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Meanings behind songs that people don't seem to know...

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Arlanymor · 28/10/2025 21:38

Do you remember the Real Fires advert with the dog kissing the cat and the cat kissing a mouse? My mum brought it up the other day as one of their neighbours has just got a dog that looks identical to the one in the advertisement. Awww!

I couldn't quite remember the song that was the soundtrack so I looked it up later... it's Will You Love Me Tomorrow by The Shirelles and I brought it up on YouTube to listen to it. It's about a one night stand isn't it? I had no idea until now... there I was thinking it was a lovely warm anthem for chaste kisses between pets!

By the way, not remotely making a judgement about the topic, I've a had a few 'Shirelles' nights of my own in the past... I just never knew what it was about before. Have you had any similar revelations?!

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looselegs · 29/10/2025 10:28

Chain Reaction by Diana Ross is about sex, possibly even a threesome.....
I'm in the middle of a chain reaction
You give me all the after midnight action
I want to get you where I can let you make all that love to me
I'm on a journey for the inspiration
To anywhere and there ain't no salvation
I need you to get me nearer to you
So you can set me free
We talk about love, love, love
We talk about love
We talk about love, love, love
We talk about love
You make me tremble when your hand moves lower
You taste a little then you swallow slower
Nature has a way of yielding treasure
Pleasure made for you, oh

RaraRachael · 29/10/2025 10:28

@Kimura I thought Golden Brown was to do with autumn leaves. How could I possibly know it was about heroin if I'd never heard of it.

You may scoff but growing up in a small Scottish seaside town in the 70s was my lived experience.

Same with sex language. Again I've no idea what most of it means.

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 29/10/2025 10:27

Omg someone mentioned purple rain but didn't say what it's about !

mcmuffin22 · 29/10/2025 10:26

SouthernNights59 · 29/10/2025 04:15

I actually agree with this, and I also think some people invent "meanings" behind songs that are not there. I could write a song about my cat, it could become a hit, and there would be numerous people swearing it was about drugs. They are just pretending to be clever and , as you said, superior.

I always think this too. I think some songwriters just come up with a load of phrases that sound alright together and then pretend it has meaning when actually it just happened to rhyme (see every oasis song and over reliance on the word shiiiiiiine). I firmly believe that John Lennon just plucked words out of the air that fitted in with Macca's tunes. Most are pretty nonsensical. In fact you can see it in action on the Peter Jackson documentary from a few years ago. They all sat in a studio and randomly came up with lines to a song that sounded good. There was very little deep thought going on.

ThatBlackCat · 29/10/2025 10:26

Kimura · 29/10/2025 10:22

I can understand people not getting lyrics like "...on the ship, tied to the mast" from Golden Brown as drug references...but what did you think 'Golden Brown' was?

"The needle tears a hole" from Hurt...what did you think he was singing about, his sewing kit?

None of the ones mentioned here are particularly subtle.

I've never even heard of the song Golden Brown. But: "The needle tears a hole" from Hurt' would make me think of a girl losing her virginity/hymen. The penis being the needle. That would be my automatic first thought.

Needhelp101 · 29/10/2025 10:26

Well, I'd like to thank this thread for taking me down a music rabbit hole.

I did know about Golden Brown but, honestly, some of these others 😬

TheBewleySisters · 29/10/2025 10:25

I am very old, and in my early teens I loved the music of Tamla Motown (still do). One day after school I was sitting on our stairs singing 'Hickory Hollow's Tramp' and my mother came out of the kitchen and said, 'do you know what you are singing about'? I said no, I was just singing. She said 'well, don't sing it again'. It was only when I grew up that I realised what the song was about:

"Oh the path was deep and wide from footsteps leading to our cabin,
Above the door there hung a scarlet lamp,
And late at night a hand would knock, and there would stand a stranger,
Yes, I'm the son of Hickory Hollow's tramp'.

It's a fab song and a very compassionate tale of how prostitution was his deserted mother's only choice.

Kimura · 29/10/2025 10:22

NoMoreHotHols · 29/10/2025 00:37

With reference to the song about drugs: how were you supposed to know these were wbout drugs if you’ve never been near them and have no experience? I can only relate to things that I know of, I’m not sure how I was ‘supposed to know’. I’m pretty crap at hearing lyricw correctly as well. :-)

I can understand people not getting lyrics like "...on the ship, tied to the mast" from Golden Brown as drug references...but what did you think 'Golden Brown' was?

"The needle tears a hole" from Hurt...what did you think he was singing about, his sewing kit?

None of the ones mentioned here are particularly subtle.

WestwardHo1 · 29/10/2025 10:22

I have the type of mind that focuses only on the music and never the lyrics. SO many of these have totally passed me by 😳😂

TinyTear · 29/10/2025 10:21

I think I have a different attitude to this as I grew up in a non-English speaking country, but at 10 I was happily singing Like a Virgin

Songs were songs, I didn't pay attention to the lyrics.

And even now, I listen to Japanese music and so many of them have super dark lyrics while the song is a lovely pop song. for example - https://open.spotify.com/track/19Dk8XpEQzAdbqdIPkWuRe?si=99ca4e08625140aa

とても素敵な六月でした (feat. 宵崎奏&朝比奈まふゆ&東雲絵名&暁山瑞希&初音ミク)

25時、ナイトコードで。 · 25時、ナイトコードで。 SEKAI ALBUM vol.3 · Song · 2025

https://open.spotify.com/track/19Dk8XpEQzAdbqdIPkWuRe?si=99ca4e08625140aa

landlordhell · 29/10/2025 10:16

PixieandMe · 29/10/2025 10:15

My dad told me that when people first heard him on the radio, they assumed he was black. He was described as a white man who 'sounded black' apparently so it probably also alludes to that.

Vert clever song.

He was brought up in the south and loved the black music that was around so that’s where he got his sound. He was shocking to the pearl clutchers because he was white but sang and moved in the ‘black style’ of the time.

PixieandMe · 29/10/2025 10:15

landlordhell · 29/10/2025 09:48

Brought up on Elvis and didn’t know that. Will tell my dad later.

My dad told me that when people first heard him on the radio, they assumed he was black. He was described as a white man who 'sounded black' apparently so it probably also alludes to that.

Vert clever song.

barbismyfriend · 29/10/2025 10:13

emilysquest · 29/10/2025 00:43

Oh come on @nomorehothols this isn't really the thread for your holier than thou attitude. You are not better than anyone else because you don't understand drug references in a song.

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But I agree with them! I had no idea either, for the same reason. Not only have I never taken any drugs at all but I genuinely don’t know anyone who has! Not everyone is au fait with the seedy side of life!

ShiningforLeeBertie · 29/10/2025 10:12

Mothership4two · 29/10/2025 10:06

Tori Amos has said herself that it is about FGM, particularly in Africa, and those girls being betrayed by the women in their family, those who they most trusted, and this idea was inspired by the novel Possessing the Secret of Joy by Alice Walker.

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  • This song is based on a book by Alice Walker called Possessing The Secret Of Joy, which details the practice of female genital mutilation in areas of Africa. In an interview with NME Classic Songs, Tori recalled discussing the issue with a friend:
  • "We were talking about the fact that the women are betrayed, by a grandmother, a mother, or an older sister - that the women you trust the most are taking you into this butchery. And we had a term for those people, those girls that would turn on you, that wouldn't be there for you, that would maybe expose something you trusted them with, and really let you down - a complete wreckage. So those girls were called Cornflake Girls."
SapphireSeptember · 29/10/2025 10:11

My Heart Is Broken by Evanescence is about victims of sex trafficking.

Bring Me To Life was written after Amy met her future husband and he twigged how unhappy she was in an abusive relationship.

Lynz301 · 29/10/2025 10:11

WinterFrogs · 29/10/2025 06:17

The Winds Of Change by Scorpions. Beautiful melodies and didn't really take notice of the lyrics, to my shame ( at the time)

Also in defence of some of us older posters, some of us spent ages trying to work out lyrics of a song, by taping it from the radio, them repeatedly pressing pause/play and writing the lyrics as we heard them. If you were lucky, the lyrics would be written on the record sleeve or you'd find them in Smash Hits. It made for a few misheard lyrics and earnest discussions at school!

I was 18 when Relax came out, and my mum kept on at me wanting to know why the song was banned. I'll never know if she genuinely didn't understand, or if she was testing me. I said I had no idea.

Have you listened to the podcast about Winds of Change, by Patrick Radden Keefe? It’s all about the theory that the song was written by the CIA as part of a conspiracy - it’s really interesting!

Everanewbie · 29/10/2025 10:10

prh47bridge · 29/10/2025 09:08

Indeed. The genesis of Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds is well known. Ringo was present when Julian came home with a painting that he described as "Lucy - in the sky with diamonds" to his father. The identity of Lucy is well known (sadly, she died in 2009 at the age of 46) and the painting still exists. The Beatles have been quite open that some of their other songs were about drugs (Day Tripper, Got To Get You Into My Life, Doctor Robert and others), but they all insist that this song isn't and that the title is not a hidden reference to LSD. And yet this myth persists. Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds is NOT about taking drugs.

It did inspire the name of a early human ancestor specimen of an Australopithecus - Lucy.

landlordhell · 29/10/2025 10:08

Rosscameasdoody · 29/10/2025 10:05

There are some photos online of him before the black velvet days and hee was a sandy blond.

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Dark blonde to light brown. I loved that better.

Mothership4two · 29/10/2025 10:06

TooManyCupsAndMugs · 29/10/2025 09:25

Not what I read. Apparently the song is inspired by an Alice Walker book that deals with FGM but it is about bitchy girls and how female friendships can be betrayed.

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Tori Amos has said herself that it is about FGM, particularly in Africa, and those girls being betrayed by the women in their family, those who they most trusted, and this idea was inspired by the novel Possessing the Secret of Joy by Alice Walker.

Rosscameasdoody · 29/10/2025 10:05

Needhelp101 · 29/10/2025 09:59

Elvis was blonde?!

And yes, I am listening to Black Velvet right now.

There are some photos online of him before the black velvet days and hee was a sandy blond.

spoonbillstretford · 29/10/2025 10:03

We had drug education classes in the early 1990s but still took drugs. But were at least better informed about it!

The best class was when we had an alcoholic come to talk to us. I've never forgotten what he said about how it creeps up on you (he was a journalist) and about functioning alcoholism. Before then I'd got the impression that alcoholics were people on park benches drinking from a bottle in a paper bag.

Again it didn't stop me from drinking to excess in my teens and 20s but it did help me realise when I was drinking too much at home with work stress in my early 40s.

BunnyLake · 29/10/2025 10:03

SprayWhiteDung · 29/10/2025 09:52

I read that his dad wrote it but he (Declan/Elvis) sang it!

Yes. For some reason I thought the actor in the ad was his dad 😁

NewAgeNewMe · 29/10/2025 10:00

MagpiePi · 29/10/2025 09:12

WinterFrogs · Today 06:19
PS I was school in 70s/80s and there were no drug lessons at my school. Very little in the way of sex education too.

I was at secondary school in the 80s and we had a maths teacher who would if asked, give his A level classes detailed information about how to recognise magic mushrooms including drawing diagrams on the blackboard, and where you could find them locally. We also used to go to the pub at lunchtime with some of the teachers.

And being bought drinks by our teachers in the pub - imagine that now. And didn’t think anything was wrong with it!

Rosscameasdoody · 29/10/2025 09:59

Fluffyblackcat7 · 29/10/2025 09:17

Ok, what is Purple Rain about?

It’s about faith. It’s a vision of the end of the world and purple signifies a mix of red and blue blood in the sky. Prince was quoted as saying that the song was symbolic of a journey through difficult circumstances - the emotional and spiritual process of being with a loved one during turmoil and relying on faith to guide you through the rain.