Why do Labour not get it?

Did you also misunderstand the point I was making?

The majority are granted asylum. So refugees, not economic migrants. And that's a fact, not an opinion.

But there fleeing for their lives.... from France!! Have a heart.

Because I dont have the space

Do you think it is right to scapegoat asylum seekers and dehumanise them?

So why were the numbers of crossings double what they are now, in 2022?

Anyone looking for a quick fix to a decades long problem is deluded.

What is it you want Starmer to do? Take up a post on the south coast with a sniper rifle?

Oh c'mon , don't be daft. No ones coming here for a tenner a week and a hotel stay. It's what the UK offers once their asylum application has been accepted - social housing, benefits, free health system...

@CorneliaCupp Do you ever read the news?
I despair at your faux naivety.

He has made a start in co-operation with Bulgaria.

Where would you propose asylum seekers are housed whilst waiting for their claim to be processed?

And 900 men together, what could go wrong.

So why were the numbers of crossings double what they are now, in 2022?

Anyone looking for a quick fix to a decades long problem is deluded.

What is it you want Starmer to do? Take up a post on the south coast with a sniper rifle?

The point is, they are allowed to seek asylum anywhere they want.

If 1% of the 20% of refugees who seek asylum anywhere other than their neighbouring country want to come to the U.K., it really isn’t the problem people seem to think it is.

If you think people are getting on boats to make a treacherous journey across the channel so they can get less than £10 quid a week and stay in a disused hotel and be fed mass produced slop, just for shits and giggles, you are fooling yourself.

So why were the numbers of crossings double what they are now, in 2022?

Anyone looking for a quick fix to a decades long problem is deluded.

What is it you want Starmer to do? Take up a post on the south coast with a sniper rifle?

I’m pretty sure smash the gangs means a reduction not this.

You’re backing Starmer and still believe it’ll change and go down. He hasn’t shifted the dial anywhere, except up.

And yes boats are bigger recently under Labour, maybe recent attempts to control that too meant crime networks went to a better source for dinghies.

For those that are saying this is Starmer’s/Labour’s fault (ok then… no comment), what do you think is the magic solution that Nigel will ride in on his horse and fix the issue with, genuinely?

• shoot all asylum seekers at dawn? No comment
• put them in concentration camps (pretty sure auschwitz etc must have cost a substantial amount of tax payers funds…)
• return them - where? How? Also see tories c2023
• make country less attractive to immigrants by reducing benefits (pretty sure those benefit claiming reform voters will love this one)
• leave the ECHR - sure, so sensible to alienate most of our trading partners and the majority of the electorate, and put our human rights into the hands of fascist maniac, but you do you
• rejoin the EU? (erm…)

Do you think he has a workable plan?

As has been said ad infinitum, they do not have to stay in France, and are free to claim asylum in any country they choose. The vast majority do so in the neighbouring country.

I think the hotels were pretty basic, it sounds like they are going to install mobile homes (or holiday camp type chalets) on the bases, most of the existing accommodation hasn't been used for years and won't be suitable, they will also have to install catering, etc. And of course a local enquiry at each location, where everyone will say they don't want it, more protests, just in different places! Not a solution just moving the problem at even greater expense. And they will still have to honour the contracts with the hotels for however many years rent and pay to undo all the modifications that were done to turn them into hostel like accommodation and then redecorate throughout, all part of the contract.

I think you are being unfair on the British people. I don't see anyone protesting about the Government reaching out to and accommodating people from Ukraine, Hong Kong or people that helped our military in Afganistan.

But there is infinite need in the world and the British people and Governments should choose our asylum priorities. It should not be survival of the fittest, first on the dinghy gets first dibs. These people (large fit young men) are not our asylum priority. They are a self selecting group of people travelling to Britain for a better life. But literally billions of people in the world would like to come to Britain for a better life.

Channel crossings are up

2025 numbers of migrants crossing are on track to be similar to 2022.

Figures for the first 6 months of 2025, were very similar to first six months of 2024, 2023 and lower than 2022.

Number of crossings is largely similar as this point in 2024 and 2023. It’s about half what it was in 2021 and 2022. It’s also the same as it was in 2020, when there were fewer migrants moving anywhere.

You have to be very careful when cherry picking any individual day, week, month, to say “crossings are up” as the number fluctuates due to so many variables. There is also a change in the number coming on each boat. Not sure why, maybe the boats are bigger, maybe they are more crowded.

The number of boats arriving went from 42 boats in 2018 to 1111 in 2022. It went down to 600-700 for the following couple of years and has largely remained constant since. The last government did nothing to solve the issue in 6 years, but Labour are expected to fix it in 18 months or they are a total failure?

Have you not seen some of these prestigious buildings? And free if charge with mesks provided.
Sound cushy to me.

Absolutely agree

Also may take away some of the concerns of large numbers of young men with nothing to do being housed in city centres.

But lets be honest many people in this country do not want to support genuine asylum seekers particularly if they are not white

Wasn’t that the idea behind Rwanda and Labour voted against it. They’re hardly going to now implement similar.

Point still stands though. They are not fleeing for their lives from France to here. Have you been? Its perfectly nice over there. You are being very melodramatic and it doesn't do your arguments any favours.

I guess we will wait for Reform to do it then as there is no way Labour will be re-elected while the number of people coming on the small boats continues to rise.