Why do Labour not get it?

Oh well OP, once Reform get in they've promised to spend even more money on detention centres.

People want to see the migrants suffer. Maybe Reform can recoup some of the money by live streaming a kind of Big Brother of human misery?

Then listen up, Britain. Screw your head well and stop voting for Labour ever again. Tories will be just fine

It’s not just about the money.

obviously it is partly about the money.

but people are also concerned that asylum seekers from violent countries are being housed in their communities and because of the way it works you are getting large numbers in some small communities who frankly can’t really cope with them.

if asylum seekers are housed in separate areas it’ll reduce the community tension as there will be fewer protests etc in the middle of towns and villages.

I personally would be happy for it to cost more.

i live near a few military bases and frankly I think it’s a good idea. You can provide facilities on the sites - healthcare and suchlike - and there won’t be such a clash of cultures.

I actually think this is the the first sound idea they have had. However they need to stop spending and taxing, it’s labour of old. Tax and spend, tax and spend; always the same. No one in Labour should be saying irrelevant of cost, when quite frankly it’s just about public perception in the main.

i just don’t get how it keeps happening, tories stay in power so long everyone gets fed up, labour get in, they fuck the countries economy, do one term, then the tories come back in, start trying to fix the shit show, Labour don’t get back in for another decade, and history repeats itself. Every single time.

i think it’s game over for Labour, and the budget will be the final nail in the coffin, there will be a public outcry, they are already trying to prepare the public for what’s to come with the soft leaks to see reaction, income tax increase, mansion tax etc, and there will be no way back for them, no matter what they do over the next 3 years.

Starmer will throw reeves under the bus, to save his skin, as they don’t have anyone to take over from him, so even though he’s clearly wholly incapable and out of his depth , no one wants the poison chalice other than some real hard core lefties that the public would not accept, and none of them are any more capable.

To be honest, I’m not sure even starmer wants to be pm any more, he’s just waiting to get the fuck out of there and get a lucrative consulting role.

its a shit show of epic proportions, the issue is they fucked the economy so hard and so fast and now don’t know how to fix it, so everything they do makes it worse as they are utterly clueless.

But Labour thought the Bibby Stockholm was inhumane?

The main reason that young men go is the family reunification scheme. Only the man needs to be be granted asylum then their family can come over on the plane. Starmer announced that would end at conference, whether it will or not is another matter. Every asylum seeker in a hotel represents a number of people coming to the UK.

I thought the point of army barracks was so they could be securely contained. I assume they will be locked in there and not have minibuses laid on to deposit them at the nearest town to wander round at will all day.

And something for you to look forward to

Who do I think can stop the boats - not the Tories or Labour as they have failed so far. Possibly Reform will but that remains to be seen. At any rate Reform will most likely form the next govt so asylum seekers have it very much better now than they might in 3.5 years time. Something to ponder.

I don't think any government can stop the boats, they can reduce them by offering safe and legal routes.

Ofcourse I want the boats stopped, nobody should die trying to seek refuge

But as the boats aren't going to be stopped any time soon, I just want the asylum seekers treated as human beings. Apparently that is something posters on here don't agree with.

I haven't seen your reply, can you point me to it?

As I have answered all your questions and simply get more questions in return, let me ask you the same. Who do you think can stop the boats? Or do you not want them stopped?

Reform are going to have a landslide. The next election will be a one issue election. The nhs will be thrown under the bus. And god knows if Reform will actually be able to solve the problem or if they’ll just be full of hot air when in opposition like everyone else. Problem is by the time we find that out it’s too late. Will have Farage and a bunch of 19yos in charge for five years. God help us.

Lots of reasons. It's a very dangerous trip to make, culturally young men are valued over women, and so would be the ones to make the trip, many families can only afford for one person to make the trip, so prioritise their sons, more humanitarian routes tend to prioritise women and children, so young men have less choices ...

So you'll be happy for the barracks to be used then?

Do you shout at hotels?

Or more seriously, which party do you think can stop the boats and repair the broken asylum system?

Yes. I have never been happy funding asylum seekers’ hotel expenses.
Any other questions?

The barracks in my area is 20 minutes walk into a little seaside town

i mean there would be fuck all anyone could do but as others have said the problem moves to another town

and reform would win this seat, guaranteed

Because they think it sounds more brutal and therefore will deter more from coming. Or at least make them happier that migrants are being brutalised.

Reform's proposals for a network of detention centres are even more expensive. But apparently people like them.

Have you not seen some of these prestigious buildings? And free if charge with mesks provided.
Sound cushy to me.

The Inverness barracks is in the centre of town.

Did the taxpayer not pay for migrants under the Tories?

The asylum hotel contracts were awarded in 2019
The Rwanda Plan

Did you protest as much then?

Is this a serious question? How does the good old taxpayer that coughs up for migrants and everything else with Labour’s spend, spend, spend policies “opt out of paying tax”?

Are you opting out of paying tax?