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Why do Labour not get it?

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Dacatspjs · 28/10/2025 12:30

It's being reported today that Labour want to stop using hotels and move migrants into barracks. Fine. But when quizzed on it Luke Pollard has suggested this will be more expensive, but the public want the hotels to close at all costs so it will be worth it.

This to me just seems like another step forward for Reform. The public who care about this, care about how much the government is spending on migrant housing. A new policy that costs more isn't going to go anyway towards solving this problem.

I don't know what the solution is, but spending more money getting mothballed barracks up to spec seems ludicrous.

"Asked about whether it would cost more to house migrants at military bases than in hotels, Mr Pollard insisted that 'the public want to see those hotels close'.

But he added: 'We're looking at what's possible and, in some cases, those bases may be a different cost to hotels, but I think we need to reflect the public mood on this asylum hotels need to close.'"

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PandoraSocks · 28/10/2025 13:31

Whammyammy · 28/10/2025 13:20

"Many have tried to imply this is about immigration, but these are the choices of one man, not an ethnic group"

Do you agree?

lazyarse123 · 28/10/2025 13:31

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 13:26

I'm glad she is ok, must have been terrifying.
Iive in an area where sadly I wouldn't be surprised if one of my neighbours was doing just that, and anyone who does should obviously be arrested. My point is that we can't lock up people who haven't broken the law on the off chance that they might.

I'm not trying to be argumentative but the fact is the way they arrive here is a crime and until we know who they are and where they're from we should be able to detain them.
Obviously they should have food, shelter and all basic human rights except freedom of movement until they are processed.

ForestBath · 28/10/2025 13:30

ScholesPanda · 28/10/2025 13:26

Maybe they should knock down all the buildings in these barracks and they could live in rows of tents? No hot water, just a cold standpipe for every 50 people. Food every other day.

Basic enough for you yet?

Oh please stop with the hyperbole. Who is suggesting that? However I would readily support the hotels to be repurposed for the homeless population - like we did during covid. I don't think they'd be moaning about staying in a previously rated 4 star hotel or not having their choice of biscuit

TheDenimPoet · 28/10/2025 13:30

24karatPalamino · 28/10/2025 12:38

I agree. We should be offering the bare minimum. There should be no incentive other than safety, for coming to the UK on a small boat. Getting rid of all the extra comforts is a sensible direction.

Surely safety, particularly when you consider the countries these people are coming from, is THE greatest incentive? I don't think any of these people are making dangerous journeys for a daily breakfast buffet.

JeminaTheGiantBear · 28/10/2025 13:29

They’ve probably done some sort of focus group testing which was more favourable to this than not. That’s why.

The important thing to realise is that no one on the Labour front bench cares about actually changing anything - on this or any other issue- or achieving anything. That is completely irrelevant. The only thing that matters to them is whether doing a particular thing might enable them to carry on enjoying the salary & benefits that come with office.

Actual effectiveness, cost savings, benefit to the public, etc, are all completely irrelevant.

24karatPalamino · 28/10/2025 13:29

ScholesPanda · 28/10/2025 13:26

Maybe they should knock down all the buildings in these barracks and they could live in rows of tents? No hot water, just a cold standpipe for every 50 people. Food every other day.

Basic enough for you yet?

Well, if that was advertised on TikTok, I’m pretty sure the boats would stop.

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 13:29

ForestBath · 28/10/2025 13:27

Why the use of quotation marks? Are they not ' ours' to help? How would you secure employment without an address?

I used quotation marks because I was quoting directly from the post.
I also know plenty of homeless people that do work, so it is very possible.
Homeless people are not well served in this country at all, but that's another thread!

80smonster · 28/10/2025 13:27

Never heard the word cushy applied to living in a one horse town Premier Inn, but there you go.

HostaCentral · 28/10/2025 13:27

It's interesting that in opposition Labour, both Keir Starmer and Yvette Cooper specifically, we're against housing asylum seekers in these types of accomodations.

ForestBath · 28/10/2025 13:27

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 13:22

'Our homeless' are not prevented by law from working and supporting themselves, asylum seekers are.
That's the difference.

Why the use of quotation marks? Are they not ' ours' to help? How would you secure employment without an address?

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 13:27

24karatPalamino · 28/10/2025 13:26

Can’t do anything about those can we. But sometimes (such as in the case of asylum seekers) we should have a choice.

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So we should lock some innocent people up, but not others?

Whammyammy · 28/10/2025 13:26

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 13:20

Do you know the criminal histories and backgrounds of your neighbours? Should they be locked up a s well?

Well I know most of them very well. No criminals, they respect the laws of our society too.

ScholesPanda · 28/10/2025 13:26

ForestBath · 28/10/2025 13:20

Absolutely. I find posts like this one laughable. And they have the cheek to say we're the ones being manipulated! Frankly I couldn't care less that the nice fluffy, feather pillows have been removed and the spa has been shut - they're still offering a warm bed, washing facilities and hot meals, things our homeless don't receive. The only people being played are the lefty liberals and their luxury politics.

Maybe they should knock down all the buildings in these barracks and they could live in rows of tents? No hot water, just a cold standpipe for every 50 people. Food every other day.

Basic enough for you yet?

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 13:26

lazyarse123 · 28/10/2025 13:24

Don't know about your neighbours but mine aren't following children round near schools and yes that happens it happened to my friends 14 year old granddaughter. She was terrified and fortunately a neighbour saw him and escorted her home.

I'm glad she is ok, must have been terrifying.
Iive in an area where sadly I wouldn't be surprised if one of my neighbours was doing just that, and anyone who does should obviously be arrested. My point is that we can't lock up people who haven't broken the law on the off chance that they might.

PandoraSocks · 28/10/2025 13:26

Thanks. That makes a lot more sense. It says he was fleeing Libya because his family was pro-Gaddafi, rather than he was fleeing Gaddafi as per pp.

"Zouari came to the UK illegally in 2022 from Libya, where he said he faced a lot of political trouble, particularly because his family were pro-Gaddafi - the brutal totalitarian former leader who committed serious human rights violations and supported terrorism"

All in all, he sounds a right charmer.

24karatPalamino · 28/10/2025 13:26

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 13:20

Do you know the criminal histories and backgrounds of your neighbours? Should they be locked up a s well?

Can’t do anything about those can we. But sometimes (such as in the case of asylum seekers) we should have a choice.

lazyarse123 · 28/10/2025 13:24

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 13:20

Do you know the criminal histories and backgrounds of your neighbours? Should they be locked up a s well?

Don't know about your neighbours but mine aren't following children round near schools and yes that happens it happened to my friends 14 year old granddaughter. She was terrified and fortunately a neighbour saw him and escorted her home.

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 13:22

ForestBath · 28/10/2025 13:20

Absolutely. I find posts like this one laughable. And they have the cheek to say we're the ones being manipulated! Frankly I couldn't care less that the nice fluffy, feather pillows have been removed and the spa has been shut - they're still offering a warm bed, washing facilities and hot meals, things our homeless don't receive. The only people being played are the lefty liberals and their luxury politics.

'Our homeless' are not prevented by law from working and supporting themselves, asylum seekers are.
That's the difference.

sunflower1022 · 28/10/2025 13:22

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 13:20

Do you know the criminal histories and backgrounds of your neighbours? Should they be locked up a s well?

I can’t argue with this level of stupidity, I really can’t.

Sorry, I have to leave this thread because I am so angry and if I were to write what I want to write I’d get banned.

patooties · 28/10/2025 13:21

aslkdfjh · 28/10/2025 12:35

The hotels are not ‘cushy’ but currently the public appears to falling for the bullshit that asylum seekers are living it up in 4* hotels with all the trappings.

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ForestBath · 28/10/2025 13:20

BrightSpark10 · 28/10/2025 13:04

Do you travel? Have you ever been to Africa?
If not, I strongly recommend watching some travel documentaries or YouTube channels featuring people backpacking through Africa. These videos often show people live for real, not the touristy, developed parts.
The man who was recently sentenced is from Ethiopia. Go online and take a look at how people live there not in the capital, but in the small, remote villages.

The accommodation in the UK might not seem to us as luxurious by European standards, but for many people crossing, such hotels represent incredible comfort. For them basics such as having clean, warm water to wash with whenever you want and for how long you want, regular meals, and even the allowance they get, all provided for free. From their perspective, that’s not hardship at all it’s a remarkably comfortable situation.

Absolutely. I find posts like this one laughable. And they have the cheek to say we're the ones being manipulated! Frankly I couldn't care less that the nice fluffy, feather pillows have been removed and the spa has been shut - they're still offering a warm bed, washing facilities and hot meals, things our homeless don't receive. The only people being played are the lefty liberals and their luxury politics.

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 13:20

sunflower1022 · 28/10/2025 13:19

Oh for God’s sake, we don’t know who these people are!!!

It’s not being ‘racist’ or anything akin to Nazi Germany, it’s applying some bloody common sense!!

Do you know the criminal histories and backgrounds of your neighbours? Should they be locked up a s well?

sunflower1022 · 28/10/2025 13:19

PandoraSocks · 28/10/2025 13:09

But apparently they're not going to be confined to barracks. Some human rights shit being trotted out

So you'd want them to be imprisoned, even though they have committed no crime? That rings a bell...

Oh for God’s sake, we don’t know who these people are!!!

It’s not being ‘racist’ or anything akin to Nazi Germany, it’s applying some bloody common sense!!

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