Why do Labour not get it?

Would it still be open now in this climate if it wasn't being used for this?

It might be sticking plasters for failing hotels but there's a reason they took on the contracts.

Well, then they are obviously doing it wrong.

What do you think should happen?

Where do you think they should be housed?

What extra comforts are you thinking of?
You do realise that we are talking about traumatized people fleeing for their lives, not criminals?

Hotels that were popular enough to be thriving aren’t generally used.

Also, they don’t get to use any of the facilities which make them nice, such as spas etc.

I do wish people would use their brains and realise they’re being manipulated.

If the government just let them wander off what do you think would happen? Would they even bother claiming asylum and risking deportation or would they disappear into the grey economy of cash in hand jobs and HMOs?

They are mostly resourceful young men, they've crossed continents to come here, they would probably thrive for the most part.

But once refurbished, the barracks remain a state owned asset. Under the present arrangements public money is going into the pockets of private companies, and there is nothing tangible to show for the spending. Its like the difference between paying for an extension to a home you own rather than paying a landlord rent for a bigger property. The first may be more costly, but is obviously the most beneficial way to use money.

Ex servicemen sleeping rough is a very complicated issue and mental health has a lot to do with it. Many will not engage with homeless services or adhere to the rules. They cannot be "imprisoned" unless sectioned and forced to reside in a particular place, unlike the asylum seekers.

Various charities who work with this group have spoken out about the support offered and the reasons why many are still sleeping rough despite what is available.

Oh well OP, once Reform get in they've promised to spend even more money on detention centres.

People want to see the migrants suffer. Maybe Reform can recoup some of the money by live streaming a kind of Big Brother of human misery?

I got married in the one in my area currently being used. Many are beautiful buildings externally. The one I got married in got brought by Britannia and it doesn't take very long of nothing being done to them to make it an absolute dump. The really nice hotel you talk of will have been stripped to the bare bones, extra beds crammed in for families, the facilities removed and only the very basic of upkeep. I guarantee you.

It's mainly to get them away from people isn't it? So that the locals don't have to worry about the rapey tendencies. Or those that do will be wealthier country folk who are less likely to kick off.

Can anyone explain under what law they must be housed? Don't get me wrong - I have no problem with migrants being given accommodation. I do have a problem with that imperative not applying to people who are already here. That is what is working in Reform's favour - ex-servicemen sleeping rough, but get off a boat and straight into accommodation.

Oh but they are, and they have room service, plus an a la carte menu to choose from too🙄.

What's your proposal for Labour?

Do we lump them on a ship and drop them off mid-Ocean?

Ask citizens to house them?

Lock them in sheds?

Keep them in the hotels?

Fence off some open land and just herd them in and lock the gate?

If you think that the migrants enjoy the same level of comfort that paying customers would have enjoyed in the past, you have a bad case of Farage-itis.

Also, what do you think will happen to the hotels now? Most of them would have taken up contracts to house migrants for a reason.

Finally, an ex-migrant hotel near me is now being used to use homeless people. The locals are whining about that too.

It’s not just about the money.

obviously it is partly about the money.

but people are also concerned that asylum seekers from violent countries are being housed in their communities and because of the way it works you are getting large numbers in some small communities who frankly can’t really cope with them.

if asylum seekers are housed in separate areas it’ll reduce the community tension as there will be fewer protests etc in the middle of towns and villages.

I personally would be happy for it to cost more.

i live near a few military bases and frankly I think it’s a good idea. You can provide facilities on the sites - healthcare and suchlike - and there won’t be such a clash of cultures.

I actually think this is the the first sound idea they have had. However they need to stop spending and taxing, it’s labour of old. Tax and spend, tax and spend; always the same. No one in Labour should be saying irrelevant of cost, when quite frankly it’s just about public perception in the main.

i just don’t get how it keeps happening, tories stay in power so long everyone gets fed up, labour get in, they fuck the countries economy, do one term, then the tories come back in, start trying to fix the shit show, Labour don’t get back in for another decade, and history repeats itself. Every single time.

i think it’s game over for Labour, and the budget will be the final nail in the coffin, there will be a public outcry, they are already trying to prepare the public for what’s to come with the soft leaks to see reaction, income tax increase, mansion tax etc, and there will be no way back for them, no matter what they do over the next 3 years.

Starmer will throw reeves under the bus, to save his skin, as they don’t have anyone to take over from him, so even though he’s clearly wholly incapable and out of his depth , no one wants the poison chalice other than some real hard core lefties that the public would not accept, and none of them are any more capable.

To be honest, I’m not sure even starmer wants to be pm any more, he’s just waiting to get the fuck out of there and get a lucrative consulting role.

its a shit show of epic proportions, the issue is they fucked the economy so hard and so fast and now don’t know how to fix it, so everything they do makes it worse as they are utterly clueless.

Well it is too bad then. Those people complaining about it, and those wasting time standing outside hotels, braying, cannot have it both ways. They do not want the people there, so other solutions have to be considered. If those solutions cost more, then so be it.

people moan at everything and are completely unaware of the practicalities of solutions

you don’t want any migrants , legal or not - we hear that loud and clear - but we need legal migrants and we don’t turn away those most in need and you can’t send them back - you mean build more and more big boats that just flap around between France and Britain as we each send them back to each other ? Or you mean hang on to them long enough to work out where “back” is - oh but then we need somewhere to put them.. back at square 1 .

But they’re stripped bare by the hotel before being let to migrants. Do people seriously think there are migrants having a spa each day and enjoying the swimming pool / gym. It’s not going to have luxury soft furnishings and plush bath robes either.

The hotel down the road that’s been used by the Home Office for a few years used to be very nice. But it’s on a very big busy road with nothing near it so the men tend to walk to the villages because they’re bored rigid and it’s not been great for anyone, them or the villages.

Then leave it to the charities encouraging them here to house them. Perhaps they could ask their donors to give up a bedroom.

The one in the next town to my daughters village was a popular wedding venue, until it housed migrants and was very expensive.

Especially when these private companies are cashing in on the illegal migrant crisis by closing to the public and then charging the tax payer via the government inflated fees. I don’t think anyone should be making a profit off this and us.