:02

Fountofwisdom · 29/10/2025 15:00

Good god. Who in their right mind would move from Ireland to England in this day and age? The UK is a shit-heap and getting worse by the month. The economy is fucked, there is zero social cohesion, rising crime, immigration is out of control, etc etc.

I have lots of family in Ireland who have a far better quality of life overall. Admittedly, healthcare is expensive there, but that’s the only negative I can really think of. I think you’d be crazy to do this.

Ireland is suffering a brain drain of people in their 20s not seen since the late 80s - mostly to Australia, but also Canada and the UK.

I'd be the last person to argue that the UK is anything but a shit show right now, but unless you are well established, the work opportunities are a lot better than Ireland.

Applecrumble9 · 29/10/2025 21:55

Itsskea · 29/10/2025 19:29

I was about to say Northern Ireland but you’re already in Ireland!
I’m Irish living in England - don’t do it, OP. Just don’t. Use that EU passport and head off to France or Spain or Italy.

What's the reason? Absolutely willing to take on all suggestions advice so I appreciate the bad as much as the good. What part do you live in and what makes it so terrible? (Totally genuine questions btw) We are just so stuck in a rut in Ireland and truly unhappy with everyday life, a change up would be so good.
I think without a language we would probably struggle in France/Spain etc in our line of work. I'd love to be following the sun but Australia would cost way too much (been there done that) on sponsorship visas childcare costs are totally ridiculous (we were quoted $3000 a month multiple times for just 1 child and the place wasn't even great 😅) and then your on a temporary visa for a couple of years, PR costs up to 25k so it just seems a lot, plus we didnt find it all it was cracked up to be, Im earning more in Ireland than I did there. England or the UK in general is a much easier/cheaper move and anytime we've been on holiday there seems to be a lot more going on really, we also found most of the people really friendly and there always appears to be much better amenities obviously a holiday is totally different to actually living somewhere though so I need all of the advice x

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FrostAtMidnight · 29/10/2025 19:33

Suffolk coast- beautiful, safe, affordable and lots of good construction roles available given the various energy infrastructure projects there.

Itsskea · 29/10/2025 19:29

I was about to say Northern Ireland but you’re already in Ireland!
I’m Irish living in England - don’t do it, OP. Just don’t. Use that EU passport and head off to France or Spain or Italy.

Dramatic · 29/10/2025 18:45

I'd say Northumberland/County Durham would be a good shout. Cheap properties but some lovely villages/small towns and close enough to Newcastle or Sunderland to commute for work.

PermanentTemporary · 29/10/2025 18:36

I like living here, it’s pretty good! I’m sure you’ll find somewhere that suits you.

Applecrumble9 · 29/10/2025 18:32

Runssometimes · 29/10/2025 16:44

I think people have given really good suggestions on locations @Applecrumble9 I’m Irish and live in London. I get what you say about small town mindset but think that can exist in England too. Cost of living, particularly food and eating out is higher in Ireland but wages reflect that. With a higher population there’s more to do here in England and better transport generally but do check this before deciding on location.

I would say for your child that education is generally better in Ireland. Kids start at 4 over here and investment per child is lower in England than Ireland. And that’s with books and materials being provided in England, unlike Ireland. So the amount getting spent on pupils is markedly higher in Ireland.

Teachers aren’t as burnt out as less admin and as a profession it’s more respected in Ireland too. There are some fantastic schools in England but choose the area wisely as it’s not the norm where most schools are good unlike the case in Ireland.

I do think that it’s more downbeat here though and would likely make the move back to Ireland if jobs and situation allowed. And highly likely to be a far right government in the next five years. Which is much less likely in Ireland because of the electoral system.

Much to recommend living here though. The craic isn’t the same, but if you hate it you could always move back!

Yeah transport is terrible in Ireland, Im sure Dublin is better but anywhere outside of it is ridiculously bad.
I find since we moved back its been a huge struggle as we were so used to having lots to do, social groups, meet ups, family days when we were away, and then we moved back to nothing.
I know Im married but Im quite a social person but friends who are married have little to no interest in doing much at weekends, the same with work friends outside of work there is no interest in anyone getting together or meeting up. I've spoken to loads of people who have moved home who have had the exact same issue, even old "best friends" didnt have that much interest in regular meet ups. Obviously you could be really lucky with your friend group!

Hearing its more downbeat is a bit of a worry though, because there are days here that I think my head will explode if I have to listen to any more negativity/complaining, about weather, cost of living, and people who think the housing crisis, cost of living, immigration, crime etc are only problems in Ireland and the rest of the world is perfect, it drives me around the bend most days 😅

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Crispynoodle · 29/10/2025 18:11

Well they usually say ‘the grass is always greener….etc’. But in this case it’s absolutely not both figuratively and literally. If you really can’t be swayed from this decision then Northern Ireland might be a good choice

Teaforthetotal · 29/10/2025 16:45

allmycats · 29/10/2025 16:25

Sheffield area and the Peak District would probably suit you. If you want access to lovely countryside you have massive choice there and access to larger cities like Manchester, Nottingham etc. Bear in mind getting to the ferries from the East coast is a very long drag.

I know several people who live in Sheffield pretty happily. I live in England but keen on Scotland too.
Would it be a possibility to spend some more time in the UK during your maternity leave ? Spend a longer holiday in one of the places you're keen on with a view to getting settled? Researching job prospects etc
I love Ireland but my home town has very few amenities.
Could another option be the North of Ireland?

Runssometimes · 29/10/2025 16:44

I think people have given really good suggestions on locations @Applecrumble9 I’m Irish and live in London. I get what you say about small town mindset but think that can exist in England too. Cost of living, particularly food and eating out is higher in Ireland but wages reflect that. With a higher population there’s more to do here in England and better transport generally but do check this before deciding on location.

I would say for your child that education is generally better in Ireland. Kids start at 4 over here and investment per child is lower in England than Ireland. And that’s with books and materials being provided in England, unlike Ireland. So the amount getting spent on pupils is markedly higher in Ireland.

Teachers aren’t as burnt out as less admin and as a profession it’s more respected in Ireland too. There are some fantastic schools in England but choose the area wisely as it’s not the norm where most schools are good unlike the case in Ireland.

I do think that it’s more downbeat here though and would likely make the move back to Ireland if jobs and situation allowed. And highly likely to be a far right government in the next five years. Which is much less likely in Ireland because of the electoral system.

Much to recommend living here though. The craic isn’t the same, but if you hate it you could always move back!

DdraigGoch · 29/10/2025 16:28

North Wales? You've got access to the sea, it's reasonably affordable (outside of Abersoch) and you wouldn't be far from Holyhead ferry port if you wanted to head back for the weekend to see family.

allmycats · 29/10/2025 16:25

Sheffield area and the Peak District would probably suit you. If you want access to lovely countryside you have massive choice there and access to larger cities like Manchester, Nottingham etc. Bear in mind getting to the ferries from the East coast is a very long drag.

Applecrumble9 · 29/10/2025 16:23

Fountofwisdom · 29/10/2025 15:00

Good god. Who in their right mind would move from Ireland to England in this day and age? The UK is a shit-heap and getting worse by the month. The economy is fucked, there is zero social cohesion, rising crime, immigration is out of control, etc etc.

I have lots of family in Ireland who have a far better quality of life overall. Admittedly, healthcare is expensive there, but that’s the only negative I can really think of. I think you’d be crazy to do this.

Appreciate all feedback both good and bad so I take your points on board, however Ireland also has all of these problems in bucket loads to be honest, the economy is not bad on paper, but for us middle earners it is really difficult to believe it. We live in a tiny rental in a small little town, its for the most part quite safe but there are no amenities, no proper supermarket, no bank, no gym/swimming pool or sporting/fitness facility of any kind aside from a GAA pitch, everyone knows everyone's business or atleast thinks they do so people can't sneeze without someone noticing it (it doesn't affect me directly as I lead quite a boring life so nothing for them to talk about 😅 but im not big into mindless gossip so its draining at times)
But its more about a fresh start really, we are a bit stuck in a rut here to be honest. We lived abroad (not England) previously and absolutely loved it, we have not been happy really since moving home. We adore our families, love them with all of our heart, they are fantastic but at times the expectations for constant meals/parties/nights out/visits can be a little much, financially and time wise.
We pay €2500 a year for private health insurance just so that if something serious does happen to us we might have some hope of being seen by a doctor or consultant within a year.

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Jackiepumpkinhead · 29/10/2025 16:07

I’d recommend East Anglia, so north Essex, Suffolk and Norfolk (excluding Cambridgeshire as that can be pricey in parts and no coastline). Beautiful countryside and beaches. If you stick to north Essex/parts of Suffolk you will have good access to London for work and leisure. Even Norwich has good connections to London. People will often mention living in the north for affordability but I think the East Anglia is great value.

Beeings · 29/10/2025 15:45

Applecrumble9 · 29/10/2025 15:31

A quick look online at grocery prices/bill comparisons/car prices that kind of thing, I have a friend in Birmingham who says the cost of living for her is a lot cheaper, but again Im here for all advice/information.

Christ don’t go to Birmingham! Absolute shit hole. If you want dirt cheap and aren’t bothered about it being all that nice, Hull. You can get a massive house with garden there for under £300k

Beeings · 29/10/2025 15:43

You want to be up north, Northumberland ideally. Countryside, beaches and not the daft prices of the south