Why do Labour not get it?

It is true, came into law in 2023. Not sure how it works in practice, as the figures you've stated are true as well!

I’m not sure it’s correct? On googling we still are processing claims answer -

Yes, the UK is still processing asylum applications

https://www.gov.uk/claim-asylum/decision#:~:text=Your%20application%20will%20be%20decided,you're%20currently%20being%20prosecuted

I don't think that is true? People arriving by small boats continue to be granted asylum.

Since 2018, 95% of the people arriving in the UK on a small boat have claimed asylum. Of the 159,180 small boat arrivals claiming asylum since 2018, around three-fifths (61% or 96,831) had received a substantive decision (as of 16 July 2025, when the data used in this release was taken). Of these, 61,706 were granted asylum or some other protection status, and 35,125 were refused.

I absolutely do. But since you will never believe me I can't see what else there is to be said.

I’m not sure you do, but this back and forward is detracting from the thread so I wish you good day. Sure you will want to have the last word but I won’t be responding.

I was responding to your dismissal of the posters opinion. I think I know what I meant.

If it wasn’t so pathetic and obvious before I even googled who GMIAU are. They are there to aid immigration the clue is in their name…immigration aid unit

I don't think you were supposed to look up who they actually are, @marshmallowmix (!!) but a tenner says they'll also be into providing crib sheets as to the best stories to tell

I didn't even get beyond the first page before the lies started: "No one would choose to leave their country – we have been forced to leave because of war or persecution. You should know that everyone who arrived in Britain to apply for asylum carries deep sadness inside and has been forced to risk their life"

"No one" and "everyone"? I don't think so ...

I assume they are. There are limited safe routes for Ukrainians etc, and some who will have come to the UK legally - on a student visa for example, and then claimed asylum, but I don't know for sure.

I think you are twisting words. You were responding to me so surely you were addressing me?

The Illegal Migration Act 2023 (which became law on 20 July 2023) established that asylum claims will be treated as inadmissible if the person arrived in the UK “irregularly” (e.g., by small boat) and is covered by the duty to remove.

Do you mean Labour are not processing asylum claims anymore?

Because people are desperate? Not the calculated connaiving individuals Reform would have you believe? Because not everyone is educated to the point of understanding the finer points of the Law in a country they don’t live in? Because we have obligations under an international law towards refugees and asylum seekers?

That is the law currently. If you arrive by small boat your claim will not be granted.

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To those saying why the barracks are a bad idea etc…. I wouldn’t want to live next to them either and I’m sure the majority of the population wouldn’t, however…. Currently thousands of people are feeling the effects of hundreds of men being put up in hotels up and down the country, hanging about in groups and particularly women and girls feeling intimidated. Two hotels where I live have been used, one for several years and of course it build resentment in the local community for several reasons.

I don’t see how this is any different to them being housed in barracks? At least with the barracks the money won’t be paid to private companies so it saves the tax payer.

@CorneliaCupp

Ah I think you were having a dig at me perhaps?

Well you have made an assumption and it is wrong …when you don’t agree with what someone is saying then make an assumption about that person is that how it goes now!

I have a family member who is a lawyer and I work with barristers and lawyers so you are talking nonsense by implying I get my information solely from the media if it is me you are having a pop at.

What I said does hold weight it is very well known that there are unscrupulous operators especially around the asylum system. Those that typically set themselves up next door to a takeaway in the less salubrious areas.

They can write letters ‘til the cows come home …can’t see anyone wanting 600 unknown men living close to them in barracks.

Genuine question, because it seems like a simple solution do there must be a reason why its not been done.

Why cant a law be implemented where if you arrive on a small boat you automatically become ineligible for asylum? Full stop, no ifs no buts, just no, back to France. Cant they change the system so people have to apply and be approved outside the UK? Then come here once approved? Would that appease the Reform lot?

Its a genuine question because i dont understand why this isnt the first thing they are doing if they want to stop the boats?

Incredibly outing but here's my opinion.

I live in Crowborough so this is going to affect me. As you can imagine the local Facebook groups are aflame with this news.

Helpfully, Reform have arranged for a town
meeting regarding this decision tomorrow evening. I'm sure that will go well.

The barracks are located about a 30
min walk from town. The report says there will be 30-90 migrants arriving daily and there will be 600 on site by early next year. They claim the barracks are to be only used for a year. Yeah right.

Where we are situated there is nothing nearby. Literally nothing for anyone to do unless you can drive, the FB groups are full of reports of anti social behaviour by teens. Transport links are very poor and there are weekly problems with the trains being cancelled.

I read one report yesterday that claimed the migrants will have a GP on site, and they will be free to come and go.

Yes I am now more concerned about my 16 yr old daughter walking to and from 6th form.

No I didn't. I said that the opinion of someone who works with immigration lawyers holds more weight than that of someone who gets their information from the media. I didn't mention you, nor was I thinking of you.

Inverness and the surrounding area relies heavily on tourism. Can't see this barracks nonsense making it an attractive proposition for holidaymakers.

Everyone will have different experiences. Ik mine is different to many parts of the country, I’m in London.

What seems to be a consensus is that no one would say yes to barracks nearby, which is a problem for Labour.

A single day if crossings could fill a barracks, what then? We will see more problems as more areas say no.

You said I got my information from the media.

I live in London NOW. I am from the Midlands and studied up North.

To repeat what you said was nonsense as you spoke in absolutes. Just as you say my experience is not true for everybody, similarly your experience is not true for everybody.

Which aspects of diversity do you advocate for? FGM? Forced marriages? Honour based violence?

Oh I just noticed this. My family is incredible diverse given how much us are in interracial partnerships / marriage. At the next family gathering I should announce that we now need to advocate for FGM, forced marriage and honour based violence.

Those are the diversity roles.

You live in London. Totally different dynamic to the rest of the country. I live in a city in the North, where people from different communities absolutely do not integrate. In fact, where I live, it’s all about post codes. Someone will ask what your post code is, and the post code divulges the racial mix of who lives there - no-one steps out of their ‘bubble’, and no other community will move into that ‘bubble’. No intergration at all. I won’t describe your opinion as ‘nonsense’ because whilst I lived in London many years ago, I’ve no idea if people there live altogether in harmony. Just like you probably have no idea of what goes on in other parts of the UK

Neither did I claim to.