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Why do Labour not get it?

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Dacatspjs · 28/10/2025 12:30

It's being reported today that Labour want to stop using hotels and move migrants into barracks. Fine. But when quizzed on it Luke Pollard has suggested this will be more expensive, but the public want the hotels to close at all costs so it will be worth it.

This to me just seems like another step forward for Reform. The public who care about this, care about how much the government is spending on migrant housing. A new policy that costs more isn't going to go anyway towards solving this problem.

I don't know what the solution is, but spending more money getting mothballed barracks up to spec seems ludicrous.

"Asked about whether it would cost more to house migrants at military bases than in hotels, Mr Pollard insisted that 'the public want to see those hotels close'.

But he added: 'We're looking at what's possible and, in some cases, those bases may be a different cost to hotels, but I think we need to reflect the public mood on this asylum hotels need to close.'"

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DuncinToffee · 28/10/2025 18:34

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 28/10/2025 18:30

I thought I did.

I suggested kindhearted Lady Bountifuls could take then in. But you didn't want them.

Oh sorry, you said you had no space.

And there is me thinking we had a serious discussion.

Which party do you think can solve the broken asylum system and stop the boats?

OnlyOnAFriday · 28/10/2025 18:33

Viviennemary · 28/10/2025 18:26

No I think being housed in barracks could be a deterrent rather than being housed in luxury in hotels. And out of the community where they are a threat.

They’re just moved to another community. Barracks may often be rural (not all) but there are still villages in walking distance. Bored large groups of men milling around very small villages.

im not saying that one community should have them over another btw but just that there’s always someone affected.

and the rural barracks near me when they were talking about using it there was talk of a free minibus shuttle bus service. I remember as a friend lives 50yds from the barracks and I laughed saying at least she could have a free bus into town!

TheNuthatch · 28/10/2025 18:32

RaraRachael · 28/10/2025 18:27

The Inverness barracks is in the centre of town.

I've just read that they are planning to house 300 men there. They will be free to come and go as they please. Madness.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 28/10/2025 18:30

DuncinToffee · 28/10/2025 18:26

Who says I don't?

You said you don't want tax payers's money to go on asylum seekers, so besides suggesting I pay for it, how do you suggest we deal with asylum seekers?

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I thought I did.

I suggested kindhearted Lady Bountifuls could take then in. But you didn't want them.

Oh sorry, you said you had no space.

EasternStandard · 28/10/2025 18:29

RaraRachael · 28/10/2025 18:27

The Inverness barracks is in the centre of town.

This isn’t going to work. What a mad idea to go with.

RaraRachael · 28/10/2025 18:27

Viviennemary · 28/10/2025 18:26

No I think being housed in barracks could be a deterrent rather than being housed in luxury in hotels. And out of the community where they are a threat.

The Inverness barracks is in the centre of town.

Viviennemary · 28/10/2025 18:26

No I think being housed in barracks could be a deterrent rather than being housed in luxury in hotels. And out of the community where they are a threat.

DuncinToffee · 28/10/2025 18:26

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 28/10/2025 18:22

No, you can opt in to pay additional tax to support the cause.

Simple.

Who says I don't?

You said you don't want tax payers's money to go on asylum seekers, so besides suggesting I pay for it, how do you suggest we deal with asylum seekers?

RaraRachael · 28/10/2025 18:26

CoffeeCantata · 28/10/2025 17:55

This is absolutely right. Yes - they shouldn’t be free to wander around until their application has been approved. It’s common sense really. If they’re unsuccessful it’s also easier to ensure they don’t just disappear.

On our local news tonight it was stated that they would be free to come and go.
Highland Council were not consulted about it at all but were told yesterday that it would be happening.

EasternStandard · 28/10/2025 18:23

sunflower1022 · 28/10/2025 18:22

…culturally young men are valued over women…

Yep, we definitely need more of that!

Fair point.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 28/10/2025 18:23

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 28/10/2025 18:22

No, you can opt in to pay additional tax to support the cause.

Simple.

Would you?

sunflower1022 · 28/10/2025 18:22

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 18:20

Lots of reasons. It's a very dangerous trip to make, culturally young men are valued over women, and so would be the ones to make the trip, many families can only afford for one person to make the trip, so prioritise their sons, more humanitarian routes tend to prioritise women and children, so young men have less choices ...

…culturally young men are valued over women…

Yep, we definitely need more of that!

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 28/10/2025 18:22

DuncinToffee · 28/10/2025 18:20

I am, my taxes pay for many thing in society.

How will you opt out?

No, you can opt in to pay additional tax to support the cause.

Simple.

DuncinToffee · 28/10/2025 18:21

Julen7 · 28/10/2025 18:06

But you are so much wanting to help!

Are you opting out of paying tax?

DuncinToffee · 28/10/2025 18:20

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 28/10/2025 17:55

I thought you were happy to do it?

I am, my taxes pay for many thing in society.

How will you opt out?

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 18:20

TheLizardQueen · 28/10/2025 18:16

Then why is it mostly young men? Where are their women and children?

Lots of reasons. It's a very dangerous trip to make, culturally young men are valued over women, and so would be the ones to make the trip, many families can only afford for one person to make the trip, so prioritise their sons, more humanitarian routes tend to prioritise women and children, so young men have less choices ...

TheLizardQueen · 28/10/2025 18:16

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 12:59

What extra comforts are you thinking of?
You do realise that we are talking about traumatized people fleeing for their lives, not criminals?

Then why is it mostly young men? Where are their women and children?

TheLizardQueen · 28/10/2025 18:14

It’s such a shame that we can’t use the army barracks for ex vets and our own homeless.

TheLizardQueen · 28/10/2025 18:12

Dacatspjs · 28/10/2025 12:47

Id expect because they are long abandoned sites which will require renovation.

They are not long abandoned lol, I work at another army barracks camp (not Cameron Bks) and I can assure you they are very much being used every day by both soldiers and civvies. I’d be fuming if they moved migrants into my workplace.

Julen7 · 28/10/2025 18:06

DuncinToffee · 28/10/2025 17:39

Just me?

How would that work? My taxes go towards housing and feeding asylum seekers but yours don't?

But you are so much wanting to help!

Whammyammy · 28/10/2025 17:58

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 28/10/2025 17:55

I thought you were happy to do it?

All talk and no walk.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 28/10/2025 17:56

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 28/10/2025 17:55

I thought you were happy to do it?

Or aren't you?

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 28/10/2025 17:55

DuncinToffee · 28/10/2025 17:39

Just me?

How would that work? My taxes go towards housing and feeding asylum seekers but yours don't?

I thought you were happy to do it?

CoffeeCantata · 28/10/2025 17:55

Whatifitallgoesright · 28/10/2025 12:39

I thought the point of army barracks was so they could be securely contained. I assume they will be locked in there and not have minibuses laid on to deposit them at the nearest town to wander round at will all day.

This is absolutely right. Yes - they shouldn’t be free to wander around until their application has been approved. It’s common sense really. If they’re unsuccessful it’s also easier to ensure they don’t just disappear.

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 17:54

OnlyOnAFriday · 28/10/2025 17:49

Agree with this and the fact I don’t think these countries necessarily have a robust DBS type scheme.

The whole thing is a mess. I don’t want genuine asylum seekers turned away but such genuine ones are surely a small percentage of the people who are coming here. I am fed up that so much money is being spent. I am worried about the small number of asylum seekers who are committing horrific crimes and making our communities less safe. I’m worried where this is all going to end as it seems to be spiralling. Labour do need to get a grip on this urgently but then the Tories didn’t either.

From what I can see, about half of people who claim asylum are granted it. For those who arrive by small boats, the rate is 66%.