Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Feminism sold a lie - Women, today, are worse off than ever

888 replies

ConservativeC2 · 28/10/2025 20:58

Listening to the women I work with, it's been interesting to hear their views about feminism and they are not happy. We are all millennial age so not too young, not too old and I keep hearing that it's the millennial generation of women that have absolutely lost out the most.

I think feminism initially promoted some idea of independence, equality and choice. Phrases like 'men hold all the money and power' at the time were very emotive whilst not entirely true. The correct statement then (and still now) is some men hold all the money and power. Most men back in the 50s-70s worked very long hours and spent pretty much all their money on their family. It was hard for everyone, but I think women were more empowered then than now.

In contrast to today, most of the women my age have to work. Whilst feminism promotes choice, most of them do not actually have a choice today. Most men today do not earn enough to run a household which means most women have to work. The worst part is they still do a larger share of the domestic work and childcare. So I think women now have it worse than ever - it's not just me, my female colleagues feel the same way. They've come to point in life where they want to start a family but they know they will have to come back to work.

Now it's all to do with feminism. There are other factors which has driven up the cost of living (inflation, property prices, profit extraction from multinational corporates etc).

OP posts:
AnyOtherBrightIdeas · 28/10/2025 21:08

Also working class women and mothers have always worked outside the home.

Octavia64 · 28/10/2025 21:07

When my mum started working it was completely legal to pay women less than men for doing exactly the same job.

some women had to resign their jobs when they got married.

she considered sexual harassment completely normal behaviour from the men in the office.

i don’t want it to be normal for women to be sexually harassed in the office. I don’t want women to be paid less than men for the exact same job. I don’t want women to be banned from being teachers or doctors at all, or banned from working after they are married.

being married to someone who is legally entitled to have sex with you whether you consent or not and legally entitled to keep all household money from you and your children leaving you to be cold and hungry is not a good position to be in.

i don’t want to go back to those days.

UNDERCOVERELEPHANTINTHEROOM · 28/10/2025 21:07

Yes, many women have it worse because they take on so much more responsibility now.
They went from being a housewife & mother to being a housewife & mother, contributing much more equally to the family finances, doing all of the household admin, arranging childcare, most if not all of the chores, arranging their children's social lives, while their husbands lives changed minimally by 'helping' with the chores and the children a little.
However, those women dont have to stay with those men. They have the freedom and the opportunity to leave.

WearyCat · 28/10/2025 21:07

I’m not sure why you think feminism is to blame for the cost of living? Or why you think the goal of feminists is to allow women not to have to work?

Or have I misunderstood your point?

AnyOtherBrightIdeas · 28/10/2025 21:06

This is not the revolutionary ground-breaking idea you think it is. Feminists in the 80s and 90s were already writing similarly. See also books like “I don’t know how she does it” which I categorically hate as a profoundly anti-feminist middle class whinge-fest/ humble brag.

And your way of framing women’s choice as constrained bevause the poor men’s dont earn enough to keep house needs dragging into the 21st century ;)

CoralPombear · 28/10/2025 21:06

I kind of agree. To have it all, we must do it all.

JHound · 28/10/2025 21:06

shuggles · 28/10/2025 21:03

@ConservativeC2 Phrases like 'men hold all the money and power' at the time were very emotive whilst not entirely true. The correct statement then (and still now) is some men hold all the money and power. Most men back in the 50s-70s worked very long hours and spent pretty much all their money on their family.

Anyone who hasn't worked this out by the age of about, 12, probably isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.

In contrast to today, most of the women my age have to work. Whilst feminism promotes choice, most of them do not actually have a choice today. Most men today do not earn enough to run a household which means most women have to work.

You can choose not to work. You just have to ensure that you're the 1 woman out of 100 who has a relationship with a man within the top 1% of earners.

Edited

You don’t have to be with a top 1% earner to be a SAHM.

JHound · 28/10/2025 21:05

You can also not work on a lower income. I grew up in a working class neighbourhood with a lot of SAHM and single mothers who worked.

You just have to cut your cloth accordingly.

shuggles · 28/10/2025 21:03

@ConservativeC2 Phrases like 'men hold all the money and power' at the time were very emotive whilst not entirely true. The correct statement then (and still now) is some men hold all the money and power. Most men back in the 50s-70s worked very long hours and spent pretty much all their money on their family.

Anyone who hasn't worked this out by the age of about, 12, probably isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.

In contrast to today, most of the women my age have to work. Whilst feminism promotes choice, most of them do not actually have a choice today. Most men today do not earn enough to run a household which means most women have to work.

You can choose not to work. You just have to ensure that you're the 1 woman out of 100 who has a relationship with a man within the top 1% of earners.

SideshowItchy · 28/10/2025 21:01

Sorry, but this is twaddle.

I can work, I can make choices I couldn't before.

So you have to work to afford to live, well you don't have to, you can live cheaply. You don't have to do all the housework, that's down to you.

WittyTaupeFox · 28/10/2025 21:01

I remember a female boss telling me once “we can have it all - just not all at the same time”

sounds about right 🙄

duvetday0006 · 28/10/2025 21:00

Just want to say I agree with all that you've said (also millennial). It feels impossible at times.

JHound · 28/10/2025 21:00

I have it much much much better than my female ancestors.