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Meanings behind songs that people don't seem to know...

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Arlanymor · 28/10/2025 21:38

Do you remember the Real Fires advert with the dog kissing the cat and the cat kissing a mouse? My mum brought it up the other day as one of their neighbours has just got a dog that looks identical to the one in the advertisement. Awww!

I couldn't quite remember the song that was the soundtrack so I looked it up later... it's Will You Love Me Tomorrow by The Shirelles and I brought it up on YouTube to listen to it. It's about a one night stand isn't it? I had no idea until now... there I was thinking it was a lovely warm anthem for chaste kisses between pets!

By the way, not remotely making a judgement about the topic, I've a had a few 'Shirelles' nights of my own in the past... I just never knew what it was about before. Have you had any similar revelations?!

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RichardMarxisinnocent · 29/10/2025 18:47

RichardMarxisinnocent · 29/10/2025 18:31

Ticket to ride by the Beatles? I've just read the lyrics 3 times and can't see anything in them to suggest it means that? Surely it's just about the singer's wife/girlfriend leaving him?

The wiki page says this
While the lyrics describe a girl "riding out of the life of the narrator",[22] the inspiration of the title phrase is unclear,[6] as is the meaning of the song.[23][24] McCartney said the title referred to "a British Railways ticket to the town of Ryde on the Isle of Wight",[13] and Lennon said it described cards indicating a clean bill of health carried by Hamburg prostitutes in the 1960s.

So the inspiration for the song title might (or might not) have come from prostitutes being clear of STDs, but the whole song isn't about that.

Ticket to Ride (song) - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ticket_to_Ride_(song)#cite_note-Black/Blender-23

Uricon2 · 29/10/2025 18:46

landlordhell · 29/10/2025 17:27

I thought it was the name of the plane

Yes, the plane was called the Enola Gay

Thecarstairsitreallyhurtsmegirl · 29/10/2025 18:43

Martha reeve and the Vandellas.. Jimmy Mack .. about him being in Vietnam.
Jimmy mack ..My world's on fire .. about being in Vietnam.
Both Northern soul biggies.
Lee bates..why don't you write.
Another Vietnam one.
All of the above maybe a bit niche within Northern soul genre.

JudgeJ · 29/10/2025 18:42

JudgeJ · 29/10/2025 14:34

I recall teaching in a Catholic High School overseas, there were a number of nuns teaching and one was Head of the Sixth form. She did the sex ed talk with these 17/18 year olds, sex was allowed as long as you were married, one wit asked her if the sex had to be with the person you're married to and she almost exploded. The girls obviously thought the whole thing was hilarious, nothing about what 'sex' involved and certainly no mention of the evil contraception.

I omitted the Nun's other 'rule, once you were married sex was allowed, as long as you don't enjoy it!

usedtobeaylis · 29/10/2025 18:41

SriouslyWhutNow · 29/10/2025 01:36

What it says to me is that posters like you paid zero attention at school during drug education lessons and didn’t bother educating yourself about it all either, letting yourself and your future children down by being unable to keep them safe.

So not the “I’m so amazing and well-brought-up” look that these faux naive posters were going for. I feel the same way about adult women who pretend they don’t understand contraception. Anyone of childbearing age absolutely got told all this stuff at school multiple times and none of it should be surprising to anyone who was paying attention so they only have themselves to blame.

This is really harsh and unnecessary. Loads of us will have heard many of these songs as children and it wouldn't occur to a lot of people to interrogate the lyrics. It's no more holier than thou than not realising what The Outhere Brothers were singing about at the smash hits poll winners party.

SprayWhiteDung · 29/10/2025 18:38

Tygertiger · 29/10/2025 18:34

She’s got a ticket - ie a free pass - to “ride…”

But why does that necessarily refer to a prostitute? Surely it works just as well - and makes a lot more sense in the context of the rest of the lyrics - if it's a couple breaking up, where she's left him and she now has her freedom from exclusivity with him, so she can go and date other men?!

...In fact, maybe he was the one whom she suspected might have cheated and given her something. Even if the Ticket to Ride is referring to a clean bill of health from the GUM clinic, it might just mean that she's celebrating being free from him and hasn't got any nasties from him.

John Lennon wasn't particularly known for respecting women, so I could well see how he could blame her for him having an affair (maybe the 'Jealous Guy' was constantly accusing her of imaginary affairs on her part) and subsequently for leaving him - no doubt going off with all of her fancy men and putting it out 'like a prostitute' and (in his mind) validating all that he accused her of.

I've probably massively over-reached there in my assumptions; but just postulating a potential explanation.

usedtobeaylis · 29/10/2025 18:35

Arlanymor · 29/10/2025 00:24

Indeed - I knew what the song was about. But I had a bit of a 'mondegreen' issue with the lyrics and for quite some time thought that the bittersweet memories line was: "You've been a sweet man, Maurice." Which confused me because Kevin Costner's character in The Bodyguard was called Frank!

I am absolutely howling at this 😂

LaserPumpkin · 29/10/2025 18:35

RichardMarxisinnocent · 29/10/2025 18:31

Ticket to ride by the Beatles? I've just read the lyrics 3 times and can't see anything in them to suggest it means that? Surely it's just about the singer's wife/girlfriend leaving him?

Apparently John Lennon said it described cards indicating a clean bill of health carried by Hamburg prostitutes in the 1960s - so a Card to Shag rather than a Ticket to Ride 😉

Tygertiger · 29/10/2025 18:34

RichardMarxisinnocent · 29/10/2025 18:31

Ticket to ride by the Beatles? I've just read the lyrics 3 times and can't see anything in them to suggest it means that? Surely it's just about the singer's wife/girlfriend leaving him?

She’s got a ticket - ie a free pass - to “ride…”

AnnaQuayInTheUk · 29/10/2025 18:32

WearyAuldWumman · 29/10/2025 15:47

@JudgeJ

A couple of my uni flatmates got a talk from one of the nuns at their school. She told them that if they found any strange tablets in a big sister’s possession, they had to tell their mum or a nun.

Edited

I read that initially as a big Sister, ie a senior nun. Then I realised......

RichardMarxisinnocent · 29/10/2025 18:31

Tygertiger · 29/10/2025 17:36

Haven’t read the whole thread so apologies if it’s come up before, but Ticket To Ride isn’t quite so innocent. It’s about a working girl getting a clear bill of health from the VD clinic.

Ticket to ride by the Beatles? I've just read the lyrics 3 times and can't see anything in them to suggest it means that? Surely it's just about the singer's wife/girlfriend leaving him?

thing47 · 29/10/2025 18:27

JustMeHello · 29/10/2025 17:08

Quite a few Springsteen songs aren't quite what they first seem.

I'm always surprised when people think Dancing in the Dark is all jolly and fun and romantic - I heard it used for a wedding thing recently. It sounds fun, but it's about clinical depression and self loathing.

Yeah it was written as Bruce was coming out of a period of depression and a mini breakdown.

Do people really think Springsteen's songs are about glorifying the USA? You'd have to be pretty ignorant about the man or his music to think that. Most of them are the exact opposite, in fact, though some are more hopeful than others.

HarryVanderspeigle · 29/10/2025 18:26

I've learnt from this thread that the line is Cake by the Ocean. I always thought it was Camped by the Ocean, so a song about a nice holiday. Although I guess sex could happen in the tent as well as on the beach.

I also originally thought that Golden Brown was about autumn leaves, although was corrected in my late teens about that one.

NoMoreHotHols · 29/10/2025 18:19

RessicaJabbit · 29/10/2025 18:07

Yes, but you don't live under a rock. Don't you read?

We've been nowhere near drugs, ever..but I know about them and cultural references etc

I read. Not about drugs though. Why? Are you implying I should?

Cosyblankets · 29/10/2025 18:19

emilysquest · 29/10/2025 00:43

Oh come on @nomorehothols this isn't really the thread for your holier than thou attitude. You are not better than anyone else because you don't understand drug references in a song.

Edited

Well that was a bit rude

RaraRachael · 29/10/2025 18:15

I obviously live under a rock then as I've no idea what drug references mean.

You can't know about something if you've never heard of it.

Pistachiocake · 29/10/2025 18:14

SusanSHelit · 29/10/2025 00:03

Hey ya by outkast. Sounds like a happy bouncy bop but is actual about a relationship coming to an end. It even has the line y'all don't wanna hear me you just wanna dance

Yes, I wondered if it was a criticism of young (well, now middle-aged) people "thank god for mom and dad for sticking through together cos we don't know how", but I was more bothered when I heard the actual words for Let's get it started, especially as that was an insult that got thrown at some members of my family back then.
Chainsmokers Paris is the song that I didn't understand properly the first time I heard it.

WutheringShites86 · 29/10/2025 18:07

Betterman by Pearl Jam is not a love song, it's about Eddie Vedder's mum being trapped in an unhappy relationship with his stepfather, but I've seen so many people misinterpret the 'can't find a betterman' line!

RessicaJabbit · 29/10/2025 18:07

NoMoreHotHols · 29/10/2025 17:59

Well, I grew up in a council flat in EE, been brought up by a single mother and never been around drugs. Oh, and we didn’t have education on drugs either other than hearing about them and my mum saying ‘drugs are bad for you’. The closest I ever came was when I was 18 leaving a night club with a group of friends and someone asked if we ‘wanted stamps’ … one of the girls was completely confused as she worked for the post office and was wondering why stamps were sold on the street.
So me not knowing has f all to do with my priviliged upbringing.

Yes, but you don't live under a rock. Don't you read?

We've been nowhere near drugs, ever..but I know about them and cultural references etc

RessicaJabbit · 29/10/2025 18:02

AmIJustAnUnreasonsbleBitch · 29/10/2025 07:06

What is born in the USA about, if not exactly that?!

People think it's a patriotic song when its a criticism of America during the Vietnam war. The servicemen in the song are gung-ho Americans, thinking they're doing something patriotic for their country and just end up with their lives fucked up by a pointless war.

Run by Snow Patrol is another drugs one. Pisses me right of hearing Leona Lewis warbling it as though its some kind of love song.

Edited

Run isn't about drugs... Where did you get that idea from?

NoMoreHotHols · 29/10/2025 17:59

SriouslyWhutNow · 29/10/2025 01:36

What it says to me is that posters like you paid zero attention at school during drug education lessons and didn’t bother educating yourself about it all either, letting yourself and your future children down by being unable to keep them safe.

So not the “I’m so amazing and well-brought-up” look that these faux naive posters were going for. I feel the same way about adult women who pretend they don’t understand contraception. Anyone of childbearing age absolutely got told all this stuff at school multiple times and none of it should be surprising to anyone who was paying attention so they only have themselves to blame.

Well, I grew up in a council flat in EE, been brought up by a single mother and never been around drugs. Oh, and we didn’t have education on drugs either other than hearing about them and my mum saying ‘drugs are bad for you’. The closest I ever came was when I was 18 leaving a night club with a group of friends and someone asked if we ‘wanted stamps’ … one of the girls was completely confused as she worked for the post office and was wondering why stamps were sold on the street.
So me not knowing has f all to do with my priviliged upbringing.

exse24Londoner · 29/10/2025 17:57

zupro · 29/10/2025 06:16

Try 'turning Japanese' , you will not be disappointed

it's not about wanking

what is it about? always wondered

SchrodingersParrot · 29/10/2025 17:57

"Rock Me Gently" by Andy Kim (not so well-known now, but a favourite of student discos in the 70s) isn't actually about dancing - it's about sex.

Another disco classic from the same era was "December '63 - Oh What a Night" by Franki Valli and the Four Seasons. It wasn't until decades later, when I saw the stage show "Jersey Boys", that I realised the whole song is about loss of virginity.

Denim4ever · 29/10/2025 17:50

EyeLevelStick · 29/10/2025 15:51

Bellamy Brothers, surely?

Yes sorry, that's right

SeriaMau · 29/10/2025 17:50

AmIJustAnUnreasonsbleBitch · 29/10/2025 07:06

What is born in the USA about, if not exactly that?!

People think it's a patriotic song when its a criticism of America during the Vietnam war. The servicemen in the song are gung-ho Americans, thinking they're doing something patriotic for their country and just end up with their lives fucked up by a pointless war.

Run by Snow Patrol is another drugs one. Pisses me right of hearing Leona Lewis warbling it as though its some kind of love song.

Edited

‘I had a brother at Khe Sanh, fighting off the Viet Cong.
They're still there; he’s all gone’.
Most poignant of lyrics.

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