Why do Labour not get it?

A bed and 3 meals a day for free is a lot more than many in this country get😡

Labour do get it and are wilfully ignoring the public position on this. We want the boats stopped and the thousands of unknown men returned to France and then their countries of origin. We don't want them here at all, but if they are, we certainly don't want men being free to wander and attack women.

He has made a start in co-operation with Bulgaria.

Where would you propose asylum seekers are housed whilst waiting for their claim to be processed?

And 900 men together, what could go wrong.

Immigration is not the same a seeking asylum.

You are comparing apples with pears. But you never know, Trump might start offering refuge to more white people like he did with South Aficans.

You say you wouldn't choose the boat crossing, others however are desperate enough to risk it.

When they say barracks, they don't mean rows of mizzen huts, they mean no longer used army accommodation, family homes, single peoples quarters, etc. The problem is much of that accommodation is no longer fit for human habitation so will have to be renovated or they will put up chalet type accommodation. It's not about locking people up or punishing them, it's just removing the problem from the public eye. And moving the protests from a hotel near you to an army base near someone else. All at a huge additional cost, A really great plan!

What ‘rigorous checks’ out of interest?

But not for the asylum seekers themselves, who go through pretty rigorous checks on their arrival in the UK.
Would the same rules apply to children?

I thought Starmer had said what he’d do, smash the gangs.

No they can leave as they like.

yanbu op 900 or so men, bored and in barracks will come back to bite Labour

They would only be in prison until an identity was established. I think that’s both safe and fair for the native population.

To be honest, that’s irrelevant. Quite frankly I wish I could live in the States. I’d give my right arm to reside in Florida. But unfortunately I don’t have the means or opportunity to move there. And I loathe it here, although granted I’m relatively safe.

I turned up on a boat then I probably wouldn’t make it to the shore. And neither would I expect to.

Ultimately there isn't a cheap fix, so housing and educating them within the barracks sounds like a good idea.

Of course we need to work out cost-effective procurement, but it's more likely that whichever government we put in charge of this, they'll excellent at purchasing the most expensive services; and citizens will continue to be appalled at the costs.

I do agree we need to process them quickly and get them into employment- another thing all governments have/are failing to do.

I would argue that it doesn't harm no one, it harms the people that are imprisoned and have done nothing wrong.

Not wandering around?!
OUTRAGEOUS behaviour!

‘All this shit’ is going to only get worse as climate change ramps up and we see mass migration globally.

I honestly believe we will get to a point where we will be letting people drown.

For those that are saying this is Starmer’s/Labour’s fault (ok then… no comment), what do you think is the magic solution that Nigel will ride in on his horse and fix the issue with, genuinely?

• shoot all asylum seekers at dawn? No comment
• put them in concentration camps (pretty sure auschwitz etc must have cost a substantial amount of tax payers funds…)
• return them - where? How? Also see tories c2023
• make country less attractive to immigrants by reducing benefits (pretty sure those benefit claiming reform voters will love this one)
• leave the ECHR - sure, so sensible to alienate most of our trading partners and the majority of the electorate, and put our human rights into the hands of fascist maniac, but you do you
• rejoin the EU? (erm…)

Do you think he has a workable plan?

To be fair it is very easy to say you wouldn't the same in their position from a safe place.

People don't risk their lives for fun.

For the majority of refugees the only way to reach the UK is by small boat, they can't claim asylum until they are on UK soil.

And the majority of refugees stay close to their home country.

I think the hotels were pretty basic, it sounds like they are going to install mobile homes (or holiday camp type chalets) on the bases, most of the existing accommodation hasn't been used for years and won't be suitable, they will also have to install catering, etc. And of course a local enquiry at each location, where everyone will say they don't want it, more protests, just in different places! Not a solution just moving the problem at even greater expense. And they will still have to honour the contracts with the hotels for however many years rent and pay to undo all the modifications that were done to turn them into hostel like accommodation and then redecorate throughout, all part of the contract.

You mean the far-right, self styled "migrant auditors".

https://www.cps.gov.uk/cps/news/updated-man-convicted-distributing-recording-intending-stir-racial-hatred

The problem with that take is that, if we detain illegal migrants in barracks until we establish their identity, then it harms no one. If the migrants don’t like that treatment then they can choose to go home or not come here in the first instance. I’m not advocating for poor treatment whilst detained. Food, water, warmth all included.

But, when we do it your way, people especially women and girls are the people who pay the price. Even if it’s just a handful of those migrants carrying out heinous crimes, actual, innocent people, sometimes children, suffer.

But it's not always desperation is it? The Epping resident who was accidently released is very very keen to be deported. Can't be that bad. Many of these hotel occupants are people who have come from countries like Egypt - there's no war or genocide there as far as I know, it is a holiday destination. Absolutely I believe there should be refuge and safe passage for people who need it, but let's not pretend a proportion of these people are not opportunists or adventurers. Particularly the young males with no women or children, if conditions in their home countries are that appalling and the most vulnerable are left behind in them, then why is your argument not that we need to intervene in these countries. To say that conditions are so intolerable and inhumane that we need to accept unlimited migration from them is an argument for empire.

And I respect that opinion.
I feel that people who were living in such a desperate situation that paying a people smuggler thousands of pounds and risking your life to get to the UK should be treated with compassion and care, not criminalised. Not to mention those who were trafficked.

Streamers who visit them and then get arrested

I think that the news has done an incredible job on the "stop the boats" campaign, distracting people from actual issues with the UK economy.

The spend on Migrants is minimal in the grand scheme of the budget. Last year the cost was £2.8 billion, compared health £193.3 billion, education £89.2 billion and defence £37.6 billion.

I feel so unbelievably sorry for anybody who is desperate enough to cross the English channel on a dingy. The rhetoric that they're all living it up in hotels is so unbelievably inaccurate.

Also, nobody seems to realise the increase in the amount of boats arriving is directly related to Brexit. So not only did Farage LIE to the entire country during the Brexit campaign about the benefits of leaving the EU, all that happened was that things got much much worse, while simultaneously using the sh!t storm as fodder for his new Reform Campaign.