Why do Labour not get it?

I understand that.

However, I’m afraid that just because technically they become an asylum seeker when they claim asylum, doesn’t for quite a lot of us suddenly make us forget how they came to the country.

As far as I’m concerned, I don’t trust people who pay people smugglers thousands to enter a country illegally.

We have Sarah's Law, also anyone convicted of a sexually related offence is subject to an order where they must notify police of their address.

So yes, there is information available.

As for locked up, I don't know, sometimes I think the twat who plays Heart Radio in their garden ought to be, but that's a story for another day.

So you'll be happy for the barracks to be used then?

Exactly. They are warm, safe and fed. A lot more than some.

Cushy hotels? Don’t make me laugh. Our local asylum seeker hotel was previously a laughing stock due to the poor nature of its reviews. Non existent heating in winter. Black mould. Ill fitting windows. It certainly wasn’t deemed good enough to stay in for a few days break, let alone years whilst awaiting the legal process to do its thing.

If you think people are removing themselves voluntarily from a multitude of countries around the world to sit in a hotel in England with no right to work and a few quit a week in their pockets you are very much mistaken. Educate yourself. Think. Just a little bit.

Is he?

https://freemovement.org.uk/briefing-the-sorry-state-of-the-uk-asylum-system/

All of this

Is it short vs long term costs?

The initially short term the barraks will need doing up and serious money being spent - long term government owns the land so long term the running costs are less?

I don't think this is an issue that will have any kind of quick resolution regardlesss of who is in power.

Hotels - spread the people around but is widley unpopular - barraks well larger numbers could be worse for areas affected.

Ideally I'd what is a legal means of immigration in/near problem parts of the world, a serious crack down on the criminal gangs involved in the small boat and a much quicker efficient asylum system all round - so those who can stay get process quickly and get working and paying tax and use any skills they have - and rest get deported very quickly. All of which would take money and serious poltical will.

I think it would be better if all the political parties stopped pretending this is a short term fixable problem they can sort and actually level with UK public - this is the reality this is how the world is - so we need to stump up the cash and get processes in so we get as much benefit and incur as litttle damage as possibe and get an efficent and quick process in place.

Starmer is the problem.

Maybe that would be better than whats happening now, I don't know really.

I was just looking through some old photos and there were a few of me and my husband with my sister, BIL and little niece and nephew at the Christmas market in the town in Germany where I’m originally from, back in 2013 (I now live in the UK).

There have been several towns and cities that have cancelled their markets for this year.

I am so fucking sick of all this shit.

Do you include women and children in this?

https://www.counterfire.org/article/migrants-in-hotels-the-facts-not-the-myths/
Migrants in Hotels. The Facts, Not the Myths

I haven't called anyone a racist.
My point is that we don't know the criminal background or history of 99% of people we interact with every day. We also know that the vast majority of asylum seekers are not criminals. So why would we lock them all up because a small proportion have committed a crime, when we wouldn't do that with any other group?

Absolutely agree

Also may take away some of the concerns of large numbers of young men with nothing to do being housed in city centres.

But lets be honest many people in this country do not want to support genuine asylum seekers particularly if they are not white

Here is Rylan being fact checked over the 4* hotel claim

https://www.bigissue.com/news/social-justice/rylan-asylum-seekers-claim/

Yes they also need support from the NHS and social care which are in crisis too. Putting more strain on all these services really isn't going to help though.

Their method of getting to the country may be unlawful, but once they step foot on British soil and claim asylum the are not committing any crime. If the government put more.money into speeding up the asylum process then none of this would be an issue!

I'm suggesting it. And further down people are agreeing with me that it would put migrants off coming.

PPs are making the point that things like hot running water don't exist in rural areas of some countries, so migrants see it as luxury.

So it becomes a matter of how low are we willing to go. That's not hyperbole, it's reality.

Part of the solution is processing asylum claims quicker so people don't have to be housed here for as long. It all costs money. It's an intransigent problem created by the Conservatives.

Reform apparently have all the easy and cheap solutions though that no-one ever thought of or tried before because obviously they are so much smarter and more experienced than any other politicians and will have a magic money tree available to them which would not be available to any other party. So yeah, crack on, I'm sure it will be fine and just as good as Farage's other grand plan to leave the EU which is going so well.

Like France do?

@CorneliaCupp - but if these neighbours travelled abroad they would pass through passport control and have security checks. People - men - are coming here and we have no idea who they are . They may well be fleeing for their lives - because they are wanted criminals in their country of origin. It is ludicrous to have people wandering around who may range from petty criminals to dangerous sexual predators or murderers. We have no clue. But let’s put them up and let them wander the streets and anyone who expresses any disquiet is a racist, eh?

Two separate, but overlapping issues. I've worked with homeless people in my local city, in many cases giving them accommodation is insufficient without a wrap around package of support. As with everything, rising costs and lack of funding are the problem.

If you enter a country on a boat illegally, then you have just committed a crime. I’d like to know more about you before I invite you freely into my home. Particularly if you have discarded your documentation.

If you are my neighbour and you are a criminal, I’d like you locked up. But if you are just my neighbour and haven’t broken the law, then I have no reason to want that.

But many homeless people suffer from mental health issues and have been failed by the nhs, they are disproportionately care leavers who have been failed by the care system, often suffering abuse in care. Also homelessness has risen because of the extortionate cost of housing and the shortage of social housing. You're average homeless person can't just pop off and get a nice job and afford a house, which is why they are homeless. There are so many people already in this country who are in desperate need, we should start helping them. Letting in a bunch of people who will need housing when we have a housing crisis doesn't seem to be a very good idea.