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Why do Labour not get it?

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Dacatspjs · 28/10/2025 12:30

It's being reported today that Labour want to stop using hotels and move migrants into barracks. Fine. But when quizzed on it Luke Pollard has suggested this will be more expensive, but the public want the hotels to close at all costs so it will be worth it.

This to me just seems like another step forward for Reform. The public who care about this, care about how much the government is spending on migrant housing. A new policy that costs more isn't going to go anyway towards solving this problem.

I don't know what the solution is, but spending more money getting mothballed barracks up to spec seems ludicrous.

"Asked about whether it would cost more to house migrants at military bases than in hotels, Mr Pollard insisted that 'the public want to see those hotels close'.

But he added: 'We're looking at what's possible and, in some cases, those bases may be a different cost to hotels, but I think we need to reflect the public mood on this asylum hotels need to close.'"

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Chinsupmeloves · 03/11/2025 21:01

FenceBooksCycle · 31/10/2025 10:08

You do realise that they won't have access to the pool and spa and that the double room you were going to share with your DH will be a lot less comfy when it contains 4 unrelated people on put-u-up beds, dormitory-style. They are not getting the lovely high quality bedding either. The only bit of "luxury" that will remain from.the experience you would have had is that the wallpaper won't be changed.

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It al depends which hotels and if they cater for 3 meals a day.

Chinsupmeloves · 03/11/2025 21:00

I'm sure barracks will cost a lot less than hotels?

suburburban · 03/11/2025 20:58

notnorman · 03/11/2025 20:42

It is sickening. I’ve said on here before (I got reported for it and it was removed)
that the poor housekeeping manager had just had enough in one of the hotels. Women weren’t allowed up on the top floor because it was too dangerous. He couldn’t keep up with repainting the walls that were constantly being graffitied with Arabic words/sentences. One man had threw the remote at the tv and smashed it- twice- and they had replaced it with a new tv both times. Not a crappy thing- a brand new out the box hotel tv both times.

I’ve got kids in their 20s and I despair at the country they are growing up in.

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Those people should be asked to leave the hotel and the UK as far as I am concerned

notnorman · 03/11/2025 20:44

(Ps- to state that they’re in unhygienic conditions is 100% not true- as our job role is to maintain a particular type of hygiene in every room)

notnorman · 03/11/2025 20:42

marshmallowmix · 02/11/2025 13:52

Exactly ! So many apologists on here …it’s sickening.

Things are now at breaking point I’d say.

They are videos taken and circulated of an asylum hotel in Derby and all asylum seekers pictured at meal times huge platefuls, plates piled up salads, fresh fruits …the works. These so called asylum seekers are laughing at us….soft touch U.K.

Meanwhile people here working and battling with a COL crisis and can’t feed themselves and their children, food banks can’t keep up …people can’t manage …it’s real!

Sickening that the government prioritises unknowns.

So many people are so disappointed and disillusioned…every day more bad news …the stays quo is not working.

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It is sickening. I’ve said on here before (I got reported for it and it was removed)
that the poor housekeeping manager had just had enough in one of the hotels. Women weren’t allowed up on the top floor because it was too dangerous. He couldn’t keep up with repainting the walls that were constantly being graffitied with Arabic words/sentences. One man had threw the remote at the tv and smashed it- twice- and they had replaced it with a new tv both times. Not a crappy thing- a brand new out the box hotel tv both times.

I’ve got kids in their 20s and I despair at the country they are growing up in.

marshmallowmix · 03/11/2025 11:47

There was a father of 4 girls talking on the radio this morning and he was very, very scared and worried at the prospect of 600 unchecked men moving into their very small village of Crowborough.

Callers were asked okay where then ....and the overwhelming answer is somewhere remote away from communities, in tents if need be.

scorpiogirly · 02/11/2025 22:51

They get jt alright. It's all planned.

HurrahWuff · 02/11/2025 22:29

My friend lives within half a mile of two hotels, one with just males and one with families.
Groups of men hang around at the local park, which is intimidating if you’re a lone female with small children in tow.
And the NCA arrested a paedophile from the hotel with families on the 17th October and apparently nobody was told (police, mp, local councillors etc) I certainly didn’t see anything in the MSM.

marshmallowmix · 02/11/2025 13:52

notnorman · 01/11/2025 21:43

I’ve said before on here- my company works in hotels used by migrants. What you have said here is not true in my experience. Have you been in any of these hotels or are you just imagining this to be the case?
The hotels are given money to look after the men so they are actually given (for eg) new mattresses. They aren’t in camp beds 4 to a room. The rooms stay in their own figurations in the ‘upmarket’ hotel chain we work in. They have meals cooked for them that are spicy/currys.
The rooms are hygienic- they have to be. Remember the Bibby Stockholm thing? The bathroom en suites exist- the same as they did before! This is the same up and down the country.

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Exactly ! So many apologists on here …it’s sickening.

Things are now at breaking point I’d say.

They are videos taken and circulated of an asylum hotel in Derby and all asylum seekers pictured at meal times huge platefuls, plates piled up salads, fresh fruits …the works. These so called asylum seekers are laughing at us….soft touch U.K.

Meanwhile people here working and battling with a COL crisis and can’t feed themselves and their children, food banks can’t keep up …people can’t manage …it’s real!

Sickening that the government prioritises unknowns.

So many people are so disappointed and disillusioned…every day more bad news …the stays quo is not working.

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 02/11/2025 10:46

MrsSkylerWhite · 28/10/2025 20:53

Why do so, so many people still not understand that simple fact?

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I didn’t say it was illegal to claim asylum though, did I?
it is illegal to enter this country without permission /visa (refer to illegal migration act 2023).

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 02/11/2025 10:43

StrongLikeMamma · 28/10/2025 20:52

It’s not illegal to seek asylum.

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I didn’t say it was illegal to claim asylum though, did I?
it is illegal to enter this country without permission /visa (refer to illegal migration act 2023).

notnorman · 01/11/2025 21:43

FenceBooksCycle · 30/10/2025 22:55

@MaturingCheeseball you miss the point. Did you consider that you were being kept in "5 star luxury" when you were sharing 4 to a room with total strangers with no privacy, no personal space or secure place for whatever belongings you had, no access to cooking facilities and barely adequate washing facilities. It's illegal for them to work to earn their living, so either they get kept alive at the taxpayers expense (and the hotel accommodation is basic, not luxurious) until their status can be determined, or they are expected to starve and die. The people who prefer the latter are disgusting. I wasn't asking that they get more or better treatment, just that the evil protesters stop complaining that we as a civilisation are treating fellow humans with humanity rather than killing them.

I’ve said before on here- my company works in hotels used by migrants. What you have said here is not true in my experience. Have you been in any of these hotels or are you just imagining this to be the case?
The hotels are given money to look after the men so they are actually given (for eg) new mattresses. They aren’t in camp beds 4 to a room. The rooms stay in their own figurations in the ‘upmarket’ hotel chain we work in. They have meals cooked for them that are spicy/currys.
The rooms are hygienic- they have to be. Remember the Bibby Stockholm thing? The bathroom en suites exist- the same as they did before! This is the same up and down the country.

ReginaPhalange1989 · 01/11/2025 09:19

Pigeonpoodle · 01/11/2025 06:35

@Wildgoat

i just don’t get how it keeps happening, tories stay in power so long everyone gets fed up, labour get in, they fuck the countries economy, do one term, then the tories come back in, start trying to fix the shit show, Labour don’t get back in for another decade, and history repeats itself. Every single time.

You seem to be living in a parallel universe. The last time Labour were in power, they were in for 3 terms and tbe economy was pretty good for the first two and a half terms (until the 2008 financial crisis). The last time Labour had one term like you’re suggesting was back in the 1970s.

I’m no Labour supporter, but your understanding of the UK’s political history is completely at odds with reality!

Another way to look at this...

The tories slowly destroy the economy over 10 years, while the media do everything they can to distract us from this fact. People get fed up of the state of the country so vote Labour in.

Labour are then handed a sh!t show of a budget to sort out. Everything is failing because the tories have failed to invest in the country for such a long time. Labour then fail to solve 10 years of underfunding in 6 months, while the media simultaneously slate everything they do, and push stories about how terrible a job Labour are doing... and suddenly everybody thinks that it is labours fault that the country is on its ar$e.

Why dont people see this? Why does nobody talk about the atrocious job the tories have done over the years? The lack of funding to our services, the hospitals that never got built, the month of liz truss, the billions of pounds wasted on pointless masks?

I'm not saying Labour are doing a fantastic job, but they've got a very difficult job, which will take years and years to sort out. It was not labours fault that there was a global recession in 2008. It is the tories fault that our economy is where it is today...

Sorry @pigeonpoodle I couldn't find @wildgoat Original post to quote!

Pigeonpoodle · 01/11/2025 06:35

@Wildgoat

i just don’t get how it keeps happening, tories stay in power so long everyone gets fed up, labour get in, they fuck the countries economy, do one term, then the tories come back in, start trying to fix the shit show, Labour don’t get back in for another decade, and history repeats itself. Every single time.

You seem to be living in a parallel universe. The last time Labour were in power, they were in for 3 terms and tbe economy was pretty good for the first two and a half terms (until the 2008 financial crisis). The last time Labour had one term like you’re suggesting was back in the 1970s.

I’m no Labour supporter, but your understanding of the UK’s political history is completely at odds with reality!

StrongLikeMamma · 01/11/2025 05:17

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Insanityisnotastrategy · 31/10/2025 12:04

suburburban · 31/10/2025 11:03

I couldn’t agree more

why is the government trying to bankrupt the UK with all this nonsense

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I think it's for a few reasons:

  • Their hands are tied
  • Ideology
  • Their deluded ideas about their voter base.
suburburban · 31/10/2025 11:03

Insanityisnotastrategy · 31/10/2025 09:52

I don't believe asylum seekers are being held in luxurious accommodation. Even if the hotels were previously quite decent, they will presumably be well over their previous capacity. I'm sure at least a proportion of people in them are in genuine need and have fled persecution.
What I also think is:

  • We are not in a good place either economically or socially at the moment. There is a sense (and a reality) of decline and increasing division.
  • The men in these hotels are statistically a much greater risk to public safety than the average man.
  • There is absolutely no world in which I would think the types of crime we are seeing are acceptable collateral damage for taking in large numbers of non-citizens, regardless of their backstory.
  • People routinely underestimate the differences between cultures and the results of that. They seem to do so no matter how frequent, predictable and obvious these results are. You can't argue with stupid, but the reality is these people are promoting and defending a situation which makes primarily working class people, at the sharp end, less safe and more disenfranchised, and then calling them racists and liars, which is despicable.
  • The government have a primary duty towards their own people, and that's all I have to say about that.
  • I'm not a Labour supporter at all, but the problem is not primarily of their making, and I do think they're genuinely trying to get to grips with it.

I couldn’t agree more

why is the government trying to bankrupt the UK with all this nonsense

MaturingCheeseball · 31/10/2025 10:22

At the hotel in The Barbican the staff including chefs were retained, and the asylum seekers there were eating steaks, wide range of expensive fruits etc etc.

They do not need cooking facilities when they get three meals a day. And don’t give me “cultural food preferences” - f**k that. If you are “fleeing for your life”, as we are repeatedly told, are you really going to kick up a fuss about the fare on offer?

Badbadbunny · 31/10/2025 10:14

FenceBooksCycle · 31/10/2025 10:08

You do realise that they won't have access to the pool and spa and that the double room you were going to share with your DH will be a lot less comfy when it contains 4 unrelated people on put-u-up beds, dormitory-style. They are not getting the lovely high quality bedding either. The only bit of "luxury" that will remain from.the experience you would have had is that the wallpaper won't be changed.

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It's still "luxury" compared to living in a tent! It'll have heating, toilets/shower, meals cooked for you etc.

CorneliaCupp · 31/10/2025 10:10

marshmallowmix · 31/10/2025 09:59

@CorneliaCupp yes I have actually as we had to ask them not to take a pxxx in our garden; we have a group living nearby and the are causing no end of mayhem.

What is next they break in to our home as happened to a woman in Canary Wharf a few months back.

Seriously I cannot get my head around this - why are you putting our own way of life and our safety at risk for a group of unvetted, unknown men it beggars belief.....is it a case of Stockholm Syndrome or something.

You keep defending them saying oh it is okay they mean no harm - we do not know that and what I've seen first hand it is the polar opposite they are shoplifting, anti social behaviour and unsavoury to put it mildly.

I won't reply to you any longer as I've seen your posts on this thread to others and it appears you are on a wind up so no point in engaging with you and we will never agree.

I'm not on the wind up, I am totally genuine.
If you have seen my previous point then you will know that I have advocated for the safety of women at all points.
The vast majority of asylum seekers are no threat to you or anyone. Some are, but not all.
That is why I object to your framing of all asylum seekers as dangerous, it's simply not true.
I can understand you being angry and afraid, I can't understand your prejudice against all asylum seekers.

FenceBooksCycle · 31/10/2025 10:08

LancashireButterPie · 31/10/2025 10:00

Last year DH and I had a weekend city break at a lovely 4* hotel cancelled as it has become an asylum seekers residence. It has a pool and spa and beautiful gardens.

I'm not complaining about this (I'm actually not against asylum) but please don't try and gaslight the public into believing that all asylum seekers are housed in 2* hovels.

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You do realise that they won't have access to the pool and spa and that the double room you were going to share with your DH will be a lot less comfy when it contains 4 unrelated people on put-u-up beds, dormitory-style. They are not getting the lovely high quality bedding either. The only bit of "luxury" that will remain from.the experience you would have had is that the wallpaper won't be changed.

LancashireButterPie · 31/10/2025 10:00

LadyKenya · 28/10/2025 12:36

Where did you get the idea that those hotels are 'cushy'?

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Last year DH and I had a weekend city break at a lovely 4* hotel cancelled as it has become an asylum seekers residence. It has a pool and spa and beautiful gardens.

I'm not complaining about this (I'm actually not against asylum) but please don't try and gaslight the public into believing that all asylum seekers are housed in 2* hovels.

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